No Office 2019 Without Windows 10

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A post on the Windows blog outlines changes to servicing and support of Windows and Office. The post states that Office 2019 will only be available to Windows 10, or the next long-term servicing version of Windows Server. Support will be shorter than normal well, Instead of the normal 5 years standard support, and 5 year extended, they are shortening extended support to 2 years.

Microsoft has made no attempt to hide the fact that it wants Windows users to make the switch to Windows 10. The post also states that Office 219 will release in H2 2018, and extended support of both Office 2019, and 2016 will end at the same time on October 14th 2025.

Servicing extensions for Windows 10 will help customers who need a little extra time to implement Windows as a service; changes to the Office 365 ProPlus system requirements provide clarity for new ProPlus deployments; and Office 2019 and Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2018 will give customers who aren’t yet ready to move to the cloud a valuable set of new security and productivity features.
 
My work laptop is still on windows 7. I really would prefer windows 10 but with a hardware refresh thank you very much.
 
I'm perfectly happy with Office 2010. No need to upgrade.

Heck, even Office 2003 still works just fine, and without that annoying ribbon, or xml-based file formats.

I mean, maybe for some niche workflows you need the very latest version of office, but I can't think of anything I use it for that I couldn't do in Office 2003, and I actually prefer the pre-ribbon interface.
 
I'm forced to use the latest version of office at work and to be honest I hate it. They changed the entire interface just because they can and I find it very cumbersome.

At home, I've been using libre office for a couple years now. Excellent interface and it just works. It's also free. Doesn't require win10 either (even though that's what I have). I find it superior to office in every way.

Sounds like ms is shooting themselves in the foot again.
 
Well bye bye 2019. Might have grabbed a few for my family/business machines if it was truly standalone (no telemetry crap like Win 10) and played with Win 7.

Looks like Office 2003 through 2010 will stay in the stables for a bit longer.
 
I imagine most of the sells will be from state and government agencies anyway.
 
By the time this becomes mainstream, Windows 7 will be out of support anyway. Not a huge deal IMO...if you are on Win 7 and O365 you can keep using Office 2016.
 
I've used Office since sometime in the 90s. I am OK with the ribbon, as long as I have enough resolution to have it not take too much real estate.

But honestly, I couldn't tell at all what advances have been made since Office 2010. I just installed Office 2016 but for the life of me, nothing stands out in my casual use. Word's gonna Word.
I suppose the service integration is there, like OneDrive. But I don't use any of that, cloud is just someone else's computer.

What I do truly hate is no longer getting install ISOs off MSDN for new products. If at SOME point my work upgrades to Office 2019, and things aren't backward compatible, well good luck if you hose your machine and have to reinstall a few things and perhaps aren't on a fast network. I have a folder of install ISOs for everything I need and I'd really like to keep it that way.
 
Gigus Fire said:
Can anyone point out any new features since office 2007?
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From what I can tell, mostly small stuff. Menu improvements, more colors, larger spreadsheets, etc.

Overall - however - the basic functionality is more or less unchanged since I have been using Office dating back to the Windows 3.11 days.
 
lollerwaffle said:
I've used Office since sometime in the 90s. I am OK with the ribbon, as long as I have enough resolution to have it not take too much real estate.
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The ribbon is very customizable, it can be totally hidden, show only tabs or stay constantly open. I get that some people don't like it but it seems to have worked out well now well over ten years old.

lollerwaffle said:
But honestly, I couldn't tell at all what advances have been made since Office 2010. I just installed Office 2016 but for the life of me, nothing stands out in my casual use. Word's gonna Word.
I suppose the service integration is there, like OneDrive. But I don't use any of that, cloud is just someone else's computer.
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The progression version over version tends to be subtle, Office has been so feature rich for so long that totally super awesome new stuff everyone could find use for is pretty tough. The nicest thing about Office 2016, scaling on high-DPI monitors in combo with Windows 10. Everything is finally crisp and sharp without the wackiness of a lot of desktop apps at high-DPI even under 10.


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lollerwaffle said:
What I do truly hate is no longer getting install ISOs off MSDN for new products. If at SOME point my work upgrades to Office 2019, and things aren't backward compatible, well good luck if you hose your machine and have to reinstall a few things and perhaps aren't on a fast network. I have a folder of install ISOs for everything I need and I'd really like to keep it that way.
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You can roll your own. Office, even the packaged version, gets regular updates so an ISO can become stale quickly.
 
lol they go hand in hand.
I dont want and have no need for either.
 
MavericK said:
By the time this becomes mainstream, Windows 7 will be out of support anyway. Not a huge deal IMO...if you are on Win 7 and O365 you can keep using Office 2016.
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Win8/8.1 is good till 2023 :)
 
Gigus Fire said:
Can anyone point out any new features since office 2007?
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I've found that Excel has added quite a few useful features even from 2013 to 2016. It's hard to find in the craptastic ribbon interface, but there's buttons there that do SSIS light things. A few of us have found them handy here in the office.

The rest of the suite - not so much.
 
phred15 said:
With the latest windows 10 update we can no longer open links in outlook 2007
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They accidentally stumbled on a security feature.
I never click links in emails.

For other uses, it looks like another reason to avoid Windows 10.
 
Not even this Spectre/Meltdown fear mongering will force me to upgrade to Windows 10.
 
jfreund said:
Office 2003 was the last good version. They ruined it with that "ribbon" bullshit.
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Heh... well, if you don't mind large documents with embedded pictures printing out blank pages where the pictures are supposed to be.. go ahead and use anything before office 2013.

The older versions of office had their own issues. The newer versions have been way better as far as actual reliability.

As for 2019 coming out this year.. that means I will be able to get another copy of 2016 before 2019 comes out and then 2019 when it comes out through HUP. Makes me happy.
 
Kongar said:
I've found that Excel has added quite a few useful features even from 2013 to 2016. It's hard to find in the craptastic ribbon interface, but there's buttons there that do SSIS light things. A few of us have found them handy here in the office.

The rest of the suite - not so much.
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This is very useful analyzing data in databases. Not so sure what's so hard to find in the ribbon, it's under the Data tab and the UI walks you through the steps pretty well.
 
I purchased both the full version of Office 2010 Professional Plus and Visio 2010 Premium back in 2010. Those versions suite me just fine.
 
heatlesssun said:
This very useful analyzing data in databases. Not so sure what's so hard to find in the ribbon, it's under the Data tab and the UI walks you through the steps pretty well.
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I guess not hard to find - but kind of... not obvious? We had office 2016 a long time before people even noticed it was there and then we were like "wait - that's new! OH cool!"
 
Kongar said:
I guess not hard to find - but kind of... not obvious? We had office 2016 a long time before people even noticed it was there and then we were like "wait - that's new! OH cool!"
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I think part of the problem when dealing with somethng that's as feature rich as Office, it just gets hard to figure out everything that's in it. That was part of the rationale behind the ribbon, to make it easier to find things. I think it's easier than classic nested menus.
 
Hmmm, have they EVER fixed the infamous “Bullet Bug”. It’s better, but still has issues & quirks. Wish we could tell M$ to fix your bugs before you make silly demands.
 
MavericK said:
I don't know why you would use 8/8.1 over 10 but, to each his own I guess. :p
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How about no telemetry, forced updates, or bi-annual full reinstalls that reset settings, uninstall programs and revert default programs back to MS defaults (Edge, etc) - all without adding any actual new features most users would find meaningful or useful?

Other than DX12 - which has been a nonstarter and game developers are ignoring it - what else does 10 really add beyond a bunch of shoddy, mobile-centric app store bloat and Candy Crush, that's compelling enough not to stay on 8.1 or even 7 until MS gives users a better reason?

What amazing, must-have feature in 10 are users missing?
 
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odditory said:
What amazing, must-have feature in 10 are users missing?
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If one has avoided Windows 10 and the use of things like 2 in 1s, store apps, Cortana, etc. then sure you aren't missing anything by design. All of my personal devices at this point have been on 10 for 2 1/2 years now and I do use a lot of this stuff. I'm not going to try to run Windows 7/8.1 on my 15" Surface Book 2 and I'm not going to try to rebuild my sig rig with Windows 7/8.1 when the thing has shit tons of apps from all over installed and running smoothly for 19 months now.

And it's no different than any other version of Windows, I've never coupled new hardware with an old Windows version.
 
BTW, telemetry was added to 7 and 8/8.1 so that's not really an argument against 10 anymore.
 
As far as I can tell; they've yet to add telemetry services to the cumulative updates, so you can still uninstall the telemetry KBs.
 
I mostly use Google Docs nowadays. I keep Office around mainly for .doc and .docx files that get sent to me.
 
MavericK said:
I don't know why you would use 8/8.1 over 10 but, to each his own I guess. :p
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Not that I use it any more but, no Cortana, control of updates and no tracking (if you prevented/removed the appropriate updates).

There's nothing I use in Windows 10 that I didn't have in Windows 7 and above. The vast majority of the 'new' features are pretty much useless to me.
 
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