Your DVDs are not worth much. I also have no desire to watch DVD quality video unless it is the only way available.Actually there's an application that can skip past all of the DVD FBI warnings. And with DVD I have the advantage that I can resell it when I'm done watching it.
Your DVDs are not worth much. I also have no desire to watch DVD quality video unless it is the only way available.
I think it's pretty awesome that a thread about 5.25" drive bays is this long in 2022. I mean, what am I supposed to do, put my Midiland S2/4100 control module on my desk like some sort of savage?
There is no way in fuck I'm going to use a computer that I can't burn discs with or watch blurays. What the fuck is going on?
You are in the minority.
Most people stopped using optical drives before 2010.
Unless you are an extremely high value niche, (in orther words, yu'll pay a lot of money for what you want) the companies are going to focus on what the majority wants. These days that is compact cases they can easily stand on top of their desks with big windows so they can show off all the RGB LED lights and components inside the cases. Drive bays - both internal and external - do nothing but get in the way if all you are ever going to do is install a Mini-ITX motherboard with a single m.2 drive.
I still have a USB optical drive, in case I need to plug it in to rip a mobie or something like that, but I use it less and less frequently as time goes on. Right now it is in a box in my closet in my office. I'm not even sure which one. I just haven't used it in a while.
My main workstation - although huge - doesn't have any external bays, and I drilled out th erivets to remove the internal bays as I wanted to fit more water cooling equipment. It relies entirely on m.2 for storage (though being a Threadripper it has lots of PCIe lanes, and thus the ability to use lots of m.2 drives)
I really only use external drive bays on my testbench machine anymore. Not for optical drives, but for Icy-Dock style 2.5" and 3.5" drive docks so I can easily image drives, test drives, etc.
All of us here are in a minority.
Most folks just use their smartphones or laptops for their conputing. Not overkill desktop towers.
Demand full commitment from employees: In a company-wide announcement in 2012, co-founder Henry Lu informed staff that anyone who wasn't fully committed to MSI's new direction should leave the company. It was a bold move, but an important one. Changing gears so dramatically required employees to adapt quickly. Everyone needed be committed to the company's future success.
Over the next two years, some 400 people left MSI.
~gets ready to argue...~That is true, but less so than it used to be.
The "gaming pc" market has absolutely exploded over the last 5-10 years.
The "build your own workstation/non-gaming desktop" market is mostly dead, which is a crying shame. Most people avoid using computers all together these days, and if they have to use as thin as possible laptops. Those who need capable workstations are usually professionals and typically buy ready-made OEM machines.
I remember that article. It was one of the best damned things they ever did.The build your own market is bigger now than it has been at any time since the mid 90's, but it is entirely focused on ADHD gamer kiddies and their bright shining lights.
In 2017 when I was doing news on the [H] main page, I posted a news article which still stands out to me. It was about MSI and how the CEO turned the company around by re-focusing on gaming. This is one of the few pages that The Internet Archive never archived from the [H], so I can't find the article now. I think it was from Business Insider, but I am not sure. Some people quoted it in the forum discussion thread, so you get the gist:
~gets ready to argue again, looks at the dedicated, glowy-as-shit gaming-only pc next to him~...Essentially, the CEO said, "we are now a gaming company and if you don't like it, there's the door" and it has worked out fantastically for MSI.
This is where the industry is now. 99.9% of those who build their own PC's do so for gaming purposes only. Heck, most of th ekids these days I've spoken to use those computers only for games. They won't even log in to facebook in a web browser on their "gaming pc" preferring to take a picture of their screen and post it, rather than a real screenshot for that reason.
Essentially they have built (or in many cases, had someone build for them) a racy looking general purpose computing platform that they proceed to use as if it were just some sort of high end Xbox.
Gaming for me was first - but then I got into the rest and wanted it to do them all. I switched to building a dedicated workstation + dedicated gaming machine because my workstation stuff sometimes... stomped on gaming stuff (first it was things like virtual pc / ISO tools pissing off DRM, then dual boot fuck ups, then... well, you get the picture). Now? Yeah, I could not do that, but it lets me play with more hardware this wayIt's kind of sad, but those of us who know the value of general purpose computing and like to build our own machines are a dying breed and a tiny fraction of the market today.
I don't know about everyone else, but I got into building computers because I liked computers. I wanted the fastest most badass machine there was, that I could do everything on. Render, code, work, etc. Gaming was almost an afterthought. I played games because I had a badass PC, not the other way around.
The market now is so completely different, and honestly I don't like it.
Even those who build their own machines are barely customizing them anymore. They just buy motherboards with a combination of everything they need on board and just add a GPU. Where is the fun in that? I miss the days when you just had a basic motherboard with a bunch of expansion slots and you decided what you wanted in those slots. If you didn't want a hard drive controller, you didn't add a hard drive controller.
It's why we have shit like this:
This Apple ad made my blood boil when it ran.
This STILL baffles the shit out of me. Like, how?!? How do you find anything?!?And news articles like this:
File not found: A generation that grew up with Google is forcing professors to rethink their lesson plans
This is not the future I was promised. I hate everything about it. I feel like I am having everything I like and value taken away from me, because the dumb lowest common denominator masses can't be bothered with it, and products are only made for the dumb lowest common denominator masses.
Gaming for me was first - but then I got into the rest and wanted it to do them all. I switched to building a dedicated workstation + dedicated gaming machine because my workstation stuff sometimes... stomped on gaming stuff (first it was things like virtual pc / ISO tools pissing off DRM, then dual boot fuck ups, then... well, you get the picture). Now? Yeah, I could not do that, but it lets me play with more hardware this way
Its impressive that this thread died in 2020, got necro'd in 2021 and 2022, and the OP actually showed up and posted in it again recently. Its also impressive there are as many posts
in 2022 as there were in 2020.
I still have a pair of DVD burners in my rig. I still use them to watch DVDs and burn discs for my old computers.
Actually there's an application that can skip past all of the DVD FBI warnings. And with DVD I have the advantage that I can resell it when I'm done watching it.
Yep. I'm PRAYING for Zen4 TR not being insane, and Sapphire Rapids being the same. The rumblings I hear say that SR may have more of a traditional HEDT option too... so I'm hoping.For decades now I've been hellbent on building a no compromises "one machine that is best at everything" but over time I am coming to the same conclusion as you. It kind of annoys me, but the way the market is segmented I often either have to choose between best per core performance or more PICe lanes and expansion and it annoys the hell out of me. AMD's choice to not update the Threadripper (non-Pro version) after Zen 2 was probably the nail in the coffin for this approach for me.
I seriously thought about this for a long time - even have the same case, it's what my Linux / secure workstation is in (X299). In hindsight... that might have been smarter. Cheaper for sure than the balls-to-the-wall ATX build I did, I suspect, as the gaming box - but would it have been as much fun? Hard to say.I might just pick up a Mini-ITX motherboard and install it in the secondary motherboard slot in my Corsair 1000D, and stick my big GPU in the mini-ITX board as a dedicated games machine. Since it's only for gaming I could probably get away with a cheap-ish mid-range Ryzen 5 or Core-i5 machine with 6C/12T, since I don't do stuff in the background and never stream.
Monitors with multiple inputs? Still won't fix KB/M though... hmm.THen I could just get a mid to low end Quadro or Radeon Pro and stick it in my Threadripper board and use it for work and day to day computer stuff.
I'd need to pick up some sort of KVM solution for this though.
in 2022 that shit is unwatchable. It was unwatchable over a decade ago.
I have a box full of DVD's from the 90's and early 2000's that I don't know what to do with.
They aren't worth enough money to make it worth my time to try to sell them, but at the same time it feels wrong to just throw them out. Would people even take them if I gave them away for free?
I guess I'll just have them in case in 2057 I feel like watching a copy of The Abyss (Directors Cut or Special Edition or some nonsense like that) in 480p if I can even find a DVD player.
Still his statement is correct. 480p and 480i still look ass.Nope. All standard video DVDs are interlaced, while 480p is progressive. Some may appear to be progressive, but this is only due to the magic of reverse telecining or de-interlacing that your DVD player and or software may be doing you for automatically.
Monitors with multiple inputs? Still won't fix KB/M though... hmm.
There are monitors that have usb hubs that will switch the onboard usb ports to the input you have selected. My Dell U2723QE does it, PC plugged into the Displayport with the USB input mapped to it and than the USB-C goes to the SteamDeck so I can use a keyboard and mouse with it on the screen when messing around with stuff.
Do they pull a USB signal via DisplayPort or HDMI? I didn't realize that was a thing.
All of myonitors, even newer ones, have a basic USB A to USB B uplink cable to the built in USB hub, and I've never seen one with more than one input.
You use a usb uplink and map it to either the HDMI or DisplayPort input so it's active when the one it's mapped to is active. On the USB-C side, everything is done through the single USB-C cable since it can carry everything. Mainly for mobile devices like a laptop or SteamDeck in my case.
Ah, I've never tried using USB for a display.
Maybe it works well, but the concept of using something like USB for a high bandwidth device like a display just feels wrong to me.
Matrix orbital 7” display has HDMI and USB
Main purpose is sensor panel display
Here is a example of a sensor panel you can create.
It’s like running a second monitor use windows to setup and AIDA64That's pretty cool.
I presume you have to run Windows to get the display output though?
I'd do something like this if I could get it to be OS independent, but if it depends on OS for display output, then I'd just have to pass. I dual (and some cases even triple) boot and am constantly going back and forth.
My servers are all headless. I run them in Linux and don't even have the window managers or display servers installed, just console, in order for them to be less resource hungry (and to expose fewer potential vulnerabilities)