X800Pro on 2600+

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like the title says ive got a 2600+ and im looking to upgrade from my OCd 9600XT to an X800Pro. VIVO or not is unimportant because im too much of a newb to know how to flash one and do it right :( so im just not going to go down that route. my question is with such a slow processor would it be wise to get a new card? ive made threads and posts like this before but they've always gotten answers like 'might as well get a new cpu/mobo' or 'get a different card' etc. im not going to get an nvidia and im not going to get a new CPU right now...thisll be my last AGP 8X card and then ill get a PCIe AMD 64 mobo/cpu in a year or so when they are cheaper. id like to be able to play CSS at 1680x1050, and also WoW because the screen im planning on getting (dell 2005FPW) has that as its native res. do you guys think it would be possible to play (CSS and WoW/FT) with high iq and maybe 2x aa and 4x af @ that res on this cpu/graphics board combo? thanks.
 
I'd love to know about this myself, as I'm in the exact same boat...how much is my processor going to hold me back if I get a x800Pro?
 
Take a look: click here

There's no doubt that XP CPUs will bottleneck preformance substancially. However, you still probably should notice a considerable boost in performance with an X800. I mean take a look at the difference in preformance between a 9600XT and an X800pro in Doom 3 on an AthlonXP 3200: click here
9600XT=1024x768@Medium IQ→ 35.4FPS
X800pro=1280x1024@High IQ→ 51.7FPS

Also, don't forget that overclocking your cpu is always an option if you find that it's bottlenecking too badly.

Personally, I'm also considering upgrading to an X800pro as soon as they come down in price (with my stock 3000+).
 
im not really that concerned about frames...id just like to get a constant 60-70 in CSS and virtually anything over 40 is perfectly fine in WoW so theres no doubt that the card can do it; its just whether or not my cpu can keep up. it seems as though the bottlenecking is occuring mostly at lower res with newer games. if i play it at a higher res like 1680x1050 would it not bottleneck as much because of more strian on the GPU? then again with cpu heavy maps in CSS that probably wont show much gains to begin with.
 
It can't, even with my system in the sig, it doesn't. I play CS:S and get dips to around 30 FSP in about a 16-18 player games. It's not all that bad, but it's nothign special. I know it's the CPU crapping out. That's with all the settings maxed in the game and at 1152x864 with 2xaa and 8x performance AF.
 
bboynitrous said:
It can't, even with my system in the sig, it doesn't. I play CS:S and get dips to around 30 FSP in about a 16-18 player games. It's not all that bad, but it's nothign special. I know it's the CPU crapping out. That's with all the settings maxed in the game and at 1152x864 with 2xaa and 8x performance AF.
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hmm. thanks for the info. if you turn off aa and put af back to trilinear how much (if any) performance gains are there for you? im just a casual CSS player...dips to 30-40fps territory are fine for me. its just that id like to get maybe 50-60 frames average on CSS so that its playabe.
 
There is almost no gains in half life 2. I tested it out in Ravenholm, there was an area with fire that dropped my framerate to about 20fps, turned off AA, lowered the res to 1024x768, no AF, the framerate only went up about 2-3fps.. I knew imnediatly it was my CPU. That was really the only place where it really trashed my system. Just one little area though. The rest of the game so far has ran pretty good.

I really want to upgrade to either an athlon xp 2600+ mobile and shoot for 2.6GHz, or an athlon 64 3000+ and shoot for 2.3ish. I'm sure that would boost up the framerates and for real cheap too. :). If you have any more questions man, just let me know.
 
i have a amd mobile 2600+ with a thermalright slk900a, running at 2.5, idle at 39 cel.
i have a X800Pro from Sapphire, wonder what frames i will get on cs:s :confused:
 
bboynitrous said:
There is almost no gains in half life 2. I tested it out in Ravenholm, there was an area with fire that dropped my framerate to about 20fps, turned off AA, lowered the res to 1024x768, no AF, the framerate only went up about 2-3fps.. I knew imnediatly it was my CPU. That was really the only place where it really trashed my system. Just one little area though. The rest of the game so far has ran pretty good.

I really want to upgrade to either an athlon xp 2600+ mobile and shoot for 2.6GHz, or an athlon 64 3000+ and shoot for 2.3ish. I'm sure that would boost up the framerates and for real cheap too. :). If you have any more questions man, just let me know.
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im curious, is that a unlocked 2600+ tbred b or a 2600+ barton you have there? if you have a barton i wonder how much faster 2.6ghz would be compared to your 2.22 cause im considering buying a 6800 from a friend.
 
GVX said:
Take a look: click here

There's no doubt that XP CPUs will bottleneck preformance substancially. However, you still probably should notice a considerable boost in performance with an X800. I mean take a look at the difference in preformance between a 9600XT and an X800pro in Doom 3 on an AthlonXP 3200: click here
9600XT=1024x768@Medium IQ→ 35.4FPS
X800pro=1280x1024@High IQ→ 51.7FPS

Also, don't forget that overclocking your cpu is always an option if you find that it's bottlenecking too badly.

Personally, I'm also considering upgrading to an X800pro as soon as they come down in price (with my stock 3000+).
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maybe im n00b, but i dont see how ALL axp cpus would bottleneck performance substantially. In the doom3 cpu comparison link you posted it shows the 3200+ axp (2.2ghz) near the middle. from what i see from the graph it would prove otherwise, the axp would not bottleneck performance if clock speeds were scaled higher. if a 2.2ghz axp would be near the middle of the graphs i wonder how a 2.7ghz axp would do. interesting test results, i think i will be buying the 6800 =D
 
heero884 said:
im curious, is that a unlocked 2600+ tbred b or a 2600+ barton you have there? if you have a barton i wonder how much faster 2.6ghz would be compared to your 2.22 cause im considering buying a 6800 from a friend.
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It doesn't matter either way. The barton is hardly faster than the t-bred's clock per clock anyway. I've clocked it up to 2.35GHz, and ran benchmarks. It's stable but it gets too warm sometimes so I clock it back down.Even at 2.6GHz, I think you'd see some gains, but not too huge. I'm going Athlon64 for my next upgrade. I do, however, have a t-bred b core. :)
 
bboynitrous said:
It doesn't matter either way.
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so is it a Tbred B or a Barton?

We would like to know. If you have access to both can you post benchmarks?

THis is a good thread. I'm considering getting a X800Pro also and I have a mobile Barton
 
My cpu definetly holds my card back. I mean, it is still fast, but my comp does have fps dips into 30 in some games.
 
I run 1152x864 for HL2/CS:S. I run almost all my other games at 1280x960 with 2xAA and 8XAF to make sure my framerate is always high enough.
 
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