Fuck yea. Went 3900x to x3d, Arma loves itI was blown away by the performance of the 5800X3D. Moving from my 5900X to my 5800X3D, even despite losing 4 cores, was a bigger upgrade than when I moved from a 3900X to a 5900X a year or two earlier. All of the games that I play make very effective use of the cache. My 5800X3D will probably hold me over until Zen 5 but when I upgrade it's definitely going to be another CPU with a lot of cache.
This. The idea of a) 16 core X3D + b) any time soon, seems like fantasyland. Yields would likely be the worst, price would therefore have to be very high, and it would potentially cannibalize non X3D sales or at least cast a big shadow over it. Unclear what AMD's business play or upside really could be here.We waited quite a while for the x3d. I don’t expect it to drop so quickly after announcement. Component sales are down, I imagine they will want to sell some existing inventory for a bit.
Newegg has more B650 boards from 149-220 than a few weeks ago. Not sure if any are that great. The Gigabyte Aorus Elite mATX and ATX boards look decent enough though and are 199 and 219.Are there any good am5 boards less than $200?
This. The idea of a) 16 core X3D + b) any time soon, seems like fantasyland. Yields would likely be the worst, price would therefore have to be very high, and it would potentially cannibalize non X3D sales or at least cast a big shadow over it. Unclear what AMD's business play or upside really could be here.
It seems like this is definitely a thing. Threads all over have people saying that they will delay purchase until the x3D chips are announced at least with an availability date or are actually available. Realistically if you have a decent set up now no reason to be in a hurry. DDR5 and AM5 boards will get cheaper over time to a point and so on.Conversely, it seems there are many waiting for X3D that could be limiting current sales.
And now people are back to "leaking" or rumor spreading that the 7950X3D is back on after all.
i wonder how much of a gaming performance increase the various X3D chips will have. Also wonder if the price/performance curve will be linear
In theory? Each CCD has its own top-mounted hat of cache?
Yeah, that would be the most straight-forward way to do it. Simply double everything up. But that is a lot of extra silicon on a TSMC process that is already in high-demand ($$$). And it would still do nothing to address the latency penalty of communicating between separate CCDs.
I've been on the fence too, planning to get asus b650e-i strix as the previous strix I had (b660i) has great memory overclocking capabilities.I made the jump. I figured AMD will support the socket for a few generations so I'll get in early and upgrade again when the socket is near the end of support. I purposely bought the more expensive motherboard "X670E" as well for that reason thinking Asus will have good bios support. My 7700x is a huge step up from my 6700k.
I've been pretty stalwart on saying i wouldn't upgrade this generation until Microcenter started throwing gobs of DDR-5 6000 out the window for free + substantial discounts for the new chips and motherboards. However, I may go this weekend and drop about 650 bucks and walk away with a Gigabyte X670 Aorus Elite AX which has surprisingly good reviews (but no PCIE 5.0 slot), a 7700X and 32 Gigs of DDR5-6000... that's 644 after taxes. I looked at intel 12 and 13th gen stuff but the dead platform is what's really stopping me there. AMD will (in theory) support this platform for the next 3-4 years.Im waiting for the 7000 x3d but im starting to spec the system now. My use case is office work and gaming, that's it. Any particular reason that I shouldn't get a 'GIGABYTE B650M AORUS Elite AX'? It has built in wifi, bluetooth, 2 nvme slots though only 1 is pci 5. Only $200 on Amazon too. A few reviews complain that the x16 port (gpu port) is only PCI 4.0 and not PCI 5.0, but I saw tech powers ups review of PCI-E scaling on the 4090, and the difference between 3.0 and 4.0 was pretty small.
They do make 5.0 boards, but damn they aint cheap
On a related note, whats a good ddr 5 ram to use? I remember reading that the sweet spot for am5 was DDR-6000, so thats what I want to aim for. 16gb, non-rgb, not going to be use for overclocking the cpu, just gaming.