Musk to cut half of Twitter jobs and end remote work for the rest, report says

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Advertisers do not like hate speech, which RWNJ / MAGAts confuse with Free Speech.
Haha and of course the persecution complex squad immediately mobilizes right after this post

Like y'all know you can go register joebidenisacuck.org and post whatever AM radio horse shit you want. Or maybe bask in the glorious radiance of the free market and enjoy yourself some Truth Social.
 

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Let's not get too excited gentlemen. The ADL has told a man that just came off his own money what they "expect" and he has already given into their demands. No "election denial" will be allowed. To me, that is enough to tell the tale. If you cannot question the outcome of an election, it is not a free speech platform. Why does the ADL have the power to tell the richest man in the world what they "expect" from him? Also, look for muh hate speech to include "misgendering" going forward. Nope.

For the record, "hate speech" is clearly free speech.
 
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twitter will go away eventually and be close to worthless. honestly not sure why somebody would pay 44 billion for it. it doesn't make anything...
Well Elon didn't have a choice, he trolled them and Twitter trolled him back harder, so now he's stuck with it, and to sweeten the deal he owes billions to Saudi oil princes.
I expect him to somehow crypto and blockchain Twitter and turn it into a Crypto Bro haven as he now knows he can't rely on legit advertisers.
 

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Our Canadian Gov funded news today... is reporting the Canadian gov is suspending advertising on Twitter. Really don't ask me why our government needs to be buying ads at all for anything. (they have had I think like 5 different advertising related scandals now enriching friends advert companies ect).

So Twitter was selling blue checks for 15k in advertising dollars... makes me wonder what the Canadian government was really buying. (we all know)
 

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Ha! Jokes on them if you don't turn a profit you don't pay income tax!
4 million a day in losses...
Twitter is a fantastic write off for other companies. Musk needs to make Telsa/SpaceX/Twitter all one company. hahaha
 

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Naa, I'd say AT&T buying DirecTV for $49 billion ($67 billion including debt). Then spinning it off to its own company.
You could put a lot of AT&T Purchases up there, I'd put the time Warner up as a bigger oof though.

yes someone finally out did ibm and their 34Billion for RedHat
I actually think that was a good purchase for them.
 

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Let's not get too excited gentlemen. The ADL has told a man that just came off his own money what they "expect" and he has already given into their demands. No "election denial" will be allowed. To me, that is enough to tell the tale. If you cannot question the outcome of an election, it is not a free speech platform. Why does the ADL have the power to tell the richest man in the world what they "expect" from him? Also, look for muh hate speech to include "misgendering" going forward. Nope.

For the record, "hate speech" is clearly free speech.
I can't imagine why the pedophiles at the ADL would want to control Twitter.
 

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Lol?!?!!1
The brief ElonTwitter era has revealed something... the right HATES markets and the marketplace of ideas. There have been ZERO calls from anyone for the government to intervene in Musk's little 4chan experiment with a major platform. Censored liberal sanctuary my ass...
People and advertisers have simply said they want no part of that shit. Like... it's straight up Adam Smith "invisible hand" stuff. What the GOP previously used to jerk off to.

Funny thing is you now have leftists going "free market bruh, I thought this is what you wanted." Turns out free market isn't what they wanted.
Right and Left tend to agree against Liberals about capitalism to a point and so on, but it become a bit more complicated when the mobile store, AWS server and anti-DDOS service goes out if the disagree with speech that occur on a platform.

There is obviously a giant collision and impossibility to have free speech and capitalism at the same time (has like people, company does not have to respect other people speech, they can give speech a cost and consequence, thus stopping to make it free), it is always just an ideal, like the right to pursuit happiness.

And on twitter side, the moment goverment make people testimony in front of congress and that both political party openly use the treat of destroying their business model by removing section 230, we get out of the idea that it is just free market force going on
 

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People who don't realize that hate speech is free speech don't know what free speech is. There was a time when leftists claimed to understand this.

This is not an endorsement of hate speech. But there's no need to protect uncontroversial speech.
Exactly. I’m not a fan of hate speech, but it is free speech. I also hate the people preaching tolerance who are intolerant of people who are intolerant. Some people are just in their own little world…
 
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People who don't realize that hate speech is free speech don't know what free speech is. There was a time when leftists claimed to understand this.

There used to be a saying: "I don't agree with what you're saying, but I will defend your right to say it."

Now it's: "I don't agree with what you're saying, so I will do everything in my power to have you silenced, deplatformed, shamed, your livelihood taken from you, and your life ruined."
 

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Exactly. I’m not a fan of hate speech, but it is free speech. I also hate the people preaching tolerance who are intolerant of people who are intolerant. Some people are just in their own little world…
“There’s only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people’s cultures and the Dutch.” "intolerant" triggered it....

hate speech is free speech, people should just walk away and let it die
 

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The advertisers will come back. Slowly, quietly, once the stupidity quiets down. They want access to those potential customers. If the kill all white people real hate speech did not scare them off, the odd ball stuff the left makes believe is hate speech the will not either.
If the person did not have a job that generated wealth, or supported generating those who did, Elon was right to can them. He appears to have been generous as well. The WARN act only requires 60 days, not 90.

Elon caved to the ADL, because they can turn off his ability to bank. Ask Kanye.
 

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“There’s only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people’s cultures and the Dutch.” "intolerant" triggered it....

hate speech is free speech, people should just walk away and let it die
Hate speech is like a child having a tantrum. It’s only effective if people engage with it. Like a child sent to their room, hate speech dies when the other side doesn’t fight back. Disengage long enough and it moves back to the slow simmer that is the cesspool of low lives and racists.
 
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Also, a lot of people have redefined hate speech to mean "stuff I don't want to hear."
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I thought this was very fitting.
 

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Exactly. I’m not a fan of hate speech, but it is free speech. I also hate the people preaching tolerance who are intolerant of people who are intolerant. Some people are just in their own little world…

so these forums aren't free speech compliant?
 

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wow, so it's not a government agency - that sounds eerily familiar to a certain bird company
 

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If you read the rules, you’d know they aren’t.
It's a relatively bad faith interpretation of freedom of speech, if you ask me. All speech, particularly online, falls under some sort of jurisdiction somewhere. With that in mind, freedom of speech doesn't exist at all if you view it through the lense of that loophole. The recent case with Kiwifarms makes this obvious. It's worsened by the fact that the line between private and public is extremely blurry. Private companies love to cooperate with the government. With that in mind, the distinction between public and private becomes superficial relatively quick and makes it convenient to sweep any thoughtful, critical discussion in with "rulebreaking", "trolling", "Russian bots", etc.
 

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Oh this went soapboxy very fast

Back on track...I hear hes now trying to get people back that were fired
Ha

What a dick
 

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Likely due to incredibly poor management of said people that had no idea what they really did. Management of the rehired folks are likely to be canned.
Not necessarily. Musk is nothing if not an impulsive man who makes sweeping decisions he has to (at least partly) reverse as his dreams clash with reality. See the whole "free speech utopia" myth we've been discussing here. It's entirely possible that he had grand visions of a lean headcount, only to realize that Twitter actually hired those people for a reason.

Remember, Musk either started his other companies or came in when they were relatively small, like Tesla. He's never walked into a large, established company before.
 

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People who don't realize that hate speech is free speech don't know what free speech is.

We know speech is speech.

What people do not know, is that free speech doesn't mean that the newspaper/Youtube/[H]/Twitter/Facebook/etc. have to let you say anything you want on their platforms. That violates the companies' rights.
The right being all up in arms about free speech, really just want to make you parrot "their speech" in the name of "free speech". I don't have to say shit, nor does my hypothetical company.

Kind of like how they use religious freedom as an excuse to violate anothers' right to freedom of religion. Hypocrisy.
 
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What an idiot. Advertisers don’t take kindly to being held hostage when Twitter is - let’s face it - one of hundreds of competing advertising channels, and one of the comparatively smaller ones. Now Musk is going to spend most of his time slowly wrecking a social media train wreck while Tesla - a company that actually needs his leadership - is struggling to get product out while competitors are looming left and right.

At least SpaceX has a decent leadership team.
 

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You think this is the problem? Take off your blinders.



Why? Someone censor's lies/hate and says not on my platform/business... That's, well, their business. NO platform has to let you say whatever the fuck you want 'because free speech!'. None.



Lol?!?!!1
The brief ElonTwitter era has revealed something... the right HATES markets and the marketplace of ideas. There have been ZERO calls from anyone for the government to intervene in Musk's little 4chan experiment with a major platform. Censored liberal sanctuary my ass...
People and advertisers have simply said they want no part of that shit. Like... it's straight up Adam Smith "invisible hand" stuff. What the GOP previously used to jerk off to.

Funny thing is you now have leftists going "free market bruh, I thought this is what you wanted." Turns out free market isn't what they wanted.
The right is implicitly demanding government intervention to control oil prices as well, which seems very socialist. I don't see Exxon volunteering to take a hit on behalf of motorists.
The right has always been about capitalism up until the precise moment capitalism is inconvenient, at which point they become communist until capitalism is the convenient choice for them again.

Almost like the party has 0 principles or convictions and it’s just self serving greed disguised as an ideology...


100% agree with this despite being a registered Republican myself.
 

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The addicting nature is bad take away everyone's phones for a day see what happens. Everytime I go into the Walmart lunch room everyone is cramming on their phones. The path of least resistance.

Every time I see what you have described, I can't help but to see "The Walking Dead" and they put a phone in every zombies hand. That would be the perfect description of today.

When I was a kid we had one phone in the house and it was in the kitchen with a 20ft curly cord and when it would ring we all screamed it's your turn to answer it. Now people don't take a crap with out their phones.

But I digress.
 
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