RDNA 780M Time Spy scores leaked

[Lakados]

https://t.bilibili.com/757518195570507793?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0

Timespy graphics results.

For those who don't feel like translating it.
When paired with DDR5 5600 it scored around 2750, with LPDDR5X7500 it broke just over 3000.
That is a decent boost over the previous 680M platform, between 15-25%.
That puts it in striking range of most of the RTX 2050 laptop configurations available which come in just under 3200 depending on how well its being cooled.

 

[sc5mu93]

now will they bring this to desktop. last apu for desktop was 5000G series which was still vega right?

 

[Lakados]

now will they bring this to desktop. last apu for desktop was 5000G series which was still vega right?

Yeah the 5700G runs a Vega 8, I have one on the other end of my office that I use for tinkering with. It's capable for what it is, but that is about it.

 

[Marees]

now will they bring this to desktop. last apu for desktop was 5000G series which was still vega right?

Zen 4 by default has 1 integrated RDNA 2 WGP and thats probably what you will get with desktop.

Better to buy RX 6600 / 6650 XT if you want a more powerful GPU (or RX 6400 XT if you want to run off board power)

It Won't Run Warzone, But AMD's Ryzen Zen 4 iGPU Can Power These Games With Ease​

https://hothardware.com/news/amds-ryzen-zen-4-igpu-can-run-these-games

 

[sc5mu93]

Zen 4 by default has 1 integrated RDNA 2 WGP and thats probably what you will get with desktop.

Better to buy RX 6600 / 6650 XT if you want a more powerful GPU (or RX 6400 XT if you want to run off board power)

It Won't Run Warzone, But AMD's Ryzen Zen 4 iGPU Can Power These Games With Ease​

https://hothardware.com/news/amds-ryzen-zen-4-igpu-can-run-these-games

obviously, it is wccftech, but the G APU variants are pretty successful, so I would be surprised if they dumped them for the somewhat anemic igpu in the current Zen4.
https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7000...00-ryzen-7000g-apus-desktop-cpu-roadmap-leak/

I remember reading somewhere that when AMD announced the basic igpu in all zen4 parts, they said don't expect it to be more than basic functionality, and that more full featured APUs were coming. (need to find article)

 

[Marees]

obviously, it is wccftech, but the G APU variants are pretty successful, so I would be surprised if they dumped them for the somewhat anemic igpu in the current Zen4.
https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7000...00-ryzen-7000g-apus-desktop-cpu-roadmap-leak/

I remember reading somewhere that when AMD announced the basic igpu in all zen4 parts, they said don't expect it to be more than basic functionality, and that more full featured APUs were coming. (need to find article)

Rembrandt (Zen 3) exists on mini PCs. Maybe there is a chance that it can come to desktops 🤔

I haven't seen a single roadmap of Zen 4 APU coming to desktop ...

https://www.techpowerup.com/299005/...d on the 6 nm,for a powerful mobile processor.

 

[Lakados]

obviously, it is wccftech, but the G APU variants are pretty successful, so I would be surprised if they dumped them for the somewhat anemic igpu in the current Zen4.
https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7000...00-ryzen-7000g-apus-desktop-cpu-roadmap-leak/

I remember reading somewhere that when AMD announced the basic igpu in all zen4 parts, they said don't expect it to be more than basic functionality, and that more full featured APUs were coming. (need to find article)

Yes, the iGPU is intentionally anemic because that is what OEMs want, and most consumers do too.
The average home or office user doesn't care that their Intel iGPU can't play anything more complicated than Solitaire, it exists to put images on a monitor and occasionally accelerate their Youtube, Netflix, and Disney+ streams, that's it.
Dedicating that extra silicon to "beefy" iGPUs only requires the OEMs to pay more for a feature that most of their users don't care about or won't use or requires AMD to take less of a cut on their sale as they sell it cheap to the OEMs so it can remain price competitive with Intels CPUs that have their standard anemic iGPU.
APU sales are moderately niche at this stage, AMD knows it, Intel knows it, and I fear our wallets will soon too, niche markets are rarely cost/benefit balanced, and given what the current GPU market pricing is AMD is going to have a lot of headroom to play with.

Fingers crossed I am wrong on that last part, I would love to see a good price-competitive APU, maybe using some of those 6 core stacked cache CCXs and a cut-down RDNA 3 that they could still package together at 120w TDP

 

[sc5mu93]

Fingers crossed I am wrong on that last part, I would love to see a good price-competitive APU, maybe using some of those 6 core stacked cache CCXs and a cut-down RDNA 3 that they could still package together at 120w TDP

I will help you out. You are wrong on that last part at least from the OEM perspective. Its pretty clear from reporting that OEMs are scared shitless by the big iGPU in the Apple Mx silicon, both on laptop and desktop. And i would expect they are acting accordingly.

 

[Lakados]

I will help you out. You are wrong on that last part at least from the OEM perspective. It’s pretty clear from reporting that OEMs are scared shitless by the big iGPU in the Apple Mx silicon, both on laptop and desktop. And i would expect they are acting accordingly.

As an M1 Ultra user I will straight up tell you the GPU isn’t much better than any of the cheap Nvidia GPU’s. You are mistaking the GPU for the hardware logic accelerators they have splashed all over the chip. Those are the bits that you are thinking.