Nvidia 4080 Reviews are out!

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Agreed. I'm wondering if we'll see msrp for these or if it will be a ~$200 mark-up.
AIB partners have released models up to $1500.
Even at $1200, the price to performance is terrible. Sure it's 50% faster than the 3080, but it's also >50% more expensive. The value for dollar is supposed to increase each generation, not stay the same.
 
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Even if I had that much disposable income I wouldn't buy it out of principle. Steve Burke from Gamer's Nexus said it best when nVIDIA isn't truly moving the needle forward, they're just turning the whole gauge to make it appear as if the needle has moved superficially. Aside from the deal I already made with another member to acquire a used 2080 Ti for a good price - I have no interest whatsoever in buying a new nVIDIA GPU again the forseeable future until their CEO comes to his senses or gets knocked off his high horse by competition and lowers prices to sane levels again, accounting for inflation, of course.
EDIT: And this is coming from someone who has loyally bought nVIDIA graphics hardware since the GeForce 6 series way back in 2004.
 
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The reviews only make me more dedicated to waiting to see what AMD comes up with. Great performance but fuck that price.
AMD tends to have driver issues and handicap their own cards.

That aside, the 4080 isn't worth the price. Might as well jump to 4090...which I have and worth every penny. Mind you I'm running 5120x1440.
 

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I've never had any issues with my 6700 XT.
Same with the FirePro I am using now temporarily with modded Amermine Adrenalin drivers. For the most part, the experience has been very rock solid. Which is definitely something I could not have said 10, even 5 years ago. Do not let their past bad rep dissuade you any longer.
 

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NVIDIA will likely continue to hold back inventory to sell off 30 series. Probably going to be 6 months minimum before the prices start dropping on these cards. Outrageously priced given the market.
 

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Nvidia: We have 4080 12GB at $899
Consumer: BS. Should be 4070 Ti.
Nvidia: Ok. Unlaunched and rename 4080 12GB → 4070 Ti

Nvidia: We have 4080 16GB at $1199
Consumer: BS. Should be around 3080 12GB msrp of $799
Nvidia: Ok. Reprice from $1199 → $899 (inflation)

Moral of this story: Wait for the price to come down after AMD launched theirs
 

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Hopefully somebody will buy these to take the heat of the RTX 4090s - they are still quite difficult to get hold off. :rolleyes:
 

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https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfo...iew-a-powerful-gpu-with-a-big-pricing-problem

As expected, insane pricing for this 4080.

Historically going all the way back to the GTX-680 up to the RTX-3080, pricing has consistently been in the $550 to $699 range for ten years on the xx80 series cards. Now all of a sudden a massive pricing increase to $1,200.00 WTF? Even with inflation, this 4080 should be like $899 tops.

And these reviews, show the card to only be like 30% to 40% or so faster than the 3080 @ 4k gaming.

And what makes even less sense, the 3090 was $1500 at launch, and the 4090 is $1600, only a hundred bucks price difference, but a massive performance difference being like 75%. SO why is the 4080 $500 higher than the 3080, but only a 40% performance upgrade?
 

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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-founders-edition/

50% faster than the 3080 10GB at both rasterization and ray tracing (4K).

And is $500 higher priced than the 3080 10GB, but the 4090 is 75% faster than the 3090, and costs only $100 more. So again why did nVidia price the 4080 so outrageously high? When they didn't with their 4090?

RTX-2080Ti was $1200 at launch
RTX-3090 was $1400 at launch
RTX-4090 is $1600

So the xx90 series going up approx. 15% in price each new generation, that's acceptable.

GTX-1080 was $599 at launch
RTX-2080 was $699 at launch
RTX-3080 was $699 at launch
RTX-4080 is $1,200.00 at launch WTF?
 

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One big issue with consumer-reviewer, how much does the so call $700 3080 ever existed for them ?

Could be that newegg research suck big time, but there is no 10g 3080 sold by newegg at the moment it seems:
https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709 601357282 601357261 8000 4131&d=3080+RTX&isdeptsrh=1

Bestbuy ?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?id=pcat17071&qp=gpusv_facet=Graphics Processing Unit (GPU)~NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080^videomemorycapacitysv_facet=Video Memory Capacity~10 gigabytes^soldout_facet=Availability~Exclude Out of Stock Items&sp=+currentprice skuidsaas&st=3080+rtx

According to pcpart picker:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=492,507&sort=price&page=1

They start at $817, most are above $900, it could be that the search has issue with it, but going manually was not able to find anything under $845 USD.

Easier to find 3080TI:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#sort=price&c=505

Are pretty much currently at the 4080 price. The good price-availability seem to be more on ebay than new product online on Nvidia side.

On bhp, zero 3080, 3080TI, 3090, 3090TI seem available, need to go down in the 3070 for the add to cart button to appear:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?q=rtx 3080

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It has terrible value versus a product that you need to go on the used market to buy it seem.

RDNA 2 stock seem much more massive in the add to cart online world in the US market at least and much better price that should make the 4080 pricing completely silly, but for some reason it does not fully work like that.

All that to say I suspect looking at the current price 3080TI are sold, regular 3080 seeming hard to find, that the 4080 will be sold out at launch.
 

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Are the 4090s really a hot item and just sold out due to high demand? Or did nVidia purposely release a trickle amount of cards to make the news sound good, "sold out" ?

I look on Best Buy and Microcenter daily for fun, and the 4090's are never in stock, it's always "unavailable" or "Out of stock" since last month.
 

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https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfo...iew-a-powerful-gpu-with-a-big-pricing-problem

As expected, insane pricing for this 4080.

Historically going all the way back to the GTX-680 up to the RTX-3080, pricing has consistently been in the $550 to $699 range for ten years on the xx80 series cards. Now all of a sudden a massive pricing increase to $1,200.00 WTF? Even with inflation, this 4080 should be like $899 tops.

And these reviews, show the card to only be like 30% to 40% or so faster than the 3080 @ 4k gaming.

And what makes even less sense, the 3090 was $1500 at launch, and the 4090 is $1600, only a hundred bucks price difference, but a massive performance difference being like 75%. SO why is the 4080 $500 higher than the 3080, but only a 40% performance upgrade?
One word: greed.
 

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Are the 4090s really a hot item and just sold out due to high demand? Or did nVidia purposely release a trickle amount of cards to make the news sound good, "sold out" ?

I look on Best Buy and Microcenter daily for fun, and the 4090's are never in stock, it's always "unavailable" or "Out of stock" since last month.
Would be really hard to distinguish brand value vs favouring Hopper.

But people (including here) did talk about never seen before and by high amount higher volume in the channel than the usual halo card, but AMD pushed RDNA 3 back a bit, 4080 launch more than meh, demand for it is probably more than expected considering the price point.

And H100 80GB AI card cost $32,955 before tax USD in japan and I am now sure if it is all-most of them, a $8000 per CPU socket 5 years license has well:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1758...ow comes with a,normally $8000 per CPU socket.

If they are using there special 5nm "Nvidia 4nm" TSMC space more on that product than on the 4090, it is not necessarily more thought into it that it is expected to be sold for so much more to the supermicro, dell, cisco and co.

I doubt they could afford in the current tech market to not sell has much has they can of an high margin product like the 4090 and have some superbe long term vision brand building to make it hyper rare worldwide.
 

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Are the 4090s really a hot item and just sold out due to high demand? Or did nVidia purposely release a trickle amount of cards to make the news sound good, "sold out" ?

I look on Best Buy and Microcenter daily for fun, and the 4090's are never in stock, it's always "unavailable" or "Out of stock" since last month.
Idk. I think in MC case they are not adding inventory in the site. I haven't seen a single 4090 on their site since launch.
 

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Pricing on 3000 series is not helping Nvidia, AIBs, or retailers clear out stock. Slow rolling 4000 cards doesn't make 3000 look any better.
 

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Are the 4090s really a hot item and just sold out due to high demand? Or did nVidia purposely release a trickle amount of cards to make the news sound good, "sold out" ?

I look on Best Buy and Microcenter daily for fun, and the 4090's are never in stock, it's always "unavailable" or "Out of stock" since last month.
From what I've read, and I think it was confirmed by Kyle, is that NVIDIA dumped all their 4090 inventory on the market at release and it's going to be a slow trickle now into next year.
 
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