Intel 900p Optane drives to be another paper launch?

[evilpaul]

The Register had found a number of listings for the 280GB and 480GB Optane drives with them being priced at $650 and $1049 respectively. I looked around and Shopblt.com has four listed for each capacity (two for each coast of the US).

The price is pretty up there, but are they even going to be available? It would be cool if we got some releases this year you could actually buy.

 

[sirsad]

A quick google search suggests it releases this week so maybe you are a bit too soon on the roll out.

However, that price is crazy high.

 

[Aluminum]

newegg has (had? too slow if so!) preorders at MSRP with 10/30 release date

0 reason to pay a penny more in NA

Convinced work to give one a try, that is some serious continuous database I/O power and a billion times cheaper than ram. (WTB cartel investigation again please, its been long enough since the last one)
Yeah you can get up to a couple TBs of ram but just the platform cost alone is high, especially if you are locked into intel and its pyramid SKU scheme for the foresable future. Ironically I think a 1P epyc server would be the ideal home for 2 dozen or so of these.

Totally fucking pointless on a desktop for gaming or as those tiny Retarded Boost Drive Version 3.0™, lolmarketing, in that space it should be called floptane.

 

[evilpaul]

Yeah, it turns out the supply wasn't bad at all. I'm pleasantly surprised. Checked reviews and pre-ordered a 480GB one. Looking forward to it, I haven't had anything to upgrade to in a while.

 

[Aluminum]

Newegg randomly fucked charging the CC, hopefully didn't miss this wave 'cause they outta stock now.

 

[evilpaul]

I messaged them earlier:

Hello Paul, we are working on fulfilling orders when stock come back in the order it is received. The 30th is an estimated time we were given by the vendor however it can change.-Nick

They haven't charged my card. I'm not sure they sent out any from the reply although it could be implied.

 

[sirsad]

I'm trying to convince myself to go with the 900p but I only play games on the computer so I doubt I will see much of a benefit over the 960 EVO.

 

[evilpaul]

I'm curious as to how it'll affect overall responsiveness and possibly game load times. Probably not much at all for the latter,zero I assume? And I'll be able to get rid of a 240GB SATA SSD entirely and use a 400GB PCIE one that was the main one for Steam games and holding VM VHDs.

The spare SSD lying around along with some other parts is enough to give a friend a pretty decent rig.

 

[walked]

I'm keeping a close eye on availability and cant seem to find anyone taking preorders; auto-notify set on NewEgg but nothing yet.

Really hoping this isnt a super-slow launch..

 

[evilpaul]

I got a pre-order in on Newegg on the 27th. Still no status update from them on it yet. Drives were supposed to arrive two days ago.

 

[walked]

Just had an auto-notify email come in from newegg; theyre in stock now.

edit: And they cancelled my order nonetheless.

 

[evilpaul]

Were you after the 280GB one? It looks like those sold out (again?) already. I got a payment charged notification for my 480GB order around the time you posted and it's listed as in packaging, so I'm guessing a shipping notification should be arriving soon.

 

[brentsg]

The 480 sold out while I was trying to calculate all my PCIE lanes. Oh well, next time.

 

[Aluminum]

The 480 delivers on monday for me, really surprised newegg sat on a failed CC charge for almost 2 days without canceling the order outright. I was probably in the first set of preorders, did it 27th morning.

 

[walked]

Just got a notification and an order through before they sold out again. These seem to be either in low stock, or high demand (which is surprising given the cost).

Woohoo.

 

[brentsg]

I'm apparently not [H]. I'm having a hard time sealing the deal.

Will get it eventually but timing isn't great.

 

[evilpaul]

I think a lot of people were waiting on something to upgrade for a while now. I was at least. Optane was announced a stupid long time ago anyway.

I should have mine tomorrow. I'll let everyone know if it sets my PC on fire.

 

[evilpaul]

Plugged it in:

 

[Hagrid]

So for home use it's useless? What is the speed difference between a 2TB Samsung($700) vs a 480gb Optane(1049)?

 

[drescherjm]

So for home use it's useless?

From the start this was not really a good fit for nearly all home users. Although I am still holding out on its usage as a cache drive for zfs.

What is the speed difference between a 2TB Samsung($700) vs a 480gb Optane(1049)?

The drive is all about having lower latency and not really about bandwidth.

 

[walked]

Plugged it in:

Jeez that looks solid. Chompin at the bit to get mine installed next week; scheduled for Tuesday delivery.

 

[chx]

Yeah you can get up to a couple TBs of ram but just the platform cost alone is high, especially if you are locked into intel and its pyramid SKU scheme for the foresable future. Ironically I think a 1P epyc server would be the ideal home for 2 dozen or so of these.

Have you seen the ThreadRipper boards running Asus 4 nvme carrier boards? Crazy shit if you need I/O by the bucketloads! You can have at least 12 (but perhaps 14 or 15, didn't read the BIOS manual) PCIe 3.0 x4 drives, that's a real lot of I/O in a pretty RAID setup.

 

[evilpaul]

Not sure if it varies by capacity, but my 480GB drive is idling at 39C in a full tower case with plenty of airflow.

 

[N4CR]

If you want load times and latency that'll smoke these pricey drives.. just run a good old ram drive.. but with the price of RAM at the moment you're in a tight spot either way.

 

[fvbounty]

Not sure if it varies by capacity, but my 480GB drive is idling at 39C in a full tower case with plenty of airflow.

That seems really high temps for being at idle....have you seen any temps under load?

 

[evilpaul]

The highest it's gotten doing large sequential transfers was 43 or 44C.

 

[fvbounty]

That's a lot better, my 950 Pro in a Anglebird heatsink idles in the high 20C and under load in the high 40"s....do you see any real difference from your 750 in daily use?

 

[Tyns]

Have you seen the ThreadRipper boards running Asus 4 nvme carrier boards? Crazy shit if you need I/O by the bucketloads! You can have at least 12 (but perhaps 14 or 15, didn't read the BIOS manual) PCIe 3.0 x4 drives, that's a real lot of I/O in a pretty RAID setup.

I read that the additional latency from software RAID kills the benefits of Optane's low latency.

 

[Tyns]

Plugged it in:

Something not right with that AS SSD Bench 4k-64T read result - device is supposed to cap out at 2500 MB/s

 

[evilpaul]

It was version 1.8 something and glitched on that particular test. The 2.0 version is inline with what reviewers got.

 

[Balthazar2k4]

Given the latency issues of the 1950x because of the Infinity Fabric, would a 900p feel any different as an OS drive than my current 960 EVO?

 

[Tyns]

I should have mine in the next day or two and should be interesting - getting a U.2->PCI-E 4x adapter and may try one in a Thunderbolt 3 enclosure just to see the performance difference.

 

[walked]

Alright; got mine in. First step was to install a fresh Windows 10 copy.

Literally the fastest installation I've ever had. Sub 5-min from initial reboot to booting into a desktop. Felt fictional.

 

[Tyns]

Finally received mine, here are the results:

Edit: here are my 960 Pro results:

 

[evilpaul]

I flipped the Star Citizen code a few days ago, so my total cost ended up being about 3/4ths the MSRP. I'm never going to play the game, so that knocked down the dollar per gigabyte cost a fair amount.

Anyone else check their thermals? I'd like to make sure I'm not Optaning Super Wrong.