NYC Teens More Interested in Video Games than Sex According to Study

J3RK

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How the hell do kids have 3 hours a day to play video games? Shouldn't they be studying, participating in school activities, or something more productive in life. This is a big problem in society as we are finding that our kids increasingly are unable to be competitive against a globalized work force. I'm relatively old in the mid stages of my life and I havn't even had time to game or even watch TV for 17 weeks now. Perhaps we should be glad they are not interested in sex as I'm not sure I want them procreating.

This from someone called AMDGAMER. :D Actually this is a good thing. Why would I want to teach my children how to run themselves into the ground? They get good grades, they work hard, half of them (I have four) play sports, (sometimes in select leagues even), but they are damned sure going to have their time to relax and do the things THEY want to do too. I will never push them into doing anything at the expense of living. Sure, I'll nudge them a bit to keep them working hard, sure, I'll push them into doing what's necessary to be able to achieve what they want to in life. However, you get one life. Who wants to run themselves into the ground until they retire? What then? Get around to all those things you always wanted to do? Oh wait, that's right, you're old now. If you're someone that thrives on that "competitive global workforce" and that IS what you want to do and enjoy doing, playing the game, climbing ladders, etc. (there are plenty of people like that) then cool. I'd just never try to steer my kids that way. Success? Yes, but not at the expense of enjoying life too.
 

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This from someone called AMDGAMER. :D Actually this is a good thing. Why would I want to teach my children how to run themselves into the ground? They get good grades, they work hard, half of them (I have four) play sports, (sometimes in select leagues even), but they are damned sure going to have their time to relax and do the things THEY want to do too. I will never push them into doing anything at the expense of living. Sure, I'll nudge them a bit to keep them working hard, sure, I'll push them into doing what's necessary to be able to achieve what they want to in life. However, you get one life. Who wants to run themselves into the ground until they retire? What then? Get around to all those things you always wanted to do? Oh wait, that's right, you're old now. If you're someone that thrives on that "competitive global workforce" and that IS what you want to do and enjoy doing (there are plenty of people like that) then cool. I'd just never try to steer my kids that way. Success? Yes, but not at the expense of enjoying life too.

It used to be, you run yourself into the ground until you retire at 40. Now, you do what you can until you retire at death.
 

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It used to be, you run yourself into the ground until you retire at 40. Now, you do what you can until you retire at death.

Yep. I think that this attitude really needs to change. It's actually counter-intuitive. We are automating things more and more. We are shifting more and more of what we call work to tasks that SHOULD be more flexible, both in hours worked, locations worked from, etc. The more we advance ourselves technologically, the more we SHOULD have time to enjoy ourselves, engage in artistic endeavors, and really enjoy some form of new renaissance. (at least to a degree) Yes, we should keep pushing forward, no we shouldn't become lazy, but what's the point of advancing things if we're also increasing what's expected of everyone both in availability, hours worked, etc.? Might as well toil away doing what the robots are doing if it means we can actually disconnect and do the things we want to more.

I'm a systems administrator. I'm one of the few on the team that refuses to install the mobile device management software on my phone, install Skype/Lync on my phone, etc. You either email me or call me, and I better be the on-call person in the rotation if you contact me after hours. So many people are so fast to give up a little bit of privacy, detachment from the corporation. I know people here that sit on their laptops, still VPNed in after hours while they should be getting a little downtime in. Some fun? Some sleep? Social interaction? It's just dumb.

Way off topic I guess now. This stuff just bothers me
 

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Yep. I think that this attitude really needs to change. It's actually counter-intuitive. We are automating things more and more. We are shifting more and more of what we call work to tasks that SHOULD be more flexible, both in hours worked, locations worked from, etc. The more we advance ourselves technologically, the more we SHOULD have time to enjoy ourselves, engage in artistic endeavors, and really enjoy some form of new renaissance. (at least to a degree) Yes, we should keep pushing forward, no we shouldn't become lazy, but what's the point of advancing things if we're also increasing what's expected of everyone both in availability, hours worked, etc.? Might as well toil away doing what the robots are doing if it means we can actually disconnect and do the things we want to more.

I'm a systems administrator. I'm one of the few on the team that refuses to install the mobile device management software on my phone, install Skype/Lync on my phone, etc. You either email me or call me, and I better be the on-call person in the rotation if you contact me after hours. So many people are so fast to give up a little bit of privacy, detachment from the corporation. I know people here that sit on their laptops, still VPNed in after hours while they should be getting a little downtime in. Some fun? Some sleep? Social interaction? It's just dumb.

Way off topic I guess now. This stuff just bothers me


That's the effect of competition. Eventually, if you won't do it, someone else will come along that will.
 

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The fear of making a mistake. Back in my day and your day...mistakes were made. Apologies were made. Anything but the most grievous of sins was forgotten and we moved on. These days if you make a mistake...you are fucked for life. It will NEVER be forgotten and you will spend the rest of your life that every time you put a step forward that a sledge hammer is waiting to crush you into oblivion.


I just told you what would have happened to me in my day, a near death experience at best. But the world was changing even back in the 70's when I was young. But even today, I believe you that some kids today might have this perception. But I don't think that reality bares it out, meaning I don't think a kid would actually have to life with such a thing hanging over him like a cloud. Of course we all have to live with what we believe whether it comes to pass or not. So that being said, I could accept that you are correct about the kids being afraid, even if they don't have as much to fear as they believe, it's the belief that impacts their lives.
 

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It used to be, you run yourself into the ground until you retire at 40. Now, you do what you can until you retire at death.

A 40 year retirement plan, I wish. My old man never talked about retirement at 40. The only people I know of that ever looked at retirement that young were military retirees because if you made enough rank it was doable, specially if you married another service member. But I retired from the Army at 38 and I am 57 now and I'm not planning on retiring until 53. The old lady on the other hand says 56 :cry:
 

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That's the effect of competition. Eventually, if you won't do it, someone else will come along that will.

This is true. In the case of my own kids, at least so far, they all kind of have a little niche that they're shooting for. Sure there will be competition, and they should be prepared for that. I just don't want their entire lives revolving around that, unless of course that makes them happy.
 

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Yep. I think that this attitude really needs to change. It's actually counter-intuitive. We are automating things more and more. We are shifting more and more of what we call work to tasks that SHOULD be more flexible, both in hours worked, locations worked from, etc. The more we advance ourselves technologically, the more we SHOULD have time to enjoy ourselves, engage in artistic endeavors, and really enjoy some form of new renaissance. (at least to a degree) Yes, we should keep pushing forward, no we shouldn't become lazy, but what's the point of advancing things if we're also increasing what's expected of everyone both in availability, hours worked, etc.? Might as well toil away doing what the robots are doing if it means we can actually disconnect and do the things we want to more.

I'm a systems administrator. I'm one of the few on the team that refuses to install the mobile device management software on my phone, install Skype/Lync on my phone, etc. You either email me or call me, and I better be the on-call person in the rotation if you contact me after hours. So many people are so fast to give up a little bit of privacy, detachment from the corporation. I know people here that sit on their laptops, still VPNed in after hours while they should be getting a little downtime in. Some fun? Some sleep? Social interaction? It's just dumb.

Way off topic I guess now. This stuff just bothers me


That sounds nice, but that isn't how it works.

I'm also a system's administrator and what I have come to realize is that I know as much as I know, in large degree, because of how much time I am on the job. I learn and become more powerful because I work so much. Experience, exposure to coworkers, being around when shit breaks and the real work starts, and the risks ramp up. I don't need to be around the shop all the time, most of the time I'm not even working that hard at anything. but I am continuously immersed in it, looking at it, questioning my solutions, my methods. And therefor, I am always improving.

I bet if you think about it, you'd find the same is true for yourself.

You can't get this sitting at home doing your thing.
 

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Actually that is EXACTLY how it works. I just think you mistook what I was trying to say. I'm saying that if I'm not on call for the week, and it's my time off, I am NOT available to the company unless it's a dire emergency. I don't wish any bad for my company, and I'm a helpful person by nature, but I REFUSE to be tethered at all times like some people allow themselves to be. I'm not a pet, I'm a valued employee. I work my ass off, I fix and improve things constantly, and do jump through the odd hoop here or there due to the love of my job. However, when I'm on my time, it's MY time. If I happen to check my work email during that time, that's a bonus.

I'm an EXCELLENT employee, but I am not property as much as they wish otherwise. :D

As far as your methods, yes, they are similar to mine. I just won't take it home with me.

In a general sense, as things advance, I would hope that people in general would have MORE free time, not LESS. This also doesn't apply to certain things of course. I'm sure there are some Pseudo-Aspy-Scientists out there who love nothing more than working toward their next discovery. That IS what they do for fun. That's great! I'm sure this applies to many fields, and in some ways, yes, it applies to mine, and myself. However, I do have other interests. Several. Some of them even make money for me, and are what I'd still consider hobbies. I require the time to pursue those in addition to my family life and day-job. I love my day job, but I won't sacrifice the rest of my life for it. I guess I'm lucky in that I have a pretty good balance. What I'm saying is that I'd like to see that being an option for MORE people not LESS as time goes on.

Designing analog circuitry for music synthesizers is one of the biggest things I do for fun outside of work. So, yes, sitting at home doing my thing is every bit as enriching as anything else I could be doing. In fact it's one of the first things where I had enough of a passion to learn it from the ground up, stick with it, and become proficient at it just for the pure learning, knowledge, process, and yes, the end result is fun too.
 
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Actually that is EXACTLY how it works. I just think you mistook what I was trying to say.....................................So, yes, sitting at home doing my thing is every bit as enriching as anything else I could be doing. In fact it's one of the first things where I had enough of a passion to learn it from the ground up, stick with it, and become proficient at it just for the pure learning, knowledge, process, and yes, the end result is fun too.

Then we are very much alike. I value my off time. I could work instead and make money instead, so from my point of view, I'm worth X dollars an hour whether I am working or playing at home. And I do know what I am worth and how much money I save my company's customer, hell last year I saved my customer enough money to cover, not my salary, but what my company charges for me, a couple times over. That's like getting a SAN Admin/Engineer for free for two years.
 
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This from someone called AMDGAMER. :D Actually this is a good thing. Why would I want to teach my children how to run themselves into the ground? They get good grades, they work hard, half of them (I have four) play sports, (sometimes in select leagues even), but they are damned sure going to have their time to relax and do the things THEY want to do too. I will never push them into doing anything at the expense of living. Sure, I'll nudge them a bit to keep them working hard, sure, I'll push them into doing what's necessary to be able to achieve what they want to in life. However, you get one life. Who wants to run themselves into the ground until they retire? What then? Get around to all those things you always wanted to do? Oh wait, that's right, you're old now. If you're someone that thrives on that "competitive global workforce" and that IS what you want to do and enjoy doing, playing the game, climbing ladders, etc. (there are plenty of people like that) then cool. I'd just never try to steer my kids that way. Success? Yes, but not at the expense of enjoying life too.

That was back when I had Steve and Kyle change my name for me on this forum as I was using my real name. I used to enjoy PC gaming before I settled for just console gaming as it is more casual which thus allows me to pick up the controller and play here and there. Then I just got too busy to even do that and my Xbox is collecting dust. To be fair, AMD didn't really give me much of an incentive to cheer for them until recently. Even then, their GPU's are nothing to cheer about.
 

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That was back when I had Steve and Kyle change my name for me on this forum as I was using my real name. I used to enjoy PC gaming before I settled for just console gaming as it is more casual which thus allows me to pick up the controller and play here and there. Then I just got too busy to even do that and my Xbox is collecting dust. To be fair, AMD didn't really give me much of an incentive to cheer for them until recently. Even then, their GPU's are nothing to cheer about.
Well amd's lineup at the moment would do you just fine since you don't game anymore.
 

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That was back when I had Steve and Kyle change my name for me on this forum as I was using my real name. I used to enjoy PC gaming before I settled for just console gaming as it is more casual which thus allows me to pick up the controller and play here and there. Then I just got too busy to even do that and my Xbox is collecting dust. To be fair, AMD didn't really give me much of an incentive to cheer for them until recently. Even then, their GPU's are nothing to cheer about.

I know what you mean. My main hobby takes most of what would be gaming time. I squeeze that in usually just before I go to sleep, which means that it's usually on the Wii U or N3DS. (and soon to be Switch) I still REALLY love PC gaming, and do manage to play at least once a week for a few hours, but definitely not like I used to. My kids do more than I do, but even they have other things going on as well. My main point is that they COULD manage a couple of hours a day if they chose to use that time for gaming. (I'd say they probably game for 2-3 hours maybe 3-4 days out of the week in reality)

I'll force in game time if it's something I REALLY want to play though. I've been managing to squeeze in a couple of hours here and there to play Nier for example. For something like Doom, I just play it until I'm done, then get back to my other hobbies and such. I'll still pull a full weekend of gaming here and there, just not as often as I used to.
 

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I know what you mean. My main hobby takes most of what would be gaming time. I squeeze that in usually just before I go to sleep, which means that it's usually on the Wii U or N3DS. (and soon to be Switch) I still REALLY love PC gaming, and do manage to play at least once a week for a few hours, but definitely not like I used to. My kids do more than I do, but even they have other things going on as well. My main point is that they COULD manage a couple of hours a day if they chose to use that time for gaming. (I'd say they probably game for 2-3 hours maybe 3-4 days out of the week in reality)

I'll force in game time if it's something I REALLY want to play though. I've been managing to squeeze in a couple of hours here and there to play Nier for example. For something like Doom, I just play it until I'm done, then get back to my other hobbies and such. I'll still pull a full weekend of gaming here and there, just not as often as I used to.

That is the issue as I don't have time for any hobbies. I'll have to figure something out though as I am quickly burning out to the point where I am starting to feel apathetic about everything. I am considering relocating into rural Eastern Kentucky right now and getting away from it all.
 

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That is the issue as I don't have time for any hobbies. I'll have to figure something out though as I am quickly burning out to the point where I am starting to feel apathetic about everything. I am considering relocating into rural Eastern Kentucky right now and getting away from it all.

That is a big problem. I've got a few game developer friends that used to work for some very well know companies. Programming was their passion and hobby as well as day job. In many cases one would think that's a dream combo, but once that company basically owns you, and you have less and less control and your personal life and work life start to blur things can get bad. Two of them lost their wives. One went completely off the deep end into depression, self-destructive behavior, etc. He's better now, but the last 15 years of his life... not so good. These are absolutely extreme examples, but they've definitely bolstered my opinion of how I should balance my life, limit my off-hours availability, etc. I'm more than happy to help my employers out after hours in an emergency. I'll come in at 3am if there's something critical that needs to be done, and it happens maybe 2-3 times a year or so. I'm lucky in that the people that work where I do are a "rag-tag bunch" :D that will try everything they know how to do and work around a problem before they start contact IT. I'm also lucky that if I do come in at 3am (or something along those lines) I can just stick around, work my 8 hours, and go home super early. It's pretty flexible. So, I'm available, but still get my time.
 
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