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Guess it depends on what you mean by "level". My 6800xt plays my library just as well as a 3080 would.
Not with ray tracing.
For AMD to be "on par" it has to be at least 5% faster in every game and no losses while being cheaper....
Wouldn't know. I think in my 300+ game library maybe 1 or 2 games use it well enough that I'd consider paying more for it.
I have a total of two games that have Ray Tracing: Control, and CP2077. And I wouldn't say either make me feel like I want to pay nVidia for the pleasure.
Those are pretty much the only 2 titles I ever see given to show the merits of RT. Yes, even on this very forum.
In a lot of ways, CP2077 has become the new "Crysis". It's just no one says: "But can it run CP2077?" However that's essentially how it's taken, as if it is a remotely useful metric. And frankly it just isn't.
Yeah, Control seems to be the golden standard atm. We'll see if this generation of RT finally expands that to more games.
Metro: Exodus Enhanced Edition is the golden standard, since it is purely ray traced. Control is still hybrid rasterization+ray tracing.
Huh? Is it? Never knew. People only talk about the ray tracing, and talk about it a lot more than Metro.
It did seem to kind of fly under the radar. Digital Foundry did a pretty good deep dive on it.
Lies. Most big new games come with raytracing, and your 6800xt has no DLSS plus suffers at 4k. Nice try.
Any project done in Unreal or Unity right now is raytraced as default, other engines are making the same switch over raster is obviously sticking around for compatibility with the consoles and older PCs as the majority are still on GXT 1080ti and below.
Control uses Northlight, Remedy's own engine. I can't find anything that says it was derived from Unreal Engine. Northlight does seem very well optimized.
How is it a lie? I said my library. You claim to know what that is?
A bit on in details of what is going on:
So far RDNA hasn't. We shall see.
I would like that to be true but AMD has told investors that as they expect fewer sales due to lower demand they want to try and hold if not increase their margin upwards, it currently sits at 55%
True by thinking about it, they also have a nice option to not have the 800xt version be close to the 900xt and 950xt and could rise the price and lower the 800xt performance versus the top end.
I would rather AMD just come out ignoring the 4080 and 4090 cards and instead put out stuff that beats out the 3060-3090ti in every measurable metric.
Thanks. I learned something today. Glad to see someone is capable of making things that make sense outside of Epic. As great as Unreal is, I dislike Epic in general as a company.
You need an upgrayeddBut....to be fair.....when was the last time you turned on RT and your jaw dropped........and not just from the performance hit
While RT is nice, in the end, it's also very preliminary and the Dev's aren't sure what to do with it yet because almost nobody (yet) can run it's features "acceptably".
I've seen a few games with RT turned on, it looks like someone jacked up the gamma curve so black became 'grey'......then I play a "simple" game like Forza Horizon 5 which is not using RT and I'm blown away by how good the world, cars, reflections, lighting looks...and I go "Am I really missing anything *yet*?"
Honestly, I'm still pissed that in 2022 I'm still seeing LOD pop-ins....nothing like watching a field of plants suddenly bloom to life in front of me, or seeing flat ground textures turn to grass in 3rd person or 1st person shooters.....fixing that, to me, is hella more important than RT when its clear the 40 series is literally the first generation that makes it even viable. And viable in that "Level 1" way, like we're still at the Rotary Corded phone days. 5 years from now, we'll advance to push buttons ........
My .02 "holy crap is this off topic" centz....with a z.....for attitude
Nvidia's data center product is an entirely different platform in this generation. Plus, Nvidia usually launches their data center product first anyway.
Lol the 7th one is the funniest because "It's enough Vram, stop worrying" was Ampere in a nutshell.
Should have a USB-C connector for DP alt mode that will never get used for a monitor but instead an AMD-branded banana cleaner that straps to your desk.
Its the same die.
Forgot to capitalize the “E” for xTreme…But....to be fair.....when was the last time you turned on RT and your jaw dropped........and not just from the performance hit
While RT is nice, in the end, it's also very preliminary and the Dev's aren't sure what to do with it yet because almost nobody (yet) can run it's features "acceptably".
I've seen a few games with RT turned on, it looks like someone jacked up the gamma curve so black became 'grey'......then I play a "simple" game like Forza Horizon 5 which is not using RT and I'm blown away by how good the world, cars, reflections, lighting looks...and I go "Am I really missing anything *yet*?"
Honestly, I'm still pissed that in 2022 I'm still seeing LOD pop-ins....nothing like watching a field of plants suddenly bloom to life in front of me, or seeing flat ground textures turn to grass in 3rd person or 1st person shooters.....fixing that, to me, is hella more important than RT when its clear the 40 series is literally the first generation that makes it even viable. And viable in that "Level 1" way, like we're still at the Rotary Corded phone days. 5 years from now, we'll advance to push buttons ........
My .02 "holy crap is this off topic" centz....with a z.....for attitude
