NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

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Im looking to upgrade my old Haswell build (Rev1 M1) that used a Mini-DTX motherboard.
I would like to use something similar so that I still got access to a 1x16 and 1x1 Pci-E Slot.
It seems impossible to find such a size in a modern motherboard, anyone in here been able find one or even use one?

Ive found some Asrock B460M that is right at the height limit of 22.6cm but its probably way too wide with 18.8cm.

Is a current version of the M1 in any way wider inside, perhaps due to some rework?
Asus has a x570 mini-dtx 6.7” wide but its PRICEY
 

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Im looking to upgrade my old Haswell build (Rev1 M1) that used a Mini-DTX motherboard.
I would like to use something similar so that I still got access to a 1x16 and 1x1 Pci-E Slot.
It seems impossible to find such a size in a modern motherboard, anyone in here been able find one or even use one?

Ive found some Asrock B460M that is right at the height limit of 22.6cm but its probably way too wide with 18.8cm.

Is a current version of the M1 in any way wider inside, perhaps due to some rework?
The PSU precludes any board over 172mm depth or so from fitting. In V6+ the SFX bracket can be mounted at the front, freeing up room for a board ~240mm deep.
 

dmw5678

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Awsome thermals and on the NCASE M1 V6.1 with a 5950x on a Rog Crosshair Impact. All 5 fans are motherboard-controlled and dead silent after tunning. I have another M1 water cooled build and I am more impressed with the thermals on the air-cooled system.

Noctua NH-L12S - No fan on this CPU cooler
2 x 120 EX-Furious Varder EVO -- Side Mounted and controlled by the motherboard
2 x 140mm be quite! Silent wings 3 - Bottom mounted
1x 90mm Noctua NF-A9-14 HS-PWM - mounted on the outside of the case as an exhaust.

Idle to Normal daily workload
Motherboard 36c
CPU < 52c

CPU < 72c when stress-tested with AIDA64 for 30 minutes.
 

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Awsome thermals and on the NCASE M1 V6.1 with a 5950x on a Rog Crosshair Impact. All 5 fans are motherboard-controlled and dead silent after tunning. I have another M1 water cooled build and I am more impressed with the thermals on the air-cooled system.

Noctua NH-L12S - No fan on this CPU cooler
2 x 120 EX-Furious Varder EVO -- Side Mounted and controlled by the motherboard
2 x 140mm be quite! Silent wings 3 - Bottom mounted
1x 90mm Noctua NF-A9-14 HS-PWM - mounted on the outside of the case as an exhaust.

Idle to Normal daily workload
Motherboard 36c
CPU < 52c

CPU < 72c when stress-tested with AIDA64 for 30 minutes.
Are you undervolted?

How fast and loud are those fans?
 

dmw5678

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Are you undervolted?

How fast and loud are those fans?
No, I have not undervolted the CPU. However, I do plan to undervolt in order to give more headroom before these fans spin up above 2000. The Ex-Furious fans spin from 700~3000 PWM = 107 CFM @ 42 DBA. You can hear them when the processer is pushed and the fans spin above 1500 buts it's not overbearing for me at least, more of an air/wind sound and minor hum of the bearings. I can feel strong air coming from the top of the case when above 1300RPM. I think any fan with strong static pressure and high CFM will work in an air-cooled NCASE M1 due to the proximity of the side fans to the motherboard and power supply. I did slide the side-mounted Furies as far back to the rear of the case as possible. This reduced the temps a couple of degrees as the front-mounted fan clips the cooler and ram . For reference, the Noctua NF-A9-14 HS -PWM has more of an annoying whine when > 1800RPM (500~2200RPM @ < 20DBA). I may remove this rear fan, as it does not seem to affect temps at all when it's powered on.

What I like about this setup over my older NCASE 5.0 build with a Kraken X52 is the fact it is dumping cool air over the entire case vs the warm air from the radiator heating up my motherboard and NVME hard drives.
 

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Awsome thermals and on the NCASE M1 V6.1 with a 5950x on a Rog Crosshair Impact. All 5 fans are motherboard-controlled and dead silent after tunning. I have another M1 water cooled build and I am more impressed with the thermals on the air-cooled system.

Noctua NH-L12S - No fan on this CPU cooler
2 x 120 EX-Furious Varder EVO -- Side Mounted and controlled by the motherboard
2 x 140mm be quite! Silent wings 3 - Bottom mounted
1x 90mm Noctua NF-A9-14 HS-PWM - mounted on the outside of the case as an exhaust.

Idle to Normal daily workload
Motherboard 36c
CPU < 52c

CPU < 72c when stress-tested with AIDA64 for 30 minutes.
How'd you pull that off? I've tested 5950X and 5900X and in cine or gaming both will hit 75C+. I have to temp limit there to keep under 83C using C14S with Noctua top fan with direct contact. You are using NO fan on your cooler? What GPU are you using?
 

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How'd you pull that off? I've tested 5950X and 5900X and in cine or gaming both will hit 75C+. I have to temp limit there to keep under 83C using C14S with Noctua top fan with direct contact. You are using NO fan on your cooler? What GPU are you using?
I am not using a fan on this CPU Cooler as I wanted to see if the side-mounted case fans could provide enough airflow. I am using the motherboard to control the side fans that blow on the cooler. I have not tried to overclock, so everything is at stock settings. I do not believe this setup could handle any type of overclocking anyway.

When my CPU temps go up, so do the side fans. These fans push 107 CFM and keep the temps in check for my daily usage. I hear a minor hum and a bunch of air pushing thru the case when the system is pushed. My PC sits about 4 feet away and below my desk. I did tweak the fan profile on this Asus motherboard as follows
0 to 60c Spin @ 50% approx 1500RPM
60c to 72c ramp up to 80%
> 72c Max

Unfortunately, I had to raid the parts bin for this build. I am currently using a 1080TI. When a 3080TI hits BestBuy I will grab one and retest temps or maybe try a custom water loop, but definitely not going the AIO water cooling solution for this build.
 
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I am not using a fan on this CPU Cooler as I wanted to see if the side-mounted case fans could provide enough airflow. I am using the motherboard to control the side fans that blow on the cooler. I have not tried to overclock, so everything is at stock settings. I do not believe this setup could handle any type of overclocking anyway.

When my CPU temps go up, so do the side fans. These fans push 107 CFM and keep the temps in check for my daily usage. I hear a minor hum and a bunch of air pushing thru the case when the system is pushed. My PC sits about 4 feet away and below my desk. I did tweak the fan profile on this Asus motherboard as follows
0 to 60c Spin @ 50% approx 1500RPM
60c to 72c ramp up to 80%
> 72c Max

Unfortunately, I had to raid the parts bin for this build. I am currently using a 1080TI. When a 3080TI hits BestBuy I will grab one and retest temps or maybe try a custom water loop, but definitely not going the AIO water cooling solution for this build.

I don't even know how this is possible. Maybe your load is different. I run a pretty aggressive fan profile to keep mine in check and that's with a C14S. I'm also doing rear intake. What temps you get in cinebench?
 

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I don't even know how this is possible. Maybe your load is different. I run a pretty aggressive fan profile to keep mine in check and that's with a C14S. I'm also doing rear intake. What temps you get in cinebench?

I have started to play around with settings in this Asus utility, so here is a fresh run of Cinebench. During this run, I had about 20 apps open and around 30 web pages open on my desktop using about 38 gigs of ram prior to running this Cinebench utility and I still have full control of my mouse and keyboard. Processor is a beast. The picture below is the last run and post-run of Cinebebch. Also, slightly shifted the side fans to the back of the case. Next up reduce the psu/fan cable clutter




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Someone end my indecisiveness and pick which aftermarket feet I should replace the stock rubbers with.

Preferably if everyone would agree on the same ones that would be great, heh.
 

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Someone end my indecisiveness and pick which aftermarket feet I should replace the stock rubbers with.

Preferably if everyone would agree on the same ones that would be great, heh.
Which version NCASE?

I don't have an answer for but but curious what you decide on :D
 

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Which version NCASE?

I don't have an answer for but but curious what you decide on :D
Version 6.1 Kudos to all who worked on making this case better over time. I only needed to make a slight dimple mod on the back of the rubber feet to be able to flush mount them after installing 140mm fans at the bottom.
 
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Just installed two Phanteks T30 fans in my NCASE. These are really good fans and worth every penny. You will not regret purchasing these fans for an air-cooled NCASE. Improved my temps and reduced the noise level when above 2000RPM. I can only knock them for the bulky power cable arrangement.
 
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