Samsung Says Phones with 1TB of Flash are Coming Soon

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Today, Samsung announced that smartphones with 1TB of flash storage are just over the horizon. While smaller companies like Smartisan have technically have technically beaten Samsung to the punch, the Korean tech giant says their fifth generation V-NAND now allows them to cram 1TB of storage into a single eUFS 2.1 package. Samsung also notes that their 1TB eUFS package is "exceptionally" fast, with sequential and random specifications that are closer to a desktop NVMe SSD than smartphone with eMMC storage. While 1TB storage configurations should be possible in current phones with upcoming 512GB microSD cards, even the fastest cards are at least an order of magnitude slower than Samsung's new eUFS module.

The 1TB eUFS also possesses exceptional speed, allowing users to transfer large amounts of multimedia content in significantly reduced time. At up to 1,000 megabytes per second (MB/s), the new eUFS features approximately twice the sequential read speed of a typical 2.5-inch SATA solid state drive (SSD). This means that 5GB-sized full HD videos can be offloaded to an NVMe SSD in as fast as five seconds, which is 10 times the speed of a typical microSD card. Furthermore, the random read speed has increased by up to 38 percent over the 512GB version, clocking in at up to 58,000 IOPS. Random writes are 500 times faster than a high-performance microSD card (100 IOPS), coming in at up to 50,000 IOPS. The random speeds allow for high-speed continuous shooting at 960 frames per second and will enable smartphone users to take full advantage of the multi-camera capabilities in today and tomorrow’s flagship models.
 
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More storage is always better. I use my phone as a storage device, it's nice to have some speedy transfers and larger size. I'm not paying 2k for one though..
 

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I have 48GB of storage in my phone. 16GB internal and a 32GB microSD. No need for more at this time.
 

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Be nice if it has a uSD slot as well :)
Have 16GB internal, 128GB uSD, could still use more as I use it for torrents and MP3 files.
 

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I guess for people who are recording their daily lives in HD on their phones. Otherwise.... I mean I put in a 64gb microsd in mine and threw a shit ton of music at it and barely made a dent. Movies obviously chew up a lot more, but seriously who is loading movies onto their phones? Thats why Netflix exists.
 

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While 1TB sounds nice, and will probably be common in two or three years, my 16GB internal + 64GB MicroSD = 80GB is plenty for me right now. But tech stuff changes quickly.
 

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People still do the whole "but this is plenty of storage why do you need more?" thing even on a hardware enthusiast site?

Grandpa, a CD can hold 500 floppy disks!!!

In my opinion I think it has more to do with if you’re not even using what you have, why spend more money for something you’re probably not going to utilize for the foreseeable future?
 

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In my opinion I think it has more to do with if you’re not even using what you have, why spend more money for something you’re probably not going to utilize for the foreseeable future?

Okay well I would utilize it. I do feel that the tiered pricing is the best idea but they usually don't price those in a consumer friendly way. Most of my phone ends up filled with videos, I could move them off to my pc but often have to reference them at some random point so they just stay there. I use mine a lot for work so I take lots of photos for product teardowns and slow-mo vids for drop tests etc.

I imagine that isn't most people but most probably do fill up with videos, and so many people wanting sd cards for more storage it makes sense it moves the way it is moving.

edit: My point is you hear the same squawkers every time there is a boost in storage space "why would you ever need that much?" When is the right time to increase storage? After your competitor does it?
 
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My current phone is a Sammy - a Note 8 with 64gb + 200gb sd.

Besides storing all the random photos I take with the phone (aka best camera is the one you have with you), I also sometimes need to have work files on me so it's better to have more room than I need than not. Plus having all my mp3s, audio books is great for road tripping.
 

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There never seems to be enough internal memory on phones, even Android phones that let you add an SD card.
Apps keep taking more storage, so even it that 32GB is enough, it's likely to be a problem a couple years from now.

I currently have 96GB in my Note 9. 128GB + 64GB SD card.
One of the reasons I went with the Note 9 over the S9+ was the 128GB vs 64GB of internal storage.
My Note 4 had 32GB of storage, which was great when I first bough it, but 2 years later was barely enough.

The SD card is used for Music, Photos and several movies when I travel, as streaming is not always possible.
Might have to buy a 256GB before my next long trip :p
 

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This is perfect for when you drop your phone and smash the screen, you can just remove the storage card and will have lost no data.

No wait, I'm thinking of a 10 year old sdcard. Why is this Samsung one better again?
 

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Okay well I would utilize it. I do feel that the tiered pricing is the best idea but they usually don't price those in a consumer friendly way. Most of my phone ends up filled with videos, I could move them off to my pc but often have to reference them at some random point so they just stay there. I use mine a lot for work so I take lots of photos for product teardowns and slow-mo vids for drop tests etc.

I imagine that isn't most people but most probably do fill up with videos, and so many people wanting sd cards for more storage it makes sense it moves the way it is moving.

edit: My point is you hear the same squawkers every time there is a boost in storage space "why would you ever need that much?" When is the right time to increase storage? After your competitor does it?

I purposely added "at this time" to my post where I stated the 48GB I have in my phone is plenty of storage. I think your use case is outside the norm. Your phone is a truly bad place to store videos. Your phone travels with you everywhere, so is at constant risk of being stolen, lost or damaged. You don't need work videos with you when you are out drinking with friends, or on a date / out to dinner with your significant other, or fishing somewhere.

The videos I take with my phone are of the kids, mostly. Those live on my phone only briefly. I get home and move them to my NAS, where they are then backed up. If I left everything on my phone I'd be risking losing them.

It is going to take something like a gigapixel camera for me to need more phone storage. For now that kind of space just increases the phone cost and adds no value. It is not like we use phones for more than a few years, max. So you can't compare this to a PC that is used long term.
 

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I purposely added "at this time" to my post where I stated the 48GB I have in my phone is plenty of storage. I think your use case is outside the norm. Your phone is a truly bad place to store videos. Your phone travels with you everywhere, so is at constant risk of being stolen, lost or damaged. You don't need work videos with you when you are out drinking with friends, or on a date / out to dinner with your significant other, or fishing somewhere.

The videos I take with my phone are of the kids, mostly. Those live on my phone only briefly. I get home and move them to my NAS, where they are then backed up. If I left everything on my phone I'd be risking losing them.

It is going to take something like a gigapixel camera for me to need more phone storage. For now that kind of space just increases the phone cost and adds no value. It is not like we use phones for more than a few years, max. So you can't compare this to a PC that is used long term.

Okay, I guess you are just on the other side of the spectrum then right? I don't think it is a usual case for someone to add backing up their phone to their NAS as part of their evening routine. No I don't need all my data storage at every single moment, but the convenience it allows is what I utilize. Important things I really need backed up I do place on the network drives at work. A portion of my music is also stored on my phone for when I don't have my music player with me.

I would lean more on local storage increasing than everything being streaming based any day of the week. I am honestly surprised at this statement from samsung because I would have bet sizes would start shrinking as connection speeds increased and more services wanting you to pay subscription fees for access to whatever.


Also never had a phone stolen or broken since having one starting in '02. Usually keep one for 2-4years.

Oh and don't worry, all the phone makers will only slowly increase storage space because there is a lot of consumer milking of overpriced smaller chips still to come before moving to 1TB.
 

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I have a 32gb pixel XL 1. I stream everything or go on Wifi with around 4-5 gb of music downloaded. I can easily download a bunch of movies for long trips but I always clear it up after. I don't hang onto them.

Some people might need 1tb, but I do not.
 

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I have 32GB storage in my S7 and it's plenty for me, I don't use phone as a storage device so typically I never check the storage sizes when buying a new one as the lowest storage option offered at the time is typically fine anyway.
 

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Okay, I guess you are just on the other side of the spectrum then right? I don't think it is a usual case for someone to add backing up their phone to their NAS as part of their evening routine. No I don't need all my data storage at every single moment, but the convenience it allows is what I utilize. Important things I really need backed up I do place on the network drives at work. A portion of my music is also stored on my phone for when I don't have my music player with me.

I would lean more on local storage increasing than everything being streaming based any day of the week. I am honestly surprised at this statement from samsung because I would have bet sizes would start shrinking as connection speeds increased and more services wanting you to pay subscription fees for access to whatever.


Also never had a phone stolen or broken since having one starting in '02. Usually keep one for 2-4years.

Oh and don't worry, all the phone makers will only slowly increase storage space because there is a lot of consumer milking of overpriced smaller chips still to come before moving to 1TB.

That's a great point you made about the increased focus on streaming. When I owned my first android phone, the OG Motorola Droid, I used to keep a few movies on it. I'd spend time ripping movies from a BD or DVD and then encoding them for my phone, since I didn't need HD quality on such a small screen. These days I see that as a complete waste of time. I just stream on the go. Same goes for music. So, my need for storage on my phone has really decreased rather than gone the other way.

I think, like you said, we're just on opposite ends of the use case spectrum. A 1TB phone is definitely not intended for me.
 

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Now if they would get rid of the blasted rounded screens. I want a flat screen like my note 5, Samsung!
 

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have a 256GB card and 64GB internal... will wait until 512GB cards are cheap
 

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I'd still be ok with 32gb. I literally only take photos on the phone and use it AS a phone.
Pics are cloud backed up, so i can clear space when I want
 

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That's a great point you made about the increased focus on streaming. When I owned my first android phone, the OG Motorola Droid, I used to keep a few movies on it. I'd spend time ripping movies from a BD or DVD and then encoding them for my phone, since I didn't need HD quality on such a small screen. These days I see that as a complete waste of time. I just stream on the go. Same goes for music. So, my need for storage on my phone has really decreased rather than gone the other way.

I think, like you said, we're just on opposite ends of the use case spectrum. A 1TB phone is definitely not intended for me.


Yea I think the focus on this really is as a memory manufacturer samsung wants to push new chips. But with the industry moving to streaming this goes against the grain. I do think the average probably does store a lot of photos and videos they capture themselves, but music and movies I would say most stream.

IMO for a phone of this level of storage to make it, it has to be priced low (which samsung will not want to do) or on an elite model only (more cameras like a spider face, gold plated shit, maybe a soulja boy logo etc) to target the higher budgets that just want the best whatever.


For me as I stated I would love 1TB, but price is my decider. If the phone is $100 more for 1TB vs 64GB, I would do it. If it ends up being like $300 more, then maybe ill start transferring files off more often lol.


That said I looked and am at 32/64GB used on my iphone. On my s7 i had a 128GB card and it was half full and onboard was almost full. So maybe more storage just enables me to be a digital hoarder.
 

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That's a great point you made about the increased focus on streaming. When I owned my first android phone, the OG Motorola Droid, I used to keep a few movies on it. I'd spend time ripping movies from a BD or DVD and then encoding them for my phone, since I didn't need HD quality on such a small screen. These days I see that as a complete waste of time. I just stream on the go. Same goes for music. So, my need for storage on my phone has really decreased rather than gone the other way.

I think, like you said, we're just on opposite ends of the use case spectrum. A 1TB phone is definitely not intended for me.

This works great until you have 12+ hours on a plane (I do this multiple times a year) or are staying in a location with no internet (2 weeks - 1 month a year for me), etc...
 

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This works great until you have 12+ hours on a plane (I do this multiple times a year) or are staying in a location with no internet (2 weeks - 1 month a year for me), etc...

That's true, and a phone is a viable way to satisfy the need for entertainment in those scenarios. I tend to use my laptop in those situations instead, and lo and behold I do have a 1TB SSD in it, for that very reason.
 
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