hello everyone. i was woundering if anyone knew if their was a multiplier unlocked socket 2011 xeon (es is fine) and any motherboard that would be capable of changine the multiplier. curently i run a evga srx mobo with dual e5-2670s and a TINY fsb overclock at 3.39 if i remember right.
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Nope. Intel would absolutely screw it's future revenue by allowing people to future-proof that well. Not to mention it would cannibalise their i7 sales, and they make a TON of profit on i7s per unit.
i know their are no retail cpus that will work for that exact reason but i was woundering if their were any spacific stepings of es cpus that were stable and unlocked. would their be any mobos that can adjust the cpu fsb and the rest of the components fsb independently?
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I can tell you that mine (QFGH) is not unlocked. Most ES samples are locked nowadays. However I know Skylake is more BCLK friendly, we may see overclocking Xeons again in late 2017.
neither are mine. however i remember hearing somthing abit ago that a certain es 2670 was unlocked (i think i read it on this fourm first) however i dont remember any details about that cpu. and i would be excited for overclocking xeons again westmere was great but now too old to be practical. it would be nice if intel made the xeon e7 series unlocked. it wouldnt dystroy their market shares due to the price of them and very few people would run them outside of the server market
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Xeon E7s already carry a pretty heavy cost... and those are the absolute top-binned silicon, so I doubt Intel would ever slap a feature on them to drain their numbers even more.
i dont think it would really drain their numbers. a single user with enough money to get one couldnt compete with a datacenter buying many of them. and i would love to see what intels absalute top-binned silicon could do. sadily thats all just a hypithetical
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Well, the whole point f an unlocked E7 would be that you can run eight of them on a single board. Money wasted if you use them otherwise.
And there are a LOT of rich kids out there who simply buy the thing with the highest pricetag with dad's platinum card. Selling them is not the issue.
i cant imagine many people are chosing xeon e7s for their 10k price tag. and i still have never seen a 8 socket system other than sparc/power rigs. about half of the e7's only support quad cpu configs. do you happen to know if ibm power cpus are unlocked?
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The only server-grade chips that are overclock friendly that I know of are the quad-socket opterons. A couple of guys on this forum managed to write a new Supermicro BIOS that allows FSB Overclocking on few SM 4C boards. as for IBM POWER, I'm not sure.
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When you find this magical beast, let us know the model number.
Its not likely to exist, the folding team have used just about every e5 v1 and most v2 ES chip there is, if they had found on people would know about it. As kazeo said, the only server chips currently overclockable are the quad socket opteron's, for which you need a supermicro board and a shit ton of power and cooling. I believe the record was 3.8ghz and stable was 3.5ghz
ok thank you i guess i will have to wait and hope their are xeons or amd cpus in the future that can be overclocked in one way or another because the 100mhz overclock i have now dosnt cut it
AFAIK, current power systems are locked down tight clock wise. There aren't any real third party motherboard or cpu module makers for the platform and IBM keeps the enterprise platforms tightly controlled hardware wise. But they also have a more advanced turbo boost like feature that can reallocated chunks of the module's power and heat allowances to individual cores to allow them to clock higher when needed.
ah ok thanks for thst info
I found some new information about the current offerrings.
POWER8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"
POWER8 also contains a so-called on-chip controller (OCC), which is a power and thermal management microcontroller based on a PowerPC 405 processor. It has two general-purpose offload engines (GPEs) and 512 KB of embedded static RAM (SRAM), together with the possibility to access the main memory directly, while running an open-source firmware. OCC manages POWER8's operating frequency, voltage, memory bandwidth, and thermal control for both the processor and memory; it can regulate voltages through 1,764 integrated voltage regulators (IVRs) on the fly. Also, the OCC can be programmed to overclock the POWER8 processor, or to lower its power consumption by reducing the operating frequency (which is similar to the configurable TDP found in some of the Intel and AMD processors).[10][11][12][13]
POWER8 comes in 4-, 6-, 8-, 10- and 12-core variants;[14][15] each version is fabricated in a 22 nm silicon on insulator (SOI) process using 15 metal layers. The 12-core version consists of 4.2 billion transistors[16] and is 650 mm2 large while the 6-core version is only 362 mm2 large."
That information wasn't in the sales materials I was familiar with but it's peaked my interest now. IBM seem to have opened up a lot of the POWER stuff compared to how it use to be. I'm glad I turned out to be wrong in this case at least
POWER8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"
POWER8 also contains a so-called on-chip controller (OCC), which is a power and thermal management microcontroller based on a PowerPC 405 processor. It has two general-purpose offload engines (GPEs) and 512 KB of embedded static RAM (SRAM), together with the possibility to access the main memory directly, while running an open-source firmware. OCC manages POWER8's operating frequency, voltage, memory bandwidth, and thermal control for both the processor and memory; it can regulate voltages through 1,764 integrated voltage regulators (IVRs) on the fly. Also, the OCC can be programmed to overclock the POWER8 processor, or to lower its power consumption by reducing the operating frequency (which is similar to the configurable TDP found in some of the Intel and AMD processors).[10][11][12][13]
POWER8 comes in 4-, 6-, 8-, 10- and 12-core variants;[14][15] each version is fabricated in a 22 nm silicon on insulator (SOI) process using 15 metal layers. The 12-core version consists of 4.2 billion transistors[16] and is 650 mm2 large while the 6-core version is only 362 mm2 large."
That information wasn't in the sales materials I was familiar with but it's peaked my interest now. IBM seem to have opened up a lot of the POWER stuff compared to how it use to be. I'm glad I turned out to be wrong in this case at least
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I found some new information about the current offerrings.
POWER8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"
POWER8 also contains a so-called on-chip controller (OCC), which is a power and thermal management microcontroller based on a PowerPC 405 processor. It has two general-purpose offload engines (GPEs) and 512 KB of embedded static RAM (SRAM), together with the possibility to access the main memory directly, while running an open-source firmware. OCC manages POWER8's operating frequency, voltage, memory bandwidth, and thermal control for both the processor and memory; it can regulate voltages through 1,764 integrated voltage regulators (IVRs) on the fly. Also, the OCC can be programmed to overclock the POWER8 processor, or to lower its power consumption by reducing the operating frequency (which is similar to the configurable TDP found in some of the Intel and AMD processors).[10][11][12][13]
POWER8 comes in 4-, 6-, 8-, 10- and 12-core variants;[14][15] each version is fabricated in a 22 nm silicon on insulator (SOI) process using 15 metal layers. The 12-core version consists of 4.2 billion transistors[16] and is 650 mm2 large while the 6-core version is only 362 mm2 large."
That information wasn't in the sales materials I was familiar with but it's peaked my interest now. IBM seem to have opened up a lot of the POWER stuff compared to how it use to be. I'm glad I turned out to be wrong in this case at least
damit... now i really want one. do you know if it would be the same for power 7 rigs or where to buy a power 8 rig under 5k
Home - OpenPOWER will have better information than I do. But from what I was reading last night, IBM have opened up the older POWER systems as well now. I believe POWER7 lacks the same control capabilities over clocks and power use that POWER8 has, but less refined control should be possible with customized firmware.
What I did find that got me excited a bit was this:
Raptor Engineering::Talos™ Secure Workstation
An ATX format POWER8 motherboard
"Why Talos™?
Security-minded individuals and corporations can own a Talos™ Secure Workstation mainboard, complete with an entry-level 8-core 130W POWER8 CPU, heatsink / fan assembly, and ATX I/O shield, for around $3,700 USD."
Think that fits under your budget. Hopefully it makes it to market. Otherwise, it gets very pricey trying to kit out a workstation.
What I did find that got me excited a bit was this:
Raptor Engineering::Talos™ Secure Workstation
An ATX format POWER8 motherboard
"Why Talos™?
Security-minded individuals and corporations can own a Talos™ Secure Workstation mainboard, complete with an entry-level 8-core 130W POWER8 CPU, heatsink / fan assembly, and ATX I/O shield, for around $3,700 USD."
Think that fits under your budget. Hopefully it makes it to market. Otherwise, it gets very pricey trying to kit out a workstation.