Reeven NAIA 240 All-In-One Liquid CPU Cooler Review @ [H]

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Reeven NAIA 240 All-In-One Liquid CPU Cooler Review

Today we are reviewing Reeven's first AIO cooler to come to market, the NAIA 240. It breaks with tradition a bit in that it is a refillable system rather than permanently closed as we see in many others. Let's see if its Frag-Harder lights and custom color liquid help it keep our overclocked Ryzen 7 cool.
 

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Wonder why they choose a curved surface vice flat? Is this to spread out the Tim better with less air pockets and rely on the Tim to transfer the heat vice close metal to metal contact?

The results does definitely separates this cooler from the air coolers with a rather loaded 1700. Very nice review.
 

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All the coolers should score 1 in the value chart:
To explain the formula we are using for Cost per Degree, it will be the difference in cost between the True Spirit and our review unit, then the delta in cost from our True Spirit divided by our cost delta.
 

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No Scythe FUMA yet? I thought it was the reigning champ.

And Im still not sure about the cost thing.

The gold standard is $45. The reviewed unit is $112. The Delta is $3.70 per degree. So in order to get 18c better cooling, i need to spend $67 more than $45? Still sounds like a bargain, a confusing bargain, but still a bargain.

Using the new formula, if a $45 cooler performed the same as the gold standard, it would have $0.00 on the chart...
 
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As usual, a good review. One thing nagging at me though. Manufacturer states it has a curved base plate. You mention you were concerned with the curved base plate. But you never showed how curved it is. That used to be pretty common in your reviews.
 

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Thanks for the review!

Question, do you have plans to revisit some older AIO's on the new test system? Like the Arctic Cooling 120 and 240, Corsair units, Kraken's? Just to see how currently existing staples of the AIO world stack up?
 

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Thanks for the review!

Question, do you have plans to revisit some older AIO's on the new test system? Like the Arctic Cooling 120 and 240, Corsair units, Kraken's? Just to see how currently existing staples of the AIO world stack up?
I think we are putting the H100i in there and that will likely be it. Costs too much to rereview all those parts.
 

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As usual, a good review. One thing nagging at me though. Manufacturer states it has a curved base plate. You mention you were concerned with the curved base plate. But you never showed how curved it is. That used to be pretty common in your reviews.

I was doing some photography today of the next cooler to be reviewed and unboxed the NAIA and got a pic of the baseplate, going forward base plate flatness will be photographed :)

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I was doing some photography today of the next cooler to be reviewed and unboxed the NAIA and got a pic of the baseplate, going forward base plate flatness will be photographed :)

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Wow! That's not very flat at all. Is it possible for the hold down hardware to flatten out that much of a bow? Without crushing the CPU or warping the MB?
 

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Wow! That's not very flat at all. Is it possible for the hold down hardware to flatten out that much of a bow? Without crushing the CPU or warping the MB?

I'd assume no, the curve is there on purpose per the NAIA web page to "greatly increase heat transfer and heat dissipation" which surprised me since IHS' have been flat for a long time now.
 

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I'd assume no, the curve is there on purpose per the NAIA web page to "greatly increase heat transfer and heat dissipation" which surprised me since IHS' have been flat for a long time now.
Exactly. I remember back in the day when lapping was a thing. Seemed like it was most common for the IHS to be bowed upward and lapping flattened it out, I haven't seen a bowed IHS in ages. What Reeven says about the NAIA doesn't make any sense to me. The only way that would make any sense is if the base plate is made of a relatively soft or springy metal and the mounting hardware puts enough force on it to flatten it out against the IHS. I'm interested to see what your mating pics look like.

Ummm... that was not perverted at all. :D
 

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Exactly. I remember back in the day when lapping was a thing. Seemed like it was most common for the IHS to be bowed upward and lapping flattened it out, I haven't seen a bowed IHS in ages. What Reeven says about the NAIA doesn't make any sense to me. The only way that would make any sense is if the base plate is made of a relatively soft or springy metal and the mounting hardware puts enough force on it to flatten it out against the IHS. I'm interested to see what your mating pics look like.

Ummm... that was not perverted at all. :D

Hehe, mount pic is on the 2nd page of the review, I went a little heavier on the TIM to compensate for the curve, here is the raw full res of the mount tho, forum still shrinks it some on upload, but should give you a better look

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Hehe, mount pic is on the 2nd page of the review, I went a little heavier on the TIM to compensate for the curve, here is the raw full res of the mount tho, forum still shrinks it some on upload, but should give you a better look
Doh! Completely forgot that I was responding to the same review. o_O:banghead: Can definitely see that the paste is thinner in the middle though. Still, it performed rather well at least when compared to the other HSFs tested so I guess it the curved base works.
 

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I think these reviews should show a 2+ hour figure for AIO's .. AIO's look great on 1~ hour tests but after a few hours of heavy load the delta between a decent air cooler and AIO is going to be pretty much zero...
 

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I think these reviews should show a 2+ hour figure for AIO's .. AIO's look great on 1~ hour tests but after a few hours of heavy load the delta between a decent air cooler and AIO is going to be pretty much zero...
If you think it takes a full 2 hours for these small AIOs to heatload, you would be very much mistaken. We formed the current testing process with heatloading the system being very much in focus.
 

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fair enough... I had seen some stuff claiming a longer time for heatloading.. but I will certainly take y'all word for it as you should know =p

To support Kyle's experience above, a properly set up AIO will have the same water temperature at 15 hours as it does at 15 minutes, in my experience.

Only if something is misconfigured or outright malfunctioning would there be a delta.
 
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