The NEC 20WMGX-BK is the European/UK version of the 20.1 inch AS-ISPS widescreen. It doesn't have HDCP compliance (don't think they use it there) and it doesn't have a TV tuner since UK TV is paid for by taxes on televisions (which the NEC monitor would be considered if it had a tuner). There are some other differences as well but its the same Philips panel
The 20WMGX came out before the 20WMGX2-BK North American version so a lot of early reviews online mention the 20WMGX so its gets confusing.
The BK of course just means the black version of the display (verses the silver/white or whatever it is)
Ugh, here the site goes again, listing two models, although it may just be in model name, I find it oddenough to request help on here:
- NEC 20" HDTV-Ready LCD/TV Monitor (20WMGX2)
- NEC 20" WIDE LCD/TV Monitor (20WMGX-BK)
They're exactly the same thing, just one is black rather than silver? But why only list the first one as HDTV-Ready? If you click on the second one, it actually shows the model number as having the 2 as well. So they're both HDTV-ready, no?
thanks wlee, but $550 in canada? i'm in canada. the lowest i've found them for is $605 cad from directcanada.
yes, i remember them being on sale for $599, and there was a $50 coupon as well online? i just wasn't ready to buy at the time. i guess i'll wait it out, thanks
if you don't mind me asking...
what do you think of the lcd? do you use it for gaming? design? i'm looking to use it strictly for gaming (ps3 and other consoles). is the glossy screen distracting? does the 1:1 pixel mapping work in all modes?
Does the relatively slow response time (compared with most TN panels) of the NEC monitor show itself much in fast-paced shooters? I want this display, for gaming only, but the response time is putting me off...
Relatively slow?? It is 6 ms. That is all of 4ms slower then the fastest TN panel out there. Not to mention if you check out the reviews for it performs as well as most 2ms panels Not sure if that means the NEC was under speced or if the 2ms panels were over speced but either way i have not seen anyone having any issues with teh response time.
That silver on black looks retarded.
in photo's it doesnt look that great but when your right infront of it, it looks alot better then just a all silver look, the black/silver adds to it and gives it more a bling look to it, specially when the screen is off and you see the dark black screen
I am also trying to decide between the NEC and the Dell 2007wfp. I recently had some problems with a Vista generic PnP driver and my old Dell 1702FP, so I was wondering if either of these monitors work well with Vista or if I really should wait awhile.
Yes, the NEC does 1:1 pixel mapping or aspect ratio scaling.
What follows is my extraction from the user manual at necdisplay.com
For PCI input this is the "Expansion" option in the OSD, only available in DVI-HD for use with DVD or other forms of HD input. Options are full (takes up full screen), Aspect (image is expanded while preserving aspect ration) or Off (image is not expanded - presumably 1:1).
For Video1 Video2 or TV input you have the choice of Normal (maintains aspect ratio), Wide (expanded to max horizontal width), Real (1:1), Zoom (keeps aspect ratio, expands to max of either horizontal or vertical. Picture may be cropped) or Custom (user can adjust horiz and vert expansion).
Yes, NEC should redesign the stand to support height adjustment and pivoting. There are lots of inputs though - are you asking for HDMI or multiple DVI-D, perhaps?
I love the NEC but if your just using monitor JUST for gaming I think its probably overkill. One good thing about gaming is that a cheaper monitor can do just as well or better than a more expensive one. For myself the NEC advantage was for photos and watching dvd's. If you have a half decent camera (even a point and shoot a couple years old) the detail and clarity can be startling on NEC.
I liked the rotation on my Dell stand but if you have a lot hooked up to it rotation is very hard anyway. I have 2 computers and a USB hooked up to NEC and I couldn't rotate it even if it could. There are always mounts if people really need the articulations.
The manual for the 20WGX2 (as opposed to the 20WMGX2 sold in the US) reads differently regarding control of pixel mapping and aspect ratio. I originally supposed Mansize_tissue to be interested in the 20WMGX2.
From the 20WGX2 manual:
EXPANSION: Selects the zoom mode.
FULL: The image is expanded to 1680 x 1050, regardless of the resolution.
ASPECT: The image is expanded without changing the aspect ratio.
OFF: The image is not expanded.
NOTE: EXPANSION is available only resolution under 1280 x 1024.
Note the limitation to resolutions under 1280x1024. Presumably Full and Aspect aren't available for higher resolutions - I'm not sure what this implies about 1:1.