Intel CEO: Most People Only Replace A PC After 5-6 Years

Yeah, if you do it part by part and sell the old ones, you can actually maintain a system for a long time.

I think I'm over upgraditus. I mostly play old games anyhow, don't really need a super computer.
 
cybereality said:
Yeah, if you do it part by part and sell the old ones, you can actually maintain a system for a long time.

I think I'm over upgraditus. I mostly play old games anyhow, don't really need a super computer.
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I have thought I was over it many of time, only to come back. :) However, there is plenty of cpu's, ssd's and ram to upgrade to that do make it worth it. (Motherboards, as well.) If GPU's were MSRP, I would go for those as well.
 
cybereality said:
Yeah, if you do it part by part and sell the old ones, you can actually maintain a system for a long time.

I think I'm over upgraditus. I mostly play old games anyhow, don't really need a super computer.
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I definitely don’t need the fastest chip...like for my Adobe Premier rig. Since they have GPU decode now I don’t really need a fast Intel CPU. Since I’m using a very small form factor case (CCD MI-6 - 6.7L), the Ryzen 5600X is the perfect choice for the Noctua L12S cooler I’m limited to.

...it makes sense...which is why I immediately rejected that idea and I’m smashing a 5950X in it! CPU GO BRRRRR. . [H] for life!

Chip arrives today!
 
Camberwell said:
Necro, but probably even more true today than 5 yrs ago. I have a 7700K, 1080 Ti, 1440p 144Hz monitor and an NVME ssd, but to upgrade this now to anything worthwhile would cost silly money, and for not enough gain in my eyes. YMMV of course but for my usage in games, I just dial back some of the graphics detail and get perfectly reasonable fps (100+). I stopped chasing those last few fps since RTX 2xxx prices went mental....
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I'm in a similar boat. My 3 year old 27" iMac is rocking the 7700k with a RX 580, it is still incredibly fast at anything I throw at it, and most gaming I do these days are quick Starcraft sessions when the kids go to bed. Theres no value in spending insane cash to upgrade, I suspect this machine reliably last another 5 years.
 
sed8em said:
I'm in a similar boat. My 3 year old 27" iMac is rocking the 7700k with a RX 580, it is still incredibly fast at anything I throw at it, and most gaming I do these days are quick Starcraft sessions when the kids go to bed. Theres no value in spending insane cash to upgrade, I suspect this machine reliably last another 5 years.
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Doubt it. I’ve been through 2 chip architecture changes with Apple and they’ll probably only support X86 for about 3 more years. Actually, this one is moving even faster than the others.

Now if you’ll excuse me I have to go install Voodoo drivers on my Win98 Pentium 3 machine.
 
Why are we still commenting on this thread? It's a 5 year old Necro!

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Revenant_Knight said:
Doubt it. I’ve been through 2 chip architecture changes with Apple and they’ll probably only support X86 for about 3 more years. Actually, this one is moving even faster than the others.

Now if you’ll excuse me I have to go install Voodoo drivers on my Win98 Pentium 3 machine.
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Mind you, getting six years out of a machine despite a platform architecture transition would be pretty good, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was another year or two thanks to security updates and third-party apps remaining relevant.

Me, I'm just wishing I could have held on to my previous iMac another year. I might've been happy to sacrifice a bit of screen size for the M1 iMac.
 
If anyone read the Death Gate cycle of books - I think this is how the downfall started.

You can't just buy a new Kicksey-Winsey in 5 years.
 
Revenant_Knight said:
Well, it's been about 5 years since this thread came out. We should poll and see how many of us replaced their rig. I did...twice.
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Eh, I never replace my rig, I just upgrade each of them piece by piece. :) It allows me to not overspend but, I wish I could upgrade my GPU's. ;)

cybereality said:
When does a rig become a new rig? Like I am still using the same case, but with mostly new parts. Does that count as the same machine?
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Who knows, it is like asking the question, "How many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?" The world may never know. :D Heck, I am still using the 1KW Seasonic power supply from 2016 and it is going strong.
 
I'm still on the same 5 year old rig, no immediately plans to upgrade. All I did was add another SSD, and I replaced the 5820K with a flea bay 5960X out of sheer boredom. I was going to gift my 980TI's to some younger family members this year and buy a 3080, but um, yeah.
 
JSHamlet234 said:
I'm still on the same 5 year old rig, no immediately plans to upgrade. All I did was add another SSD, and I replaced the 5820K with a flea bay 5960X out of sheer boredom. I was going to gift my 980TI's to some younger family members this year and buy a 3080, but um, yeah.
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That 5960x is much better today than a 6700k or 7700k, especially with that quad channel memory. (At least that is what I think.) Are you running your 980ti's in SLI?
 
DrLobotomy said:
You don't need to upgrade if the PC spends more time waiting on you that you waiting on it. I'm still on an i7-920 @ 3.8 Ghz and I can't see spending 3K to upgrade to x99. Once I put in an SSD a few years back, I realized that slow computers are really from slow hard drives. Can't count how many old machines I've upgraded to SSD's and all of a sudden, it is a fast PC. I read all these forums where peeps are upgrading their 2-4 year old machines and I just laugh. What a waste. E-peen 4 life.
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I laugh at the Ryzen crowd. Those people are upgrading year after year for the same shit. I dont think those chips would be as popular if the same people didnt buy them after a new model came out.
 
ManofGod said:
That 5960x is much better today than a 6700k or 7700k, especially with that quad channel memory. (At least that is what I think.) Are you running your 980ti's in SLI?
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For work maybe. I used to have one and I replaced it with a 8700K and it was definitely an improvement for games (very few games, at least at the time, could take advantage of 8+ cores).

That said, it was an unnecessary upgrade. I'm happy I did it, and there was a decent improvement, but I probably could have kept it and it would still be okay today.
 
TekRok said:
I laugh at the Ryzen crowd. Those people are upgrading year after year for the same shit. I dont think those chips would be as popular if the same people didnt buy them after a new model came out.
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Well, to be fair, many good motherboards can support new generation AM4 CPUs, so it's an easy drop-in replacement. Just swap the CPU and sell the old one, easy and cheap.

And there are always people ready to buy last gen used, I think Ryzen would still be pretty popular even if you subtract the repeat buyers.
 
TekRok said:
I laugh at the Ryzen crowd. Those people are upgrading year after year for the same shit. I dont think those chips would be as popular if the same people didnt buy them after a new model came out.
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That does not appear to be logical statement from where I am sitting. Unlike with Intel over the years, going from Zen 1 to Zen 2 or Zen 2 to Zen 3 is a significant upgrade. Even gaming at 1440p will see a big boost in performance.
 
I try and squeeze every last year possible from my cpu but upgrade my gpu every 2-3 years. I went from a 2500k to a 9600k and I'm very happy with that amount of usage I got from it lol.
 
UltraTaco said:
Mate, cn you saturate all that bandwidth? Besides, latency is higher with quad vs duo.
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Honestly, I have no idea, since I have never owned a quad channel system. (But I would love me some Threadripper Pro with 8 channel memory, just because. :) )
 
I went 8 years before upgrading from a Phenom II to a Ryzen 1700.
I went less than three years and a substantial change in workload to go from that Ryzen 1700 to a 3900X (Also doubling the RAM to 64GB)

Truth is that the 3900X isn't even keeping up with what I need it to do, so I am planning on upgrading that to a 5950X someday when that becomes economical. The 4 extra cores combined with the better IPC makes it a rather considerable upgrade. 40% in average performance improvement in the heavily threaded workloads that I'm constantly doing.
 
TheSlySyl said:
I went 8 years before upgrading from a Phenom II to a Ryzen 1700.
I went less than three years and a substantial change in workload to go from that Ryzen 1700 to a 3900X (Also doubling the RAM to 64GB)

Truth is that the 3900X isn't even keeping up with what I need it to do, so I am planning on upgrading that to a 5950X someday when that becomes economical. The 4 extra cores combined with the better IPC makes it a rather considerable upgrade. 40% in average performance improvement in the heavily threaded workloads that I'm constantly doing.
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What do you do? I can't hit the limits on my 3900X.
 
anabioz said:
What do you do? I can't hit the limits on my 3900X.
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Realtime 1440p or 4k transcoding. Especially when I'm transcoding a game that's already using a lot of my processing power.

The 3900X *can* handle it for most things, but for certain scenarios it starts to drop frames pretty bad. I *could* also transcode wth my videocard, but in most of these scenarios the videocard is hit harder than my processor and upgrading the processor seems like a far more likely thing to occur in the near future than upgrading my videocard.

I also, outside of real-time transcoding, I hit 100% usage on my 3900X when trancoding raw 4k video into X.265, and that still takes quite a bit of time, even with 24 threads. Not to mention the shit that I put my computer through for my minecraft server.

Likewise there's also the wife factor, so when I upgade my 3900X to a 5950X, she gets my 3900X as an upgrade from her 1700, and the circle of life continues.
 
Gorankar said:
What games can't a 6700K, 16GB ram, and a 1080 vanilla built in 2016 not play decently well today? Games don't push hardware like they once did. There are no "but can it run Crysis?" memes anymore. You might blame consoles for that somewhat I suppose. Devs do tend to program for the lowest common denominator.
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That may be changing soon with the newer consoles' 8 core-16 thread cpu's.
 
ManofGod said:
That 5960x is much better today than a 6700k or 7700k, especially with that quad channel memory. (At least that is what I think.) Are you running your 980ti's in SLI?
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For what I do, I'd probably be perfectly fine with any of those 3 chips in the present day, but I felt like some extra cores couldn't hurt. At the time, the 6700K wasn't even available yet, and a 5820K was almost the same price as a 4790K, so I figured why not. As for SLI, it's too bad about what happened that. In the games that support it, I can max out 1440P/144Hz/Ultra settings, but it seems like that's not going to be happening in newer titles. Quake Champions runs amazing though. I haven't even checked to see if it's using the 2nd GPU, LOL.
 
ManofGod said:
Honestly, I have no idea, since I have never owned a quad channel system. (But I would love me some Threadripper Pro with 8 channel memory, just because. :) )
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I would have to pull a couple of DIMMs out and bench my games to see if there's a difference. That would require taking off my giant air cooler, so it's probably not going to happen any time soon. Quad channel is great for AIDA64 e-peen, though. 76GB/sec with DDR4-2666 CL14 (y)
 
Hard drives last that long, and when the hard drive dies people just chuck their whole computer
 
I used to do a major upgrade once a year or so but now since gaming isnt as big a hobby of mine i do small upgrades every couple of years.
No real games on the horizon that are must plays for me so my 5600xt should get me through this current shortage but a major cpu upgrade is most likely coming since I could really use the transcoding power, most likely the newest cpu this board will take or this combo might go into my server and ill start fresh
 
This is right. I replace everything every 5 years or so. My i7-8700 (non-K) and 2080ti XC Ultra will last me longer than 5 years I think at this point. I doubt there is a single game I won't be able to play maxed-out for the foreseeable future at 1440p.

I just keep thinking about all the poor bastards that sold their video cards right before the 30xx series released thinking they would get one at launch, and then COVID hit... worst market in PC gaming history imo.
 
Well, my fathers editing machine was built in Mid 2017 with a 7820X. We just ordered a 10980XE as a drop-in replacement for the CPU. So about 4 years there.
 
I kept my previous build for 8 years but upgraded the storage, GPU and monitor throughout it's lifetime multiple times. I finally built a new PC around last July.
 
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