Nicehash Excavator 100% LHR unlock!

Bigbacon

Fully [H]
Joined
Jul 12, 2007
Messages
19,917
Last edited:

xenium

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
Aug 15, 2006
Messages
1,904
LHR and FHR prices are going to reach parity now. Gamers are already salty about this. The last 2-3 months it's been "prices are falling, just wait", now it's going to be "I fucking hate miners" again like 2021.

Im just waiting on trex/lolminer unlocks now. Not a chance in hell Im using windows or nicehash, at scale.
 

Bigbacon

Fully [H]
Joined
Jul 12, 2007
Messages
19,917
LHR and FHR prices are going to reach parity now. Gamers are already salty about this. The last 2-3 months it's been "prices are falling, just wait", now it's going to be "I fucking hate miners" again like 2021.

Im just waiting on trex/lolminer unlocks now. Not a chance in hell Im using windows or nicehash, at scale.

I suspect the others will figure it out although I swore one of them already said they probably couldn't get past 85% but I don't know why NH can do it and others can't.

I wish I had funds for more cards now.
 

xenium

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
Aug 15, 2006
Messages
1,904
I suspect the others will figure it out although I swore one of them already said they probably couldn't get past 85% but I don't know why NH can do it and others can't.

I wish I had funds for more cards now.
Trex devs claimed about ~80% unlock was more or less the theoretical max with a "traditional" unlock scheme. Likely due to the way they keep the mem controller load/activity as high as possible, without triggering LHR.

Quickminer is pulling a different trick/method where it just resets the mem controller load to 0% constantly.

On a side note, lhr 10gb 3080's are really temping now. Most are around $850 shipped, and in stock.
 

BassTek

Supreme [H]ardness
Joined
Jul 13, 2002
Messages
6,226
I’m pretty much at full capacity now without adding more motherboards, psu and/or splitters but it is tempting to grab a card or two before they get bought up again.

It’s good that all LHR cards will be getting a boost though, hopefully it spreads to the other clients as xenium mentioned because I don’t want to deal with windows.
 

Andrew_Carr

2[H]4U
Joined
Feb 26, 2005
Messages
2,540
LHR and FHR prices are going to reach parity now. Gamers are already salty about this. The last 2-3 months it's been "prices are falling, just wait", now it's going to be "I fucking hate miners" again like 2021.

Im just waiting on trex/lolminer unlocks now. Not a chance in hell Im using windows or nicehash, at scale.
I really don't want to have to use windows, but I'd gain at least 200MH/s with this. I guess I can install windows this weekend and setup teamviewer or something to manage them. Already having to do that for the weird 3060 v1.
 

Bigbacon

Fully [H]
Joined
Jul 12, 2007
Messages
19,917
I really don't want to have to use windows, but I'd gain at least 200MH/s with this. I guess I can install windows this weekend and setup teamviewer or something to manage them. Already having to do that for the weird 3060 v1.

at least it doesn't take long to do. install windows, install nvidia driver, install QM, press go, change the OC to manual or use a preset. Not sure what problems people have with windows and mining. I don't seem to have any stability or crashing issues with mine even with 7 cards running in it.
 

Andrew_Carr

2[H]4U
Joined
Feb 26, 2005
Messages
2,540
at least it doesn't take long to do. install windows, install nvidia driver, install QM, press go, change the OC to manual or use a preset. Not sure what problems people have with windows and mining. I don't seem to have any stability or crashing issues with mine even with 7 cards running in it.
Benefits of windows: AMD cards and More Power Tools, sometimes driver support is faster for newer GPUs by a few days, can now overclock AMD CPUs in windows without booting into BIOS & RAM overclocking tools can help automate some stuff
Drawbacks of windows: Auto restarts of miners if GPUs crash, watchdog restarts of the system if something else happens and ability to quickly update mining settings. If I want to change my wallet address or something, I can update 1 thing instead of 1 x [Number of Computers]. Stats tracking is also nice (power, hashrate, etc.) to see if I'm having consistent issues during hot hours of the days or something.

Are miners expanding? I figured with the difficulty bomb still an unknown, that most would be in a holding pattern
I think most large farms aren't really expanding (ETH specifically, huge opportunities for BTC and other algorithms that use ASICs due to China's shutdown of miners). A lot of people are buying A2000s, CMP 170s or such now though instead of gaming cards, so the price drops of gaming cards might be deceiving.
 

xenium

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
Aug 15, 2006
Messages
1,904
Are miners expanding? I figured with the difficulty bomb still an unknown, that most would be in a holding pattern
Not like they were in 2021, but there's definitely some expansion going on. This LHR unlock will force parity between prices at least. I have a feeling they will probably meet somewhere in the middle, and "in stock" LHR cards will be out of stock a bit quicker now. FHR prices are definitely going to come down though at this point, considering they're still $100-200 over LHR cards that are sitting in stock brand new, all day long.

On a side note, NH quick miner pulls some shady shit. Im trying to run a mixed rig (LHR/FHR) with NHQ for LHR, but Trex still running FHR cards. It simply isn't possible, NHQ miner will check for any other running miners and kill the process. NH can fuck off specifically just because of that bullshit.
 

Andrew_Carr

2[H]4U
Joined
Feb 26, 2005
Messages
2,540
Are miners expanding? I figured with the difficulty bomb still an unknown, that most would be in a holding pattern
I'm hoping the professional cards come down in price as well. Sick of these gargantuan cards that don't play nice in server cases.
 

xenium

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
Aug 15, 2006
Messages
1,904
I'm hoping the professional cards come down in price as well. Sick of these gargantuan cards that don't play nice in server cases.
As someone with multiple A4000's, I wouldnt recommend them unless you have sub 70F ambient temps year round. I had to buy 3060 AIB coolers for all mine, the mem runs very hot in stock form (heatsink design/limit, not a thermal pad issue). I think A2000's are very similar. I don't mind GDDR6X cards personally, they just need a lot of airflow and high quality pads.
 

Andrew_Carr

2[H]4U
Joined
Feb 26, 2005
Messages
2,540
As someone with multiple A4000's, I wouldnt recommend them unless you have sub 70F ambient temps year round. I had to buy 3060 AIB coolers for all mine, the mem runs very hot in stock form (heatsink design/limit, not a thermal pad issue). I think A2000's are very similar. I don't mind GDDR6X cards personally, they just need a lot of airflow and high quality pads.
Yeah, I've been playing around with the A2000s. They're ok after I repadded and repasted but I'm going to try copper shims next. I actually removed the fans and covers and stuck them in a server case to see if that would improve hashrates; no luck but temps are good even without a fan (for whatever reason my 12GB model was much hotter stock than my 6GB model). I was thinking of the rtx a5000s though. They seem to get 3090 hashrates at around 3080 power levels or better. The GPU cases I'm buying have one 1600W platinum PSU per node and fit 3 GPUs so it's hard to reach anywhere near 50% if I'm using low powered GPUs, but the dual slot limit means a lot of the gaming cards I'd want to shove in there don't fit.
 

Andrew_Carr

2[H]4U
Joined
Feb 26, 2005
Messages
2,540
One more rig to switch over still, but so far it's working as advertised on everything except my rtx 3060 v2 (which is running at 38MH/s). I'm running the latest nvidia drivers so maybe that's the issue. Everything else is running pretty well on medium settings (96MH/s on 3080s, 79.5MH/s on 3070tis, and 60.6MH/s on 3070s). 3060 v1 is running at 47MH/s so I can stop using my ghetto workaround which was unstable. Tomorrow I'll work on my 3060ti rig I guess. I need to just start leaving HDMI cables installed on whichever card is the primary GPU because it gets annoying having to cycle through and open up cases to change things if I need something other than remote access.
 
Joined
Nov 8, 2021
Messages
14
Has excavator had any hashrate unlock before? The timing on this seems to be too good. Next gen cards coming out, maybe sales slipping a bit? Maybe related to the hack?
 

Andrew_Carr

2[H]4U
Joined
Feb 26, 2005
Messages
2,540
Has excavator had any hashrate unlock before? The timing on this seems to be too good. Next gen cards coming out, maybe sales slipping a bit? Maybe related to the hack?
I don't think so. Speculation is that it's based on the hacked data since the methods used are different from T-Rex etc. LHR unlocks. I guess Nvidia didn't pay the ransom so the hackers "leaked" the data. I wouldn't be surprised if the payment arranged was something like a 2% dev fee of all mining rewards for a time.
 

pclausen

Gawd
Joined
Jan 30, 2008
Messages
660
Yep and it works great. Here's on of my LHR rigs after a couple of hours on NBMiner:

nbminer1.jpg


View from AM:

nbminer2.jpg


Efficiency on the 3080Tis is quite a bit better than my 3090 rigs now.
 

xenium

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
Aug 15, 2006
Messages
1,904
Better than a 3060Ti/3070 also? Looks like it might be the new king for efficiency at least in the 3000 series. This is great news.
Those look pretty much on par with 60ti/70's, Im surprised how efficient they are for how power hungry gddr6x mem is. Those are definitely kings of the hashrate density + efficiency, as long as you replace the pads and can keep them cool.
 

Andrew_Carr

2[H]4U
Joined
Feb 26, 2005
Messages
2,540
Trex better get one out now.
Yeah, nbminer seems to be working out okay for me so far. I switched all my LHR rigs over to it last night. Unfortunately I messed with overclocks again so I had to reset them to previous values to regain stability and now it seems ok. Slightly less hashrate than nicehash on a couple GPUs, but my 3060 v2 is hashing much higher and my 3060TIs seem to be doing slightly better so overall it's a net win.
 

Bigbacon

Fully [H]
Joined
Jul 12, 2007
Messages
19,917
I just want trex because i was using that before and im already setuo for it.
 

vegeta535

[H]F Junkie
Joined
Jul 19, 2013
Messages
8,478
I just started up mining again and so far only getting 82mh/s on a 3080ti. Seems low but better then the 60~ I use to get before the unlock.
 

Andrew_Carr

2[H]4U
Joined
Feb 26, 2005
Messages
2,540
I just started up mining again and so far only getting 82mh/s on a 3080ti. Seems low but better then the 60~ I use to get before the unlock.
What are you using? For nbminer you have to use their release candidate version. Same with nicehash.
 

Andrew_Carr

2[H]4U
Joined
Feb 26, 2005
Messages
2,540
When you open it for the first time you should get a checkbox option to use the RC client. May have to adjust your overclocks as well. A lot of suggestions for the LHR cards were slightly different than the non-LHR versions.

[Edit: You have to use quickminer, none of the others currently support it.]
 
Last edited:

vegeta535

[H]F Junkie
Joined
Jul 19, 2013
Messages
8,478
I think Nicehash only has the QuickMiner with 100% LHR unlock atm, and you must select the RC version (not stable) when installing.
Yea I tried both. I didn't select the RC version when installing. I'll try it out when I get home from work.
 

pclausen

Gawd
Joined
Jan 30, 2008
Messages
660
You also have to use the latest driver from Nvidia, which I find quite interesting especially since this does not work on LHR v3 cards (3050 and 12G 3080s). Almost as if Nvidia is trying to clear out inventory of LHR v2 cards, clearing the way for the 4000 series GPUs.
 

pclausen

Gawd
Joined
Jan 30, 2008
Messages
660
TRex Beta 0.26.0 also just came out with 100% unlock. Clearly some event took place that is now enabling all miner devs to release full unlock versions of their software.
 

Bigbacon

Fully [H]
Joined
Jul 12, 2007
Messages
19,917
TRex Beta 0.26.0 also just came out with 100% unlock. Clearly some event took place that is now enabling all miner devs to release full unlock versions of their software.

was just about to post this! Yea they had to work together on this or reverse engineer their code to all get it running at the same time.
 

phillyboy

[H]ard|Gawd
Joined
Jun 3, 2006
Messages
1,205
was just about to post this! Yea they had to work together on this or reverse engineer their code to all get it running at the same time.
NVIDIA was hacked big time in March… probably just took some time to engineer a workaround with all the leaked documentation out there 😕
 

Verge

Supreme [H]ardness
Joined
May 27, 2001
Messages
7,271
New T-rex just crashes for me.


NBMiner seems to work though.
 

vegeta535

[H]F Junkie
Joined
Jul 19, 2013
Messages
8,478
Well got it work for a bit.. My laptop instantly locks up when I start QM. It has a 3060 in it. Also on my PC while QM is running when I try to run EVGA Precision or HWM they instantly close. Otherwise I am getting 117ms/a at 250w~ with my 3080ti now.
 
Last edited:

vegeta535

[H]F Junkie
Joined
Jul 19, 2013
Messages
8,478
Meh not worth doing now still. I get about $3.xx a day on the 3080ti. About another $1 on my laptop if I could get it working on my 3060 laptop but still locks it up.
 

pclausen

Gawd
Joined
Jan 30, 2008
Messages
660
NBMiner is rock stable for me. I think this is tuned about as good as it is going to get:

miner006_5_11_22.jpg


I would have liked to see the 3060Ti above 60 MH/s, but it has Hynix memory, so I can't quite get there. After 24 hours, not a single reject and no HW errors.

That all LHR rig (miner006) is now pretty close to my all non-LHR rig (miner005), both from a hash rate perspective as well as from an efficiency perspective:

AM_5_11_22.jpg


Might be time to start selling my 5700XT GPUs, but they still churn out close to 1 GH/s and the efficiency is fair, so despite needing babysitting at least once a week, so I guess I'll hold on to them for now.
 
Last edited:

Anh N.

Gawd
Joined
Feb 3, 2007
Messages
860
NBMiner is rock stable for me. I think this is tuned about as good as it is going to get:

View attachment 472460

I would have liked to see the 3060Ti above 60 MH/s, but it has Hynix memory, so I can't quite get there. After 24 hours, not a single reject and no HW errors.

That all LHR rig (miner006) is now pretty close to my all non-LHR rig (miner005), both from a hash rate perspective as well as from an efficiency perspective:

View attachment 472461

Might be time to start selling my 5700XT GPUs, but they still churn out close to 1 GH/s and the efficiency is fair, so despite needing babysitting at least once a week, so I guess I'll hold on to them for now.
Just curious, from first image, your MJT is kinda high, and your fan is low? Is there a reason to keep fan that low?
 
Top