Monitors without glow, tint...

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Subj. I try to find any models without glow, tint...luminescence, radiance and shine :)
I mean, such monitors (IPS and their variants only), in which these effects are not very noticeable and explicit. My goal is a good black without loss of details and shades of gray (in dark room). I found EIZO FlexScan EV2736WFS, but it's very expensive for me. And i think, in the new models of iMac Retina glow and tint effects are also minimized. But I really can't find alternatives in the price range up to $700.Do they exist? My other preferences: 2k resolution, 24-27 inch glossy screen.
Are there any ways to improve black and dark shades (Attaching special film, etc)?
 

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You can use bias lighting behind the monitor to enhance perceived contrast. Outside of that... you basically want tech that doesn't exist yet, at least not at this price point. OLED would be perfect but costs 3x+ more minimum.
 
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bias lighting
How it can help me with dark scenes? Also, i read that bias can harm eyesight.
you basically want tech that doesn't exist yet
How about a-tw polarizers in some models like EIZO EV2736WFS? But it costs more than $800 in my counrty.
 

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I have a Planar PX2611w IPS LCD monitor with an A-TW polarizer. It's not a magic bullet. Is it better? Yes, better than the average IPS. Not much better than one that's been built well with minimal backlight bleed, though.

As for bias lighting damaging your eyesight, no, it will not -- it's just a light behind the screen, it's no more damaging than looking at the screen directly. By brightening things behind and around the screen your brain interprets the screen itself as having higher contrast, so dark scenes look less gray. It's not perfect, but it's cheap (kits can be had for $20 or so last I checked) and is worth considering.
 

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Planar PX2611w IPS LCD monitor with an A-TW polarizer.
Are there any current models (in selling) with this or a similar technology?
it's just a light behind the screen
Is it just white line of leds? No perimeter line, no rgb (as ambilight), just white backlight?
 

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According to tftcentral.co.uk Samsung will release something similar to A-TW polarizer:

LTM240CL07 panel. This is a 24" PLS (IPS-type) technology module, with 1920 x 1200 resolution. This particular panel has a wide gamut Adobe RGB colour space coverage, and Samsung also list it with a "retardation pol" option. This is similar to the old A-TW polarizer made popular by LG.Display quite some years ago, and designed to help minimise IPS-glow on dark content. You don't see those used very often so it's interesting to see it listed as an option.
 

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Are there any current models (in selling) with this or a similar technology?

Is it just white line of leds? No perimeter line, no rgb (as ambilight), just white backlight?

The most basic kits are just 1 or 2 strips of white LEDs, yes. I've seen more complex kits with RGB LEDs and USB connections / software to match the prevailing color on screen -- like done on some televisions.
 

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VA displays are not solution? I hear very little about the problems with them in recent years.Why they are not used everywhere? High Contrast solves the problem, as I understand it.
 

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VA displays are not solution? I hear very little about the problems with them in recent years.Why they are not used everywhere? High Contrast solves the problem, as I understand it.
they are ubiquitous in the high end television market. i don't really know why they aren't used more often in monitors. they are for the most part on par with IPS, their only real drawback is that certain color transitions are very slow.
 

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The thing I hate most is IPS glow, or backlight bleeding from TNs and even some VA panels have it. At least with VA panels , you can always find some many that do not have it. I got this new monitor HKC X3, did you take a look at my review?
The dark black 0.0226 blacks /5312:1 contrast ratio produces none of that. My HKC X3 144hz 1ms hi contrast VA panel is in! The price is very good. .but you will need to do a little bit of work and hassle. I say it was worth it.
 

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they are ubiquitous in the high end television market. i don't really know why they aren't used more often in monitors. they are for the most part on par with IPS, their only real drawback is that certain color transitions are very slow.
Black crush isn't real problem?
 

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Not with high-end modern VA panels. Some are better than others, of course.
Can you give me some examples of such panels, please? Does it mean, that now VA is rather than IPS?
 

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The problem with VA is that it's not offered in higher pixel densities with few exceptions. For example, I prefer 27" 16:9. Would go smaller, but less variety below 27". At that size, VA is limited to 1080p, whereas IPS/TN both go to 1440p and 4k. And since I cannot stand TN, it's IPS for me. But if VA were available in higher resolutions, I would have stuck with it.
 

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Can you give me some examples of such panels, please? Does it mean, that now VA is rather than IPS?

There are no VA panels that meet your criteria of 24"-27" and 2k resolution. Smallest 2k VA is 31.5". And the only modern glossy VA I'm aware of is a Samsung AIO.
 

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The problem with VA is that it's not offered in higher pixel densities with few exceptions. For example, I prefer 27" 16:9. Would go smaller, but less variety below 27". At that size, VA is limited to 1080p, whereas IPS/TN both go to 1440p and 4k. And since I cannot stand TN, it's IPS for me. But if VA were available in higher resolutions, I would have stuck with it.

You can get a 3440x1440 34" 21:9 from Samsung that's a VA, and that's basically a 2560x1440 27" 16:9 with extra "wings" on the sides. That's an outler, of course.
 

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You can get a 3440x1440 34" 21:9 from Samsung that's a VA, and that's basically a 2560x1440 27" 16:9 with extra "wings" on the sides. That's an outler, of course.
On top of that, there are a slew of 40" 4K VA screens with pixel densities of 110 PPi. I love mine.
 

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You can get a 3440x1440 34" 21:9 from Samsung that's a VA, and that's basically a 2560x1440 27" 16:9 with extra "wings" on the sides. That's an outler, of course.

If he has the desk space and can tolerate letterboxing, this is the closest he'll get to what he wants.

On top of that, there are a slew of 40" 4K VA screens with pixel densities of 110 PPi. I love mine.

And how does that fit within the OP's desired 24"-27" panel size?
 

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There are no VA panels that meet your criteria of 24"-27" and 2k resolution. Smallest 2k VA is 31.5". And the only modern glossy VA I'm aware of is a Samsung AIO.
2K is 1080p. please stop perpetuating the misuse of this term.
 

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2K is 1080p. please stop perpetuating the misuse of this term.

Yeah... I really hate the '4K' naming scheme. it's way easier to say, but people get all confused. This is why I want to switch over to 'HD' names.

FHD = 1080P = 2K

QHD = 1440p = 2.5K

UHD = 2160p = 4K

UHD+ =2880p = 5K

SHV = 4320p = 8K
 

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I found one very beautiful monitor (central panel). Black is really black, even on photo. Can anyone help me to recognize the model name?
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That's one of the new LG OLED panels with HDR looks like its curved a little bit, but again hard to see. The model # for the curved one is
  • OLED55C6P

in other words its a $3,000 display, and while its great for multimedia things, being that its a TV it does have 30-40ms worth of lag in "game mode", but if you're not doing anything competitive it'd be a boss display for a monitor.
 

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Oh, thanks. Unfortunately, it is very expensive for me. I will look for other options.
 
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