Picard Will Lead "Radically Altered" Life in New Star Trek Series

My expectations plummeted to zero when I saw that the sign around the middle of the trailer reads:

"This facility has gone 5843 says without an assimilation"

That sounds so stupid. Like ST:D levels of stupid. It seems clear that whatever is ruining ST:D is going to ruin this as well.

God, how I want to be wrong on this one.
 
Brackle said:
I think the girl is a perfect borg. Remember in First Contact, the borg tried to make data more human, gave him skin so he could feel. I think they finally perfected that technology. But, I think she had a mind of her own and Hugh (yes he was at the Comic Con panel) helped her become an individual, like he was since he was freed from the borg collective with help from Geordi and Picard. So I think Hugh helped her break from the borg, and told her that Picard would protect her.

Of course this is all theory, I have no evidence in anything.

BUT if hugh is going to be in the series.....it really changes in my mind how this story is going to go. It also explains why 7 on 9 is in it. Who better to go to for help with a half human/borg who is more human i guess?
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I got the impression from the trailer that the Romulans are harvesting Borg technology. The Romulans have Picard's DNA and he was connected to the Borg, I would take a guess that she is his 'daughter' and also some type of Borg human hybrid created to control the Borg.
 
I suggest anyone who wants some tidbits, go back and watch Nemesis :)

It is much better than I remember and has a few little bits like Admiral Janeway.
 
Did that trailer strike anyone else as strangely low and high budget at the same time? The parts filmed at a physical location looked great, but any of the CG looked jarringly fake to me. It almost felt like a fan film. Like at the end where he says "engage" can you possibly make it more obvious that he was sitting in front of a green screen?
 
The latest trailer has me sold on this. So freakin epic.

Ok I’ve watched it like 10 times now. I need this in my life!!!
 
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theplaidfad said:
Oh, here we go again with the super-critical star trek "fans". Any new trek is good trek
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i present you with an objectively terrible opinion posted by this poor intellectual sphincter. you deserve better from these companies that will own properties you love until long after you are dead, friend.
 
aokman I've rewatched that loads of time. Not one of the top ST films, but I always come back to it.
Regarding the trailer - it had me at engage lol. I'm likely to watch this, even in spite of bad reviews.

I also recognize whatshisface from Penny Dreadful - nice addition.
 
purple_monster said:
i present you with an objectively terrible opinion posted by this poor intellectual sphincter. you deserve better from these companies that will own properties you love until long after you are dead, friend.
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I bet you're just a blast at parties. It isn't my fault or those "companies" fault that miserable fucks, such as yourself, have simply forgotten how to have fun.

Enjoy writhing in misery blaming everyone but your own sad soul. Clearly my post struck a nerve with you. Hopefully the rest of my reply hits close to home, "friend".
 
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why cant people give this shit a shot and judge for what it will be and keep their bias aside. Am I the only one who enjoys tv for the entertainement and lets the show develop and take its own path? I don't expect new shows to live up to old shows. That was in its time, I don't think one can ever live up to that without messing it up lol. So I am not surprised they choose to go their own route with it. But I guess people will never be satisfied. I will watch the show and judge it based on characters and storyline, not by predetermined bias and shit.
 
NKD said:
why cant people give this shit a shot and judge for what it will be and keep their bias aside. Am I the only one who enjoys tv for the entertainement and lets the show develop and take its own path? I don't expect new shows to live up to old shows. That was in its time, I don't think one can ever live up to that without messing it up lol. So I am not surprised they choose to go their own route with it. But I guess people will never be satisfied. I will watch the show and judge it based on characters and storyline, not by predetermined bias and shit.
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Pretty sure most people have been positive after the trailer was released. Given the state of Trek leading up to this point (Discovery and the reboot movies), skepticism from folks was well founded.
 
NKD said:
why cant people give this shit a shot and judge for what it will be and keep their bias aside. Am I the only one who enjoys tv for the entertainement and lets the show develop and take its own path? I don't expect new shows to live up to old shows. That was in its time, I don't think one can ever live up to that without messing it up lol. So I am not surprised they choose to go their own route with it. But I guess people will never be satisfied. I will watch the show and judge it based on characters and storyline, not by predetermined bias and shit.
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Seconded
 
Gorilla said:
It almost felt like a fan film. Like at the end where he says "engage" can you possibly make it more obvious that he was sitting in front of a green screen?
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that line was meant to be a bit of tongue and cheek humor wrapped in a bit of nostalgia...he's saying it almost playfully because he knows he hasn't said that line in many, many years and he's having fun with it
 
polonyc2 said:
that line was meant to be a bit of tongue and cheek humor wrapped in a bit of nostalgia...he's saying it almost playfully because he knows he hasn't said that line in many, many years and he's having fun with it
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I wasn't talking about him saying it. I was talking about how terrible the CGI background behind him looked.
 
NKD said:
why cant people give this shit a shot and judge for what it will be and keep their bias aside. Am I the only one who enjoys tv for the entertainement and lets the show develop and take its own path? I don't expect new shows to live up to old shows. That was in its time, I don't think one can ever live up to that without messing it up lol. So I am not surprised they choose to go their own route with it. But I guess people will never be satisfied. I will watch the show and judge it based on characters and storyline, not by predetermined bias and shit.
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Too many idiots with rose colored glasses of the past who are unwilling to change. It's funny because their ass backward mentality is the antithesis of Star Trek.
 
What tightens my jaw is they seem to have reduced our once chest-out proud Picard to a bumbling, drooling old man that goes shuffling down the hall looking for toilet paper.

Seriously, the original Picard? Anyone that backlipped him he'd grab a fistful of their shirt and glare with an animal sense of who had the power. Now? He cries during thunderstorms and is afraid of the dark.

Girl that watched the trailer with me mumbled "Star Trek: Dementia" immediately after, and with tears in my eyes I hated her because I knew she was right - she'd had the guts to say what I could never.
 
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NKD said:
why cant people give this shit a shot and judge for what it will be and keep their bias aside. Am I the only one who enjoys tv for the entertainement and lets the show develop and take its own path? I don't expect new shows to live up to old shows. That was in its time, I don't think one can ever live up to that without messing it up lol. So I am not surprised they choose to go their own route with it. But I guess people will never be satisfied. I will watch the show and judge it based on characters and storyline, not by predetermined bias and shit.
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If they don't want us to compare new shows to old ones then they should stop remaking and rebooting old shows. That's all there is to it. They are re-purposing old and beloved shows and characters and turning them into things with zero semblance of their old self. Or worse actively making fun of their old self unironically.

How the hell can you view a character that you know and love without bias when they turn them into fumbling weak idiots? And the same thing is happening with James Bond, Thor and a bunch of others as we speak.

New shows should absolutely live up to old shows if they are spin-offs of said old shows. Even the idea of viewing a reboot or continuation in a vacuum is ridiculous.

If you were a car sales man you'd tell people: Forget your old car, this new one doesn't have to be faster, or better in any way, just buy it, and view it as it is, it doesn't have to live up to what you had before!
 
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This series needs to produce a new beloved captain and eventually gets their own series. That's all I expect.
 
polonyc2 said:
Star Trek: Picard is going to feature more than one member of The Next Generation...as the marquee panel in today’s Trek-verse Hall H extravaganza, the Sir Patrick Stewart-led CBS All Access series revealed that Brent Spiner will appear as Data, Voyager actor Jeri Ryan is back as Seven of Nine and the Borg will be a part of the series as well, as Jonathan Del Arco, who played the young Borg Hugh in Next Generation will be appearing with the Star Trek T.N.G. Captain when he returns...Next Generation's Marina Sirtis (Troi) and Jonathan Frakes (Riker) will also be a part of this...

the big reveal came on Saturday afternoon in a new trailer for the upcoming Picard, that also shed more light on what the former Enterprise leader has been up to for the past almost two decades...hype meter just went up to 11

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I have to say, it looks promising. Then again, trailers for things like that always do.
 
M76 said:
If they don't want us to compare new shows to old ones then they should stop remaking and rebooting old shows. That's all there is to it. They are re-purposing old and beloved shows and characters and turning them into things with zero semblance of their old self. Or worse actively making fun of their old self unironically.

How the hell can you view a character that you know and love without bias when they turn them into fumbling weak idiots? And the same thing is happening with James Bond, Thor and a bunch of others as we speak.

New shows should absolutely live up to old shows if they are spin-offs of said old shows. Even the idea of viewing a reboot or continuation in a vacuum is ridiculous.

If you were a car sales man you'd tell people: Forget your old car, this new one doesn't have to be faster, or better in any way, just buy it, and view it as it is, it doesn't have to live up to what you had before!
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I don’t drive tv shows lol. I don’t need the same old, same old story because they people will bitch and it simply boring to watch shit over and over with a face lift. Sometimes I gotta let the old stuff Rest In Peace. Choice is easy, you don’t like it. Don’t watch it.
 
Looking forward to this.
I'm almost hoping that at the start we see him as a broken unsure man, but as it goes on he gets the old Picard confidence back
 
NKD said:
Sometimes I gotta let the old stuff Rest In Peace.
I don’t drive tv shows lol.
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And don't understand the concept of an analogy apparently.

NKD said:
Sometimes I gotta let the old stuff Rest In Peace.
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Then do that. But they aren't doing that are they? They drag out everything beloved to the generation who were young in the 80s and 90s from the closet and ruin it.
 
theplaidfad said:
I bet you're just a blast at parties. It isn't my fault or those "companies" fault that miserable fucks, such as yourself, have simply forgotten how to have fun.

Enjoy writhing in misery blaming everyone but your own sad soul. Clearly my post struck a nerve with you. Hopefully the rest of my reply hits close to home, "friend".
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oof the projection here
 
theplaidfad said:
And I'm the "intellectual sphincter"? Why stoop so low in the first post just to dodge now? How very Romulan of you. Is it that you have the witt of a targ?
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"intellectual sphincter" lol i forgot i said that. thats a great insult and i am completely doubling down on call you that, you intellectual sphincter.
 
purple_monster said:
"intellectual sphincter" lol i forgot i said that. thats a great insult and i am completely doubling down on call you that, you intellectual sphincter.
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Feel free to double down on any half-witted thing you have to add from this point forward. I enjoy watching a good dumpster fire.
 
I never liked Picard as a captain. Now if they made Picard the VILLAIN of a new Trek series, that would be cool.
 
odditory said:
What tightens my jaw is they seem to have reduced our once chest-out proud Picard to a bumbling, drooling old man that goes shuffling down the hall looking for toilet paper.

Seriously, the original Picard? Anyone that backlipped him he'd grab a fistful of their shirt and glare with an animal sense of who had the power. Now? He cries during thunderstorms and is afraid of the dark.

Girl that watched the trailer with me mumbled "Star Trek: Dementia" immediately after, and with tears in my eyes I hated her because I knew she was right - she'd had the guts to say what I could never.
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The dude is 80 years old, of course his personality would change. Not to mention he was never an aggressive person to start with but more a respected but very private diplomat hence why he never got close with anyone. If you watch a recent interview with Patrick Stewart and cast, he implies he had a heavy hand in shaping this new take on Picard so let's see how it turns out before making assumptions.

 
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5150Joker said:
If you watch a recent interview with Patrick Stewart and cast, he implies he had a heavy hand in shaping this new take on Picard so let's see how it turns out before making assumptions.

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I'd say he's the only reason the show even exists. Which is why I have confidence that it will be good, I don't think he would be interested in doing something like this if he didn't consider it be worthwhile.
 
twonunpackmule said:
If Kurtzman is heading that show...it's going to suck. Sorry for the fans.
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Stewart is an executive producer of the show and one of its writers, and if we are to believe him, his interviews indicate he has had a lot of say on the direction and story. The directors they choose will also have a lot of impact and Frakes will be directing two of the ten epsiodes.
 
variant said:
Stewart is an executive producer of the show and one of its writers, and if we are to believe him, his interviews indicate he has had a lot of say on the direction and story. The directors they choose will also have a lot of impact and Frakes will be directing two of the ten epsiodes.
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There is very little doubt that Stewart had creative input as well as input on who filled what roles. That alone gives me confidence that the series should be serviceable at the absolute worst, but very good otherwise. And i absolutely loathe STD.
 
4saken said:
There is very little doubt that Stewart had creative input as well as input on who filled what roles. That alone gives me confidence that the series should be serviceable at the absolute worst, but very good otherwise. And i absolutely loathe STD.
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I think they will cancel Discovery after season three. It's been a major boondoggle. The only reason they probably haven't cancelled it yet is that it would look bad for the Star Trek brand they are trying to reboot.
 
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