Well, i've had Nvidia in the past, GF4Ti4400, then went to 9800p, now the 6800, but does anyone know any good ocing utilites for the 6800's?? I know of riva tuner, but i don't want it to change settings, will it change any quality settings if i install it?? Anyone know of any other good and reliable oc utilites for NV cards?? I did oc my GF4, but it was a gainward so it came with Xpertool, and the Radeon came with an oc program too, so i'm new to finding 3rd party oc utilites, and i would like to know of some. Thank you for your time.