Is it time to do something different? Ask for a merger?

Zero82z

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EVGA will take #1. Let's see how long they can hang onto it. [H] is a team that has longevity and that is far more than can be said for EVGA.
 

xx-Thor-xx

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EVGA will take #1. Let's see how long they can hang onto it. [H] is a team that has longevity and that is far more than can be said for EVGA.

Maybe, maybe not.. they have been around for a few years already we wont know what kind of longevity they have or had until they stop completely. Will they stay at this level of production forever? No of course they wont, but [H] probably wont stay this high either. I would wager they probably wont ever dip below 5mil ppd unless there is some sort of catastrophic forum breaking event over there or they end the bucks program.
 
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Maybe, maybe not.. they have been around for a few years already we wont know what kind of longevity they have or had until they stop completely. Will they stay at this level of production forever? No of course they wont, but [H] probably wont stay this high either. I would wager they probably wont ever dip below 5mil ppd unless there is some sort of catastrophic forum breaking event over there or they end the bucks program.

I think if they dropped the bucks program EVGA wouldnt drop below 6-8 million unless as you stated there was a catastrophic event. My reasoning is that so many people go to the forum with questions about the graphics cards or motherboards and eventually get interested with folding bc a lot of the helpful people over there are the ones that fold so the noobies get intrigued by the f@h badges and do some more research and join
 

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I think if they dropped the bucks program EVGA wouldnt drop below 6-8 million unless as you stated there was a catastrophic event. My reasoning is that so many people go to the forum with questions about the graphics cards or motherboards and eventually get interested with folding bc a lot of the helpful people over there are the ones that fold so the noobies get intrigued by the f@h badges and do some more research and join
i call bs, with all due respect
 

Zero82z

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I'm sure EVGA's production would still be very high even if the bucks program was stopped, but [H] would be able to outdo them for sure.
 
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i call bs, with all due respect

Well until it happens we will never know. I was speaking about the first year after the bucks program stops. We all know that over time people come and go for various reasons and there wont always be people to step in for them. Im sure after the race to 4 billion is over and evga takes number 1 both teams will see a significant drop in ppd. Probably around 1-3 million minimum per team

And I never said [H] wont outdo evga if the bucks program stopped. This is a really dedicated group of folders here and the ramp up has been amazing
 

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I was on a 2+ week vacation in France - best and longest vacation I've had in many many years.



Can I haz cheezburger?


Yes, here let me grill you one up real quick. Angus chopped steak with cheddar cheese, carmelized onions, tomatos, and lettuce.

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I was in France many years ago and I honestly didn't enjoy my time there. Paris is such a dirty city. I found myself enjoying London so much more. I hear that those nude beaches wern't what you thought they would be like :D

If you would like to take a break, you are welcome to change your team # over to 33. If not, we still have fun here as we are like what an uncensored folding forum should be like for folding addicts. We are folders gone wild! It is a nonstop party going on 24/7.
 

Tobit

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I'll buy Punchy and Parja each a Ratpadz and cheeseburgers if they do the deed. :)
 
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Man I didnt realize people were so cheap lol.
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That burger looks damn good. Now I know what ill be getting for dinner.
Thanks lol
 

Camaroz06

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I dunno, I've been thinking about it for a day or two and now I think even with EVGA bucks gone the EVGA folding team will be around for awhile putting out way more ppd than we put out. We just dont have the active #'s they do.

Dont forget our ppd #'s over the past month are pretty inflated, we have people folding under 33 that normally dont and we also have most our gear straining.
 

xx-Thor-xx

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I dunno, I've been thinking about it for a day or two and now I think even with EVGA bucks gone the EVGA folding team will be around for awhile putting out way more ppd than we put out. We just dont have the active #'s they do.

Dont forget our ppd #'s over the past month are pretty inflated, we have people folding under 33 that normally dont and we also have most our gear straining.

They only have about 100 more active folders than [H] according to the extreme overclocking stats pages.
 

Vaulter98c

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They will lose some ppd and drop down to our level, the big thing will be the lack of new folders, without anywhere near the advertising that bucks brings they'd have a serious slouch in new folders joining, and we all know more folders is the key to being the best, a few people can only carry a team so far
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xx-Thor-xx

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They will lose some ppd and drop down to our level, the big thing will be the lack of new folders, without anywhere near the advertising that bucks brings they'd have a serious slouch in new folders joining, and we all know more folders is the key to being the best, a few people can only carry a team so far
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Unless those people all have more than 5 SR2 rigs.. then they pretty much just carry the team the entire time lol. I wish I had an SR2 machine... must work overtime.
 

APOLLO

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I dunno, I've been thinking about it for a day or two and now I think even with EVGA bucks gone the EVGA folding team will be around for awhile putting out way more ppd than we put out. We just dont have the active #'s they do.
Active numbers only tell part of the tale. There's other factors to consider which aren't readily available such as average PPD per member, or average member tenure (duration of activity), etc. Each team is very different from another and how their members fold is as important, if not more, than how many fold at any given time.

Dont forget our ppd #'s over the past month are pretty inflated, we have people folding under 33 that normally dont and we also have most our gear straining.
I ain't straining and neither is Tiger. ;)
 

APOLLO

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They will lose some ppd and drop down to our level, the big thing will be the lack of new folders, without anywhere near the advertising that bucks brings they'd have a serious slouch in new folders joining, and we all know more folders is the key to being the best, a few people can only carry a team so far
I agree to a large extent, however, we must also understand one thing that I had mentioned recently in another thread. The longer they fold and the older their team gets, the greater the core of dedicated long-term folders grows. This nucleus is what drives every team further along in time regardless how many new folders join or fleeting folders flee. Thus, the more that get recruited by whatever means controversial or not, the larger this "committed for the long haul" core becomes, and the more staying power is accrued by their team.
 

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I agree to a large extent, however, we must also understand one thing that I had mentioned recently in another thread. The longer they fold and the older their team gets, the greater the core of dedicated long-term folders grows. This nucleus is what drives every team further along in time regardless how many new folders join or fleeting folders flee. Thus, the more that get recruited by whatever means controversial or not, the larger this "committed for the long haul" core becomes, and the more staying power is accrued by their team.

Yeah, that is what makes me think once we lose the lead...more than likely we wont get it back. I think it might be possible to trade 1st once or twice but eventually they'll pull away enough that unless catastrophe hits EVGA we wont be able to get it back.

And if that is the case we had our run and can be proud of that.

I agree with what Apollo says. People they recruit have created their community there and most likely they aren't going to be leaving. Unlike recently here how we have a good # of generous people from other teams/projects folding for us. Most likely they wont be sticking around since they have their teams and projects they are committed to and that is very understandable. And might as well throw my two cents in on the EVGA bucks thing while I'm at it. I think it is a cop-out to bring it up, and whine about the program. If anything when you look at F@H in general it is a positive thing. Even if the program was dropped I would believe that some people would stop folding/not fold as much but it adds to that core mentioned earlier that would fold on.

And on that a big thanks to those helping us over the past few weeks. It is very much appreciated that you took processing time away from your teams and causes to help us out.:)

Let me edit my above thought, when I said unlike here recently. I didnt mean anything bad about it, just that our numbers latley are a bit inflated since we have people from other teams helping us out.
 
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rcranfield

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I don't know if you can do a search for my remote past posts, but I mentioned not long after I joined this forum that you guys needed to start ramping up back then. I was pretty mich dismissed with EVGA being considered a non entity. Even though it is late in the game, you guys are going flat out to hold us off. Much credit is due. While I am not surprised you could boost production significantly, what does surprise me is the intensity of production on both teams.

There are no losers here, only winners since we all fold for the same reason. During these last 2 months, our 2 teams have produced an incredible amount of work for PG. While I am sure they are a little concerned about the tensions between our teams, they surely applaud the production.

As far as merging teams, or getting others to switch allegiance. Good luck with that. The comeptitive nature of folding creates such a team spirit among members of indiviual teams, it would be like asking Brett Farve to switch over to the Vikings (oh, bad example), OK, Like asking Randy Moss to switch to the Vikings (OK, FAIL there too.)

Keep up the great work, guys. And Punchy, I've got 2 cheese burgers and a large fry with a jumbo chocolate shake waiting for you. I have it packed in bubble wrap and packing peanuts since yesterday. I just need an address to ship it. Should be there by mid week next week if all goes well.
 

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I don't know if you can do a search for my remote past posts, but I mentioned not long after I joined this forum that you guys needed to start ramping up back then. I was pretty mich dismissed with EVGA being considered a non entity. Even though it is late in the game, you guys are going flat out to hold us off. Much credit is due. While I am not surprised you could boost production significantly, what does surprise me is the intensity of production on both teams.

There are no losers here, only winners since we all fold for the same reason. During these last 2 months, our 2 teams have produced an incredible amount of work for PG. While I am sure they are a little concerned about the tensions between our teams, they surely applaud the production.

As far as merging teams, or getting others to switch allegiance. Good luck with that. The comeptitive nature of folding creates such a team spirit among members of indiviual teams, it would be like asking Brett Farve to switch over to the Vikings (oh, bad example), OK, Like asking Randy Moss to switch to the Vikings (OK, FAIL there too.)

Keep up the great work, guys. And Punchy, I've got 2 cheese burgers and a large fry with a jumbo chocolate shake waiting for you. I have it packed in bubble wrap and packing peanuts since yesterday. I just need an address to ship it. Should be there by mid week next week if all goes well.

Forgot that..........i'll ship Punchy a White Castle crave case stuffed with cheeseburgers.

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Forgot that..........i'll ship Punchy a White Castle crave case stuffed with cheeseburgers.

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Vaulter98c

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Were Ohio guys lol
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You must be fro Around here somewhere. Where do you live?
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I live in Cincinnati, OH. White Castles is HUGE up here for some reason. I have to admit that those little slyders are addicting, although unfulfilling since you need to eat like 4-6 to feel satiated when you have that White Castle crave.

In fact, I think I will have White Castles for lunch in about 2 hours as now I just made myself hungry.
 

APOLLO

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And on that a big thanks to those helping us over the past few weeks. It is very much appreciated that you took processing time away from your teams and causes to help us out.:)

Let me edit my above thought, when I said unlike here recently. I didnt mean anything bad about it, just that our numbers latley are a bit inflated since we have people from other teams helping us out.
There's definitely a number of people folding for us from other teams temporarily. No doubts about that. It's hard to say how many, though, and even harder to gauge the amount of impact they had on our production. When we posted a thread thanking their contributions, there were some respondents but not as many as I would have imagined. Certainly some have not made themselves known.

I believe our ramp has been as much the effort of [H] team members adding their own resources new and old, in addition to temporary folders who have joined because of the giveaways who had not folded for any team prior. It all accumulated over the past couple of months. I'm expecting a drop off after the overtake, unfortunately, but our ramp should resume in earnest due to the change in seasons and to maintain production into the indefinite future. We'll see.
 

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I agree with everything you said there apollo
 

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There's definitely a number of people folding for us from other teams temporarily. No doubts about that. It's hard to say how many, though, and even harder to gauge the amount of impact they had on our production. When we posted a thread thanking their contributions, there were some respondents but not as many as I would have imagined. Certainly some have not made themselves known.

I believe our ramp has been as much the effort of [H] team members adding their own resources new and old, in addition to temporary folders who have joined because of the giveaways who had not folded for any team prior. It all accumulated over the past couple of months. I'm expecting a drop off after the overtake, unfortunately, but our ramp should resume in earnest due to the change in seasons and to maintain production into the indefinite future. We'll see.

Probably the ramp up is almost all you guys. Which other team or teams had any appreciable drop when you guys started your massive ramp up? I already looked so I know the answer.
 

jebo_4jc

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Probably the ramp up is almost all you guys. Which other team or teams had any appreciable drop when you guys started your massive ramp up? I already looked so I know the answer.
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Zero82z

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i don't have time to play games.

if you're trying to say something, just say it
He's trying to say that the [H] increase in production is mostly due to [H] members and not people who switched from other teams.
 

jebo_4jc

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He's trying to say that the [H] increase in production is mostly due to [H] members and not people who switched from other teams.

If you say so.

I think he's implying the opposite but I could be wrong.
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He's trying to say that the [H] increase in production is mostly due to [H] members and not people who switched from other teams.

That's how I read it too. I checked other teams productions, and didn't see any drop off for them during our race. He's just giving us props and most of the credit.
 

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That's how I read it too. I checked other teams productions, and didn't see any drop off for them during our race. He's just giving us props and most of the credit.
I checked half an hour ago myself. There seems to be a general slowdown on several teams' stats. Not much but it's noticeable. I attribute this to the dearth of -bigadv availability, big increase in P670x WUs and new less productive GPU2 WUs (P10109), not contributions from those teams to ours. Most of the teams that I've noticed slowdowns we've never even had contact with, and that alone should indicate production drop offs are a result of various causes.
 
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