The 32 inch 4k IPS 144hz's...(Update - this party is started) (wait for it...)

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I have severe doubts about all these FALD panels being anywhere close to a good bang for buck type of product.
Either it's expensive but good (e.g no major issues) or reasonably priced with acceptable caveats. So far the closest to that is IMO the Samsung Neo G7 where it's not the most expensive thing out there but has some caveats (VA panel things, curve etc).
 

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LG needs to make an FALD with the their GQ950 panel and polarizer. From what I saw I think it would be super effective.
 

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People are also NOT buying it because it's over 3400 euros in my country while not being top tier in every possible area.

That's why I brought up the cost factor. I'm happy to pay more for something I consider truly good but at that high price, it better be the best damn everything. Similarly I'm not jumping to buy e.g a 2000 euro Apple Studio Display just for 5K resolution when it performs only marginally better than my 400e Samsung while being 60 Hz only with slow response times.

We live in weird times where either above 4K res or better HDR expontentially increases the cost for displays. If HDR didn't exist, we would all probably be happy with things like the Gigabyte M32U.
You don't pay for a Ferrari to be good at corners. The technology has its limits. All you can do is wait but for how long.
 

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I just moved to China and don't have a monitor. I'm currently running a laptop with a 3080 and plan to build a desktop around Christmas. Should I grab a M32U now or is something better expected to release in the next few months?
 

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LG needs to make an FALD with the their GQ950 panel and polarizer. From what I saw I think it would be super effective.
Then LG needs the LED supply from Ennostar. They made it with the 12.9 inch iPad Pro with 10,000 Mini-LEDs at 20kHz.
The display takes up 60% of the iPad's entire component cost.
 

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Then LG needs the LED supply from Ennostar. They made it with the 12.9 inch iPad Pro with 10,000 Mini-LEDs at 20kHz.
The display takes up 60% of the iPad's entire component cost.
Or sell the panel to Asus and let them use it in the PG32UQXE instead.
 

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AU Optronics:
  • 32″ 4K with 160Hz and 576 zones – We had a bit of information about the M320QAN02.8 in our last update, originally expected to go in to production in Q3 2021 but slipped a bit to May 2022. This should now be in production we believe. This is a 32″ sized IPS panel with 3840 x 2160 4K resolution, 160Hz refresh rate, 1000 nit peak brightness, 98% DCI-P3 / 99% Adobe RGB colour gamut (thanks to Quantum Dot coating) and a 3-side borderless design. It has 576 dimming zones. This is one of the "AmLED" panels, read more here.
This is currently being used by Acer X32 FP, which has been released in Asia,
 

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Or sell the panel to Asus and let them use it in the PG32UQXE instead.
It has less to do with the panel. AUO panel is good enough. PG32UQXE is still a mid-tier because of the limited LEDs.
The tunning of the firmware should make it similar to Sony M9. But I doubt once ASUS support HDMI 2.1, which Nvidia doesn't for a reason, there will be more issues on performance.
HDMI 2.1 should've never been supported in the first place when the current G-sync is not capable of doing it.
 

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It has less to do with the panel. AUO panel is good enough. PG32UQXE is still a mid-tier because of the limited LEDs.
The tunning of the firmware should make it similar to Sony M9. But I doubt once ASUS support HDMI 2.1, which Nvidia doesn't for a reason, there will be more issues on performance.
HDMI 2.1 should've never been supported in the first place when the current G-sync is not capable of doing it.
The motion performance is light-years between those two panels, which is the achilles heel of the PG32UQX. If they took the better panel and the polarizer, there would be less bloom and top shelf motion.
 

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The motion performance is light-years between those two panels, which is the achilles heel of the PG32UQX. If they took the better panel and the polarizer, there would be less bloom and top shelf motion.
What is a better panel if it is barely capable of DCI-P3 instead of displaying Adobe? The color is simply not enough.
And somehow suddenly the 5ms response time become light-years ahead compared to 6-7ms?
 

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What is a better panel if it is barely capable of DCI-P3 instead of displaying Adobe? The color is simply not enough.
And somehow suddenly the 5ms response time become light-years ahead compared to 6-7ms?
Where are you getting 6-7ms? The PG32UQX has an average of 19ms at the most usable setting, with a worst of 23ms and only 70% compliance to the 144hz window.

I have seen both first hand there is a massive difference to the eye, the Asus either smears or has really bad overshoot.
 

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Where are you getting 6-7ms? The PG32UQX has an average of 19ms at the most usable setting, with a worst of 23ms and only 70% compliance to the 144hz window.

I have seen both first hand there is a massive difference to the eye, the Asus either smears or has really bad overshoot.
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Funny it is the exactly the same thing you posted before. Suddenly 5ms is light-years ahead.

It doesn't have smearing. You talk like you don't have it.
 

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Funny it is the exactly the same thing you posted before. Suddenly 5ms is light-years ahead.

It doesn't have smearing. You talk like you don't have it.

That's the average response under TFT's old test method. The worst of the transitions are still outside the 144hz window. Here is the full review, take a look at the Gamma Corrected results.
There is also HUB's review, which is even more accurate. "The main noticeable artifact here are those slow fall times, which presents itself as bright smearing in the UFO test. We don't get a nice clear image in this mode"

More to the point though: If you're looking at that pic compared to the other three and you don't see the pink smearing on the left side of the UFO, I don't really know where we can go from there.

I don't have it, I have used it in the store for about 20 min with my laptop. In the last 3 years I have had and returned: PG35VQ, 32GK850G, AW3423DW, FI32U, XG279QAM, 32GQ950. I am currently using a PB328Q as my center. That's enough reference to be able to compare fairly.
 

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That's the average response under TFT's old test method. The worst of the transitions are still outside the 144hz window. Here is the full review, take a look at the Gamma Corrected results.
There is also HUB's review, which is even more accurate. "The main noticeable artifact here are those slow fall times, which presents itself as bright smearing in the UFO test. We don't get a nice clear image in this mode"

More to the point though: If you're looking at that pic compared to the other three and you don't see the pink smearing on the left side of the UFO, I don't really know where we can go from there.

I don't have it, I have used it in the store for about 20 min with my laptop. In the last 3 years I have had and returned: PG35VQ, 32GK850G, AW3423DW, FI32U, XG279QAM, 32GQ950. I am currently using a PB328Q as my center. That's enough reference to be able to compare fairly.
It has a bit more motion blur and that's all. 99% of time people talk numbers based on reviewers don't have the monitor. Full GTG is not that important. You can play games very well on this monitor.

It's funny considering how much more image quality, contrast you can get with a little compromise of motion blur than LG's panel and backlight.

It's even funnier some people still like PB328Q as good as displaying 60Hz 80nits SDR in extreme limited range.
 

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It has a bit more motion blur and that's all. 99% of time people talk numbers based on reviewers don't have the monitor. Full GTG is not that important. You can play games very well on this monitor.

It's funny considering how much more image quality, contrast you can get with a little compromise of motion blur than LG's panel and backlight.

It's even funnier some people still like PB328Q as good as displaying 60Hz 80nits SDR in extreme limited range.
Your position of "it doesn't bother me, I like this monitor" is unquestionable. No one can tell you what you should or shouldn't enjoy. This is a discussion about the market and how it's lacking quality options and progress for the money.

There are many people, myself included, that would see this monitor for $3000 in real life and pass. I still have the PB328Q not because I think it's still amazing at 75Hz, but because nothing I have bought to replace it has been acceptable so far.
 

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Your position of "it doesn't bother me, I like this monitor" is unquestionable. No one can tell you what you should or shouldn't enjoy. This is a discussion about the market and how it's lacking quality options and progress for the money.

There are many people, myself included, that would see this monitor for $3000 in real life and pass. I still have the PB328Q not because I think it's still amazing at 75Hz, but because nothing I have bought to replace it has been acceptable so far.
It doesn't matter whether you like it or not. It is the panel with the highest color volume designed for HDR backlight. If you know how to use it, SDR content is basically HDR. Then HDR at a higher range of contrast is nowhere other monitors can display properly.

There is no better panel than this. Image quality outweighs response time every single time. Plus response time is fine. Doom Eternal ultra nightmare is easy.

As said before, buy monitor for image quality. Response time is the least to concern.

But I don't think people know better images when they prefer daily drive sRGB 80nits without ever realizing what SDR can look like. You get bothered by a lower end LG panel and think SDR should be fine. Ironically it doesn't because of low Hz backlight.

And you want somebody somehow magically uses better backlight for that panel. I can tell you when the panel lacks color in the first place. Higher contrast image will look much more desaturated. Then you should think why so far LG is only good at response time with merely DCI-P3 color space.

There are other panels for faster response time. It's just the image quality, contrast, will be hammered further.
 

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I just moved to China and don't have a monitor. I'm currently running a laptop with a 3080 and plan to build a desktop around Christmas. Should I grab a M32U now or is something better expected to release in the next few months?
M32u is a safe buy.
 

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- OLED 32-34“
- 4k resolution
- 120-240hz
- all the other shenanigans an Gaming OLED Monitor includes (HDR, contrast, VRR, DP, etc)

2023? Let’s hope for the best 🙏🙏🙏
OLED needs a lot of work to catch up. All that ABL and flickering are hardly fixed.
Other shenanigans such as infinite contrast is useless with ABL. Low APL HDR is rather pathetic.
I find it rather interesting this low APL image actually has an infinite contrast. The lowest is 0 nit. It has 20 layers of shade to hit the infinite contrast.
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It's beautiful with that darkness. It really shows the state of the contrast. So much depth in the cinematography.
 

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There is no better panel than this. Image quality outweighs response time every single time. Plus response time is fine.
Full Fanboy mode… it’s never a good thing and it kills a good discussion every time.
 

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Full Fanboy mode… it’s never a good thing and it kills a good discussion every time.
If only other panels hadn't disappointed even more. Funny people knows the least about the monitor is the fanboy of limited range.
 

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If only other panels hadn't disappointed even more. Funny people knows the least about the monitor is the fanboy of limited range.
You're assuming a lot here and being very aggressive about it. Not everyone has the same priorities you do, that doesn't mean they don't understand the tech.
 

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You're assuming a lot here and being very aggressive about it. Not everyone has the same priorities you do, that doesn't mean they don't understand the tech.
People truly understand 5ms response time is "unbelievable" fast without ever knowing full GTG is not that important.
And sRGB 80nits delivers amazing pictures.
 

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People truly understand 5ms response time is "unbelievable" fast without ever knowing full GTG is not that important.
And sRGB 80nits delivers amazing pictures.
sRGB at 80nit needed because that's what most industries use as standard for media creation. So if you use it for work at all, like I do, then you need that.

As far as GTG goes, it's not important to you. I can see bad response times in movement, so I prioritize that over HDR performance. For me, smearing/overshoot breaks the immersion.

This was the whole point of my comment that if they could mix the PG32UQX lighting setup with the GQ950 panel, it would be the best of both worlds. Even if you are happy with your monitor, how is improving the next version a bad idea?
 
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sRGB at 80nit needed because that's what most industries use as standard for media creation. So if you use it for work at all, like I do, then you need that.

As far as GTG goes, it's not important to you. I can see bad response times in movement, so I prioritize that over HDR performance. For me, smearing/overshoot breaks the immersion.

This was the whole point of my comment that if they could mix the PG32UQX lighting setup with the GQ950 panel, it would be the best of both worlds. Even if you are happy with your monitor, how is improving the next version a bad idea?
You still don't understand. The panel of GQ950 lacks color. It defeats one of the aspect of HDR. So it will look washed out in high contrast.
Why would any IPS manufacturer bother to equip a better high Hz HDR backlight on this panel if HDR is already washed out? The strong point of IPS is the color, not the response time.
And you just want a fast SDR 32'' 4K monitor with limited color space.
 

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This is currently being used by Acer X32 FP, which has been released in Asia,
this would be interesting if it wasn't twice the price of the M32U 5000RMB vs 9000RMB in China. Those are the lowest prices I could find on Taobao.
 

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The funny thing is that people think wide color space is oversaturated. For all these years they only see limited color at 100nits. Of course the high range image looks oversaturated on their monitors as well as on their minds.

It is simply because whatever their monitors cannot get higher color gamut, higher luminance, higher contrast at the same time. Wide color never looks saturated in higher range. It only looks more natural. It need to look natural at higher range of both luminance and contrast.

With OLED swooping in, people can finally see low APL images with color+, luminance, contrast+++. They think it is good. But all they see is a little bit more color, very limited luminance, decent contrast.

They should've seen better images with color+++, luminance++++, contrast++++.

They likes the 450 nits gold lit by candle light in Resident Evil Village. They should've seen what 1,000+ nits gold looks like in Doom. That's more like the high contrast gold lit by 2,000+lux spotlight in real life houses or in the jewelry store.

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I cannot wait for people to say images toned to SDR look oversaturated or overexposed when the color get squeezed from Rec. 2020 into sRGB or the actual HDR images look oversaturated or overexposed on the their displays with limited range.
 

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Well got the Gigabyte M32U delivered today.
Looks like I won the panel lottery on 1st try. No dead pixels, no dust under coating, no backlight bleed. Perfect panel (EDIT: well not quite. Check the post bellow).

The only thing that annoys me on it is the IPS-Glow. Its much more visible on 32" than on my old 27'' due to the size of the display.
Also It looks like I cant do 4k 144Hz on my 1080TI via display port. Only 98Hz are possible with RGB. 100Hz-144Hz are doable, but only with 4:2:2. :(
Guess its time for a new gfx card.
 
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The only thing that annoys me on it is the IPS-Glow. Its much more visible on 32" than on my old 27'' due to the size of the display.
You could try moving it slightly back, that would reduce the angle to the corners, which will reduce the glow. Might not do much, but couldn't hurt to try.
 

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You could try moving it slightly back, that would reduce the angle to the corners, which will reduce the glow.
But this will also reduce the size of the display and so make my 27"->32'' swap pointless :D
(the extra pixels from going 1440p->2160p are really nice though)

And my M32U is not as good as I initially thought. My first impression above was made during daytime, so I could do only limited tests for backlight bleed and panel uniformity.
During tests at evening in a completely dark room this display was quite dissapointing compared to my 7yo IPS display. :(
My old 27'' IPS has darker blacks and only minimal blacklight bleed in right bottom corner, the M32U on the other hand... well check it out for yourself:
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P.S. The keyboard on the right has the LED-Brightness turned to the max, but the photos made on same ISO.

Here is M32U at 50% brightness:
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The IPS-glow, when viewing from the side is also quite severe comared to my old 27''.
Dark scenes look almost bright grey at the display corners, which makes gaming or watching movies in a dark evironment quite a bad expirience on this display...
During daytime its ok thought.

Thinking about sending it back and trying my luck with LG 32GQ950 (your pics of it with almost zero IPS glow were quite nice)
How is the uniformity and BL-Bleed on yours?
 
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But this will also reduce the size of the display and so make my 27"->32'' swap pointless :D
(the extra pixels from going 1440p->2160p are really nice though)

And my M32U is not as good as I initially thought. My first impression above was made during daytime, so I could do only limited tests for backlight bleed and panel uniformity.
During tests at evening in a completely dark room this display was quite dissapointing compared to my 7yo IPS display. :(
My old 27'' IPS has darker blacks and only minimal blacklight bleed in right bottom corner, the M32U on the other hand... well check it out for yourself:
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P.S. The keyboard on the right has the LED-Brightness turned to the max, but the photos made on same ISO.

Here is M32U at 50% brightness:
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The IPS-glow, when viewing from the side is also quite severe comared to my old 27''.
Dark scenes look almost bright grey at the display corners, which makes gaming or watching movies in a dark evironment quite a bad expirience on this display...
During daytime its ok thought.

Thinking about sending it back and trying my luck with LG 32GQ950 (your pics of it with almost zero IPS glow were quite nice)
How is the uniformity and BL-Bleed on yours?
Haven't seen crap like this since 2018. You don't buy a cheap edge-lit to look at black. Get a FALD.
 

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The IPS-glow, when viewing from the side is also quite severe comared to my old 27''.
LCD black sucks. There, I said it.

But. Big tip.

You can improve it slightly with a break-in period.
There are 3 different kinds of black uniformity problems:
  1. Pressure derived nonuniformities (shipping box, storage, bracket, etc)
  2. Viewing angle derived nonuniformities (aka IPS Glow)
  3. Backlighting derived nonuniformities (aka edgelight bleed)
Sometimes shipping boxes are so tight, or shipped flat (e.g. bezel pressure) that it's like pressing finger hard on LCD (black distorts) for days on end. Boxes, storage, shipping, etc can exert nonuniform pressure on the LCD, pushing the Liquid Crystal fluid around a bit. Those kinds of pressure spots takes hours to disappear.

Smart reviewers like RTINGS already do this, as it's best-practice to break in a display before calibration.

Imagine finger pressing on LCD for weeks -- that's sometimes what a shipping box does.

Especially if it's packed so tightly and/or mis-shipped flat where the back weight presses downwards on the LCD, and some bezels are temporarily tighter than other bezels. This portion isn't backlight bleed.

You can have a simultaneous combination of #1, #2, #3 at the same time but it's the end user job to try to eliminate #1 before doing an RMA. Sometimes a monitor has in-spec #2 and and #3 but has a major problem with #1, which means the photo will become much better after a break-in period.

Sometimes #1 is not fully fixable (e.g. bezel is not a uniform tightness). No matter what display (CRT, plasma, LCD, etc) -- they all need a break-in period before calibration/evaluation. A lot of us knew that CRT convergence can shift with thermal expansion. But even LCD has a fluid distribution issue in the glass sandwich itself that returns to equilibrium over time after relief of pressure + exposure to heat of just running.

Partial Solution (for #1)
While #2 and #3 are not easy to fix, #1 (pressure-related nonuniformities) is usually greatly helped by burning-in your panel for a dew days. Almost everyone I've given this tip to, remarks at least some minor or major improvement.

#1 varies a bit from packaging to packaging, length of storage, how well it is shipped, the monitor design, temporary panel lottery effects, etc, so it can vary a lot between units of the same factory run too. Granted, some brands just simply design superior packaging that doesn't cause as many issues -- but more often than not, you still can recover from box-pressure-related issues via a simple break-in period -- reflow the liquid back to equilibrium can take days if it was under pressure-spots / panel-warping-pressure for weeks or months in freight container ship / warehouse storage.

Just let the LCD run nonstop for a few days 24/7. Unboxed, nothing touching LCD, maximum brightness, screensaver disabled. Just let it run, displaying active content to keep the pixels busy. The liquid crystal eventually reflows in the glass sandwich to a equilibrium, having been relieved from the pressure of a shipping/storage box. This will make shipping-derived pressure spots disappear.

After a few days, assuming you have no edge light bleed, the blacks become more symmetric (IPS glow). No guarantee how uniform it becomes, but it will almost always be better after Day #7 (>100h break in) than Hour #1. Especially if you unboxed in the middle of the winter (cold LCDs reflow slower). There may be leftover ugliness. But at least "Do What The Good Reviewers Do" and break in your panel. This can at least partially (and sometimes fully) resolve item #1.

IPS glow is always symmetric -- equal intensity at corners when viewed straight to center -- and becomes even more visible the closer you view the display. But your black nonuniformity is not symmetric, which suggests either #2 or #3.

This is a pesky problem that affects all LCDs of all brands.
 
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Haven't seen crap like this since 2018. You don't buy a cheap edge-lit to look at black. Get a FALD.
Come again after there are any sanely priced 32'' options on the marked.
If you meant a FALD TV, I don't want a huge-size TV as my PC display.

LCD black sucks. There, I said it.
...
;-)

Thanks for the tips though. I knew that #1 might become better over time or after some gentle massage with a microfiber cloth, but it's still very disappointing to see new expensive displays come out the box in a state as pictured in my photo.
In the end I decided to send the display back (Amazon already organized DHL-collection at residence tomorrow). The LG 32GQ950 should come in this week sometime between 5-7 Oktober. I hope that the 300€ Price-difference somehow reflects on panel quality/uniformity.
At least with the ATW-Polarizer you can mostly rule out #2. I still worried about the fan noise... Will report back again when the thing comes in.
 

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Come again after there are any sanely priced 32'' options on the marked.
If you meant a FALD TV, I don't want a huge-size TV as my PC display.


;-)

Thanks for the tips though. I knew that #1 might become better over time or after some gentle massage with a microfiber cloth, but it's still very disappointing to see new expensive displays come out the box in a state as pictured in my photo.
In the end I decided to send the display back (Amazon already organized DHL-collection at residence tomorrow). The LG 32GQ950 should come in this week sometime between 5-7 Oktober. I hope that the 300€ Price-difference somehow reflects on panel quality/uniformity.
At least with the ATW-Polarizer you can mostly rule out #2. I still worried about the fan noise... Will report back again when the thing comes in.
You bought the wrong technology.
You complain the non-FALD black level and the intolerance of fan noise as if they are some common features must be met.
Again, I haven't seen crap like this since 2018.
 

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Come again after there are any sanely priced 32'' options on the marked.
If you meant a FALD TV, I don't want a huge-size TV as my PC display.


;-)

Thanks for the tips though. I knew that #1 might become better over time or after some gentle massage with a microfiber cloth, but it's still very disappointing to see new expensive displays come out the box in a state as pictured in my photo.
In the end I decided to send the display back (Amazon already organized DHL-collection at residence tomorrow). The LG 32GQ950 should come in this week sometime between 5-7 Oktober. I hope that the 300€ Price-difference somehow reflects on panel quality/uniformity.
At least with the ATW-Polarizer you can mostly rule out #2. I still worried about the fan noise... Will report back again when the thing comes in.
If you can handle 140nits on the desktop you'll be happy with it. Uniformity on mine was perfect.

I'm still upset I had to return it, but I work on my PC 12 hours a day.
 

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If you can handle 140nits on the desktop you'll be happy with it. Uniformity on mine was perfect.

I'm still upset I had to return it, but I work on my PC 12 hours a day.
On what brightness value does it reach 140nits? You have to stay above 30 Brightness if you want flicker-free output, was this right?

Also are you sure it's not the Panel-Type (IPS-Nano) why you got the eye strain?
Did you use other IPS Nano panel displays except this one?

Also: Black uniformity of rtings' 32GQ950 test unit was pretty bad...
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/32gq950-b

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My M32U was collected today. 32GQ950 will be delivered on 07.10 according to amazon.
 

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On what brightness value does it reach 140nits? You have to stay above 30 Brightness if you want flicker-free output, was this right?

Also are you sure it's not the Panel-Type (IPS-Nano) why you got the eye strain?
Did you use other IPS Nano panel displays except this one?

Also: Black uniformity of rtings' 32GQ950 test unit was pretty bad...
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/32gq950-b

My M32U was collected today. 32GQ950 will be delivered on 07.10 according to amazon.
Ya, 30 is the setting where the flicker stops and on mine that was 140 nits. I'm certain it was the flicker for me, because I tried setting to 30 brightness and turning the contrast down to hit 100nits. It worked and I didn't get the eye strain nearly as bad, but the blacks were actual grey.

As for uniformity, very possible I had better panel luck, but the lack of glow is something that makes it look much more uniform as well. It's really hard to explain the difference not having glow makes in person, you can't get it from a picture.

Good luck, let us know how it is.
 

neojam

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Good luck, let us know how it is.
Well got the display today.
No dead pixels but with tiny bit of clouding on right top and right bottom corner, which is totally acceptable to me. Nothing like the mess that M32U was:

LVvsGBvsACR.jpg

The Image quality of the Display is great and the ATW-Polarizer is indeed a game changer.
I see almost no IPS-glow at all (except for a very tiny bit, when I use the display in a completely dark room). There is also a slight color change where the IPS-glow previously was, but it's hella much easier on the eyes to look at, than the glowing grey.
More companies should follow suit and use those in 32''+ panels. I also didnt experience any eye strain so far and I've been on this display almost half a day (40 Brightness).
Well everything about this Display is to my liking...

EXCEPT:
The frikken fan is too damn LOUD!!!! 😭

I bullshit you not, my PC with 6 Noctua NF-A12x25 fans and a 1080TI is quieter (when no load) than this mofo display, when listening to both from the same distance (1.8Meter).
There are huge vent holes around the ENTIRE housing of the display (you can easily see illuminated insides through it), so I guess thats why its so audible. Most displays have small vents either on top or back, but this one is built like a swiss cheese....
I bet with the time the problem will only worsen, due to the dust build up and also probably due to many small insects that are attracted to light, since the vents are huge and are everywhere (even on the bottom) and also always illuminated when the Display's LED-lighting is on .
It also seems like there is some cheapo fan running inside, since I hear it wobbling. Absolutely infuriating and irritating.

Fly light trap:
Fly Light Trap.jpg


I really dont get it. Why didnt they just program the FW in such a way, that the fan only starts to spin up for example @70 Brightness and higher. Or if there is a T-Sensor inside, starting from a certain temperature.
Makes no sense making the fan run all the time. 350Nits and 4k@144Hz should be doable with no fans. Besides all those holes are probably enough to cool the entire thing without any active cooling.

I also noticed that the backlight is ca. 2mm away from the LCD screen so there is slight dimming at the edges. This also causes a bit of blurriness/dimming of the text which is off-center. It doesnt bother me much, but might other people.
Here the photo where you can see display's housing between the LCD and Backlight layers:
gap.jpg


I'm currently deciding what to do with this thing due to loud fan. I also wrote LG today and asked for a fan fix through FW.
But they probably wont do anything about it. It's also likely, that it's simply not possible, due to them cheaping out on logical elements and installing a "dumb" uncontrollable fan that simply runs as long as there is current.
A way to mess up otherwise a fine display, LG...Really a bummer.

p.s.
Can I use your photo from the previous page (2 Displays side by side, one without ATW and the other one with) for my amazon review?
I think most people have now Idea what ATW does and you photo demonstrates it quite nicely.
The screen on the right was your LG 32GQ950-B, correct?
 
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JohnnyFlash

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Crap, that sounds like a bad fan. I had zero noticeable fan noise in a very quiet room.

As for the seperation between the backlight and lcd layer, all LG's I've ever seen do that. Even the 32GK850G, which was a VA, had the same thing.

If you want to use the pic, go for it. There are downsides to every monitor, but the polarizer is worth more than people think from pictures.
 

neojam

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Maybe some wonky EU-Batch (mine is made on 07/2022), who knows...
Also most german user-reviews I saw so far, almost everyone was complaining about loud fans. A guy on German amazon went through 3 of those displays and all had the problem.
I'll probably keep mine though, since everything else is great.
 
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