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I really don't consider turning off a TV (or letting it turn itself off when not in use based on Windows Power settings) 1 time every 8 hours as babysitting.
Yes, it takes insane predictive time management skills, such as turning off the lights from time to time when you leave a room.
Lol 7440 huh. That would last me another 3 years. So the thing could last 4-5 years which would be longer than I have ever run a display on my pc. Think the record goes to an asus 34" 3440x1440 100hz ultrawide at 3.5 years.
Switching between both, actually.
I would wait to see how it actually performs but otherwise I might. I have gotten used to the 48" but it's still a large screen and the 42" might be a better sweet spot and would also be easier to pair with a side monitor. In my current setup I have to put my Genelec speakers on the very edge of my desk to get them next to the screen rather than in front of it.
If you get the QN90A, definitely let us know how it compares to the CX. In another thread here, one member said that he bought a C1 and returned it. Some time afterwards, he ended up buying a QN90A and claims that blacks on it were just as black as the C1. I am extremely skeptical of that and you've had way more time with your CX by now, so I'd be very curious to know how the QN90A stacks up against the LG OLED TVs in that regard as well as all other aspects. Not that I am looking to make the switch; I just keep hearing that the newer top-end LCDs are extremely good and I'd like to know if the best of them can indeed match or beat an OLED. I don't doubt at all that some of them are very good, but I've never gotten anywhere close to OLED blacks from an LCD. I also haven't used a high-end LCD since Samsung's 2015 quantum dot flagship, though, and I figure that things may have changed a bit since then.My living room vizio M low density FALD VA tv from late 2015 is on the way out, dying, so I am going to replace it by xmas.
As much as I would love a huge OLED in the living room, I don't think the usage scenario is there for it. It can be a brightly lit room at times with a large/picture window, but mostly I can't rely on or put the expectation on other people to not fall asleep with static material on the screen or leave youtube paused forgetting about it, to be religious about using the "turn of the screen" trick when they are afk every single time, and other safe use practices I use on my 48 CX - so I'd always be concerned in the back of my mind.. At my pc, it's just me in control of the usage practices and I also generally don't fall asleep at my pc.
Considering that, I'm probably going to buy the best reasonable FALD VA that compares to OLED which is currently the QN90A Neo "QLED" (75" version). It only has one hdmi 2.1 120hz VRR port but that's enough for one console or one pc so should be good enough if I ever get a PS5 or if I ever decide to run a pc hdmi 2.1 gpu's cable to the big tv someday. I don't think the tv does 24hz content x5 on the 120hz port for movies by default (not certain) .. but if it did I could just use a hdmi 2.1 console for streaming apps or whenever a hdmi 2.1 nvidia shield gets released. You could use the smart tv versions if they worked well enough but notably the ethernet port on the samsung is 10/100 and not gigabit though.. just like the LG OLED's ethernet..
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/qn90a-qled
I've got a Q90R which is a few models old now, and the blacks are definitely black... as long as there is nothing around it. If you view a dark scene head-on, the blacks look very deep, but if you view it off-angle, those blacks turn decidedly grey. What's worse is that in dark scenes, the picture was very washed out and overly dark. This is obviously not an issue with OLED as each point of brightness is setup exactly as it should be.
I have that same issue with the Sharp AQUOS that's in the bedroom. It is extremely difficult to make out detail in dark scenes. I attributed that to the fact that it's an older panel though; probably from ~2005-2007 or so. Sucks that's still an issue. I'm really looking forward to replacing it with an OLED or some other type of display but the thing just keeps on working. It's been a great set in terms of reliability.
My living room vizio M low density FALD VA tv from late 2015 is on the way out, dying, so I am going to replace it by xmas.
As much as I would love a huge OLED in the living room, I don't think the usage scenario is there for it. It can be a brightly lit room at times with a large/picture window, but mostly I can't rely on or put the expectation on other people to not fall asleep with static material on the screen or leave youtube paused forgetting about it, to be religious about using the "turn of the screen" trick when they are afk every single time, and other safe use practices I use on my 48 CX - so I'd always be concerned in the back of my mind.. At my pc, it's just me in control of the usage practices and I also generally don't fall asleep at my pc.
Considering that, I'm probably going to buy the best reasonable FALD VA that compares to OLED which is currently the QN90A Neo "QLED" (75" version). It only has one hdmi 2.1 120hz VRR port but that's enough for one console or one pc so should be good enough if I ever get a PS5 or if I ever decide to run a pc hdmi 2.1 gpu's cable to the big tv someday. I don't think the tv does 24hz content x5 on the 120hz port for movies by default (not certain) .. but if it did I could just use a hdmi 2.1 console for streaming apps or whenever a hdmi 2.1 nvidia shield gets released. You could use the smart tv versions if they worked well enough but notably the ethernet port on the samsung is 10/100 and not gigabit though.. just like the LG OLED's ethernet..
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/qn90a-qled
I don't want a cheap screen. I want the closest to OLED I can get quality wise as I intend on keeping the TV for a handful of years.
The burn in is the worry on the OLED in the living room and on such a higher priced screen b/c my wife honestly does not want to give a fuck about burn in on a tv and her screen care etiquette will reflect that.
Then I am the polar opposite of that - taking extra care that some people who more or less wing it don't even bother to do.
The black areas will be black like you said but Zones will always have to offset against each other with whatever the firmware's bias is compared to per pixel emissive OLED. OLED just doesn't seem like it would be a good bet for my shared living room viewing. As far as viewing angles goes, I'm the most critical and I'm almost always sitting in the middle of the couch watching head on. Sitting off center is also bad for surround sound.
Rtings Review:
So there are some major tradeoffs but still seems like the best option vs OLED currently.
More from Rtings:
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It might not be until closer to xmas because I want to flip my whole room around and put couch on the opposite wall Moving the surround system and other things in the living room is going to be a pita. I'd actually like to rip the carpet out and put a new floor in at some point actually.
The majority is not in brightly lit room. We often watch tv in the evening and after the sun goes down and blinds are pulled we just use bias lighting behind he tv and maybe a side floor lamp or two, each in line with the wall the tv is near. That or lights out except for the soft bias light behind the tv. However there are times we are viewing in the daytime where the blinds aren't drawn, especially weekends so it is bright then (especially in the summer).
I don't want a cheap screen. I want the closest to OLED I can get quality wise as I intend on keeping the TV for a handful of years.
The burn in is the worry on the OLED in the living room and on such a higher priced screen b/c my wife honestly does not want to give a fuck about burn in on a tv and her screen care etiquette will reflect that.
Essentially we both have concerns about burn in but coming from different mindsets. She doesn't want to have to worry about a glass cannon and I want to take extra care with all of my electronics.
The 5yr best buy warranty which covers burn in on the 77" LG OLED is $625 so it's not as appealing as when I got the warranty on the 48" CX to me either. It takes a $2999+tax ($3225) 77" OLED which is just above my ~ $3k window I wanted and ends up being $3850 after tax with the warranty.
So I see a few options:
....Get a 77" OLED with no warranty and end up nitpicking my wife's viewing habits which she would feel she shouldn't have to give a fuck about on a tv.... then if it actually burned in It would be a case where I'd be pissed off that it got burn in and I would end up thinking she is to blame. Meanwhile she'd be pissed off that I bought a susceptible to burn-in screen for $3300 to start with so would feel that I am to blame (which really wouldn't be wrong ultimately).
....prevent catastrophe by biting the bullet and sucking up the + ~$625 warranty cost for peace of mind. <<<<<<
.... Get the best FALD tv I can get in the same near $3k price range and never really have to consider burn in.
The 75" samsung is in the price neighborhood that the LG 77" OLED is... about $200 cheaper sticker price. Sans warranty the samsung comes out to be $3010 after tax while the LG C1 OLED with warranty after tax is $3850.
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Incidentally, my oculus quest (1) just died after 2 years so was outside of warranty. I went through all the support ticket agent's recommended steps but the unit is bricked, stuck on the boot screen oculus icon - so they left me holding a dead unit. I had bought the $450 model that had higher memory and had spent probably another $200 - $250 on quality of life peripherals .. headstrap, different face shields for exercise and padded pillowcase covered ones for other gaming, controller covers, etc etc. plus vr specific games. Now I'm stuck with a brick. The quest warranty is only 1 yr (2 years in UK), so if it dies on you it's bascially a pricey disposable. This left a very bad taste in my mouth about 1 yr warranties.
The LG C1 is also only a 1 yr warranty by default. The higher Tier LG's have a 5 yr warranty but that is probably at least as much as the best buy one I'm guessing in the overall price. Yeah, just checked and the 77" G1 is $4000 + tax (~ $4350).
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I'll mull it over some more and discuss it with the wife. I might want to spring for OLED + warranty because otherwise either way (samsung fald vs non-warrantied OLED) I'd be making compromises that I am not happy with. It would take the pricing up a good tier higher than I had wanted to spend amongst all of my other purchases this year though. Maybe I'm just being stubborn about the ~ $3000 price point.
We have a 70" tv now and we don't want to downgrade size wise to 65" either. Modern tv lines force you into a higher pricing tier for 75" - 77" models since they don't offer a 70".
OLED brightness is the actual brightness of the screen. The higher it is the higher the chance of burn in due to static images.
I do notice the tinting towards the edges but thats just because at a sitting distance, the edges are at an angle.
