I Bought a RTX 3080 Today!

I Bought a RTX 3080 Today!

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KickAssCop

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Anyone got a Zotac. How is the experience? All reviews state that it runs 1-3% slower than FE. Wtf?
 
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Such interesting move when you look at the whole picture. Jensen is such salesman and he doesnt dissapoint!.

You have new product that is a good upgrade from previous version, but you have VERY limited supply.
AND you have a big aquisition deal coming up (ARM).

How do you get most value out of this situation?

1. hype it with careful words, "UPTO" double the performance
2. Be very strict on embargo dates
3. Ban all pre order
4. Send to all youtubers (and their dogs) to review it and hype it more
5.PROFIT!!
6. if people are angry, blame it on covid, avoid any talk about initial stock.

just my perspective from a consumer.

touché , Jensen, touché
 

Rkele

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For some reason I managed to get a FE from Nvidia. Website was totally messed up, but at some point the "add to cart"-button appeared. In 2 nanoseconds I added, tried to go to cart, error, refresh, error. Frantic clicking and finally got through payment.
Got confirmation email. Order now being processed and supposedly getting ready for shipping.

What a shitshow anyway. EVERYTHING was stuck, or just plain crashed. Some websites had no problems taking tons of orders for a product they don't have. Some say estimated delivery is in January :D

I think this launch pissed off over 99% of customers. AMD would have a golden opportunity now, but they're late, so late...
 

KickAssCop

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You seem confused about the new cooling solution on FE card being better than normal AIB cooling.
Why are you confused?
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-3080-trinity/32.html
https://www.back2gaming.com/reviews...ing-rtx-3080-trinity-review/11/#split_content (pick any bench in this review)
https://www.geeknetic.es/Review/1881/Zotac-GAMING-GeForce-RTX-3080-Trinity-Review.html (pick any bench in this review)

Consistently 1-3% slower since it maxes out at 1750-1770 MHz whereas FE runs around 1815-1850 MHz - on default settings.
I have 2 on order so yes I am a bit worried about it.
 

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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-3080-trinity/32.html
https://www.back2gaming.com/reviews...ing-rtx-3080-trinity-review/11/#split_content (pick any bench in this review)
https://www.geeknetic.es/Review/1881/Zotac-GAMING-GeForce-RTX-3080-Trinity-Review.html (pick any bench in this review)

Consistently 1-3% slower since it maxes out at 1750-1770 MHz whereas FE runs around 1815-1850 MHz - on default settings.
I have 2 on order so yes I am a bit worried about it.

You did not follow the debate about the FE circutboard, the new NVIDIA cooler, and AIB's just doing as alaways...but you thought you would order 2, before having data on hand?
Looks like you created your own problem.
 

JustLong

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I got one Thursday, by random chance.
Around 8am I clicked the "learn more" link in the "It Has Arrived: GeForce RTX 3080" email nvidia sent in the morning, saw the FE was in stock and checked out.
Took Nvidia over 6 hours to charge my credit card, so I had half expected to get a cancellation email. It took another 9 hours to get and order approved email. So they must truly be manually reviewing the day 1 orders.
 

5150Joker

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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-3080-trinity/32.html
https://www.back2gaming.com/reviews...ing-rtx-3080-trinity-review/11/#split_content (pick any bench in this review)
https://www.geeknetic.es/Review/1881/Zotac-GAMING-GeForce-RTX-3080-Trinity-Review.html (pick any bench in this review)

Consistently 1-3% slower since it maxes out at 1750-1770 MHz whereas FE runs around 1815-1850 MHz - on default settings.
I have 2 on order so yes I am a bit worried about it.

Read the reviews from TPU, it says pretty clearly their voltage frequency table is set lower than FE and others. Zotac probably used the lowest grade silicon for their GPUs or they just use a funky vbios, who knows who cares. Just wait on the inevitable vbios mod that removes power limits and clock it sky high.
 

noko

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For some reason I managed to get a FE from Nvidia. Website was totally messed up, but at some point the "add to cart"-button appeared. In 2 nanoseconds I added, tried to go to cart, error, refresh, error. Frantic clicking and finally got through payment.
Got confirmation email. Order now being processed and supposedly getting ready for shipping.

What a shitshow anyway. EVERYTHING was stuck, or just plain crashed. Some websites had no problems taking tons of orders for a product they don't have. Some say estimated delivery is in January :D

I think this launch pissed off over 99% of customers. AMD would have a golden opportunity now, but they're late, so late...
Lucky you, got it to the cart but never got past Checking Out . . . I too caught it when it briefly flashed but no luck in getting it all completed.
 

KickAssCop

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You did not follow the debate about the FE circutboard, the new NVIDIA cooler, and AIB's just doing as alaways...but you thought you would order 2, before having data on hand?
Looks like you created your own problem.
I ordered after reading the TUP review. I did not expect all cards to be the same. Either way the 100 MHz difference compared to FE can be made up by overclocking. It's the vbios mod that is required to run it at full potential.
 

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It was many, many bots directly interacting with the Digital River shopping cart API. This bypasses the rest of the add to cart-checkout process and gives them a massive head-start over "real" people placing orders. Per some other information I saw this was supposed to be protected, but they found some method of getting in anyway. Surprise, surprise.

I love how a company that sells some of the best hardware for AI and machine learning applications can't sell some DGX A100 units to Digital River and help them create a neural network model to differentiate normal user behavior from automated activity in real time.

Of course, they don't care. Cards get sold, they get their money. And in this instance they have their reasons for selling as few founder's cards as possible to prop up margins, but I know you have seen us discuss that. :)

If there were all those bots hitting it at the same time, where are all the cards? The bot people are resellers, and if I had a secured pre-order looking to make money, that shit would be on eBay in a second. As of right now, there are only 163 listings, and half of them are "Paper Editions" (just a piece of paper with a picture of the RTX 3080 on it).

This is pointing more and more to artificially low stock.
 

kirbyrj

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I was able to snag a 3080 xc3 ultra directly from EVGA. Took an hour, multiple tabs timing out, and some luck. Opted for next day air so it'll be here tomorrow.

I can't tell you how many times I hit that "Add to Cart" button with nothing but a wasted hour at the end. More luck than anything else.
 

jarablue

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Microcenter here in Cambridge, MA pulled a dick move. The very night before the release they updated their faq stating they would open early and sell the 3080s. So no one knew except a limited number of people. Forward to 10am that day. There was a line of about 20 people waiting to buy the card only for the sales manager to come out and say we are all sold out. One guy in line said how's that possible the store hasn't even opened. That is when he told him of the early sale. Fucking sucked. All the people in line just went home. I don't think that was cool at all. Like, sell the cards when they are supposed to sell at 9am or 10 when you open. Bunch of people were pissed.
 

KickAssCop

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Microcenter here in Cambridge, MA pulled a dick move. The very night before the release they updated their faq stating they would open early and sell the 3080s. So no one knew except a limited number of people. Forward to 10am that day. There was a line of about 20 people waiting to buy the card only for the sales manager to come out and say we are all sold out. One guy in line said how's that possible the store hasn't even opened. That is when he told him of the early sale. Fucking sucked. All the people in line just went home. I don't think that was cool at all. Like, sell the cards when they are supposed to sell at 9am or 10 when you open. Bunch of people were pissed.
Did they burn down the MC in a proper American way?
 

Darkswordz

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Microcenter here in Cambridge, MA pulled a dick move. The very night before the release they updated their faq stating they would open early and sell the 3080s. So no one knew except a limited number of people. Forward to 10am that day. There was a line of about 20 people waiting to buy the card only for the sales manager to come out and say we are all sold out. One guy in line said how's that possible the store hasn't even opened. That is when he told him of the early sale. Fucking sucked. All the people in line just went home. I don't think that was cool at all. Like, sell the cards when they are supposed to sell at 9am or 10 when you open. Bunch of people were pissed.
I'm guessing all the cards were bought up by the employees themselves. :rage:
 

kirbyrj

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He talks about supply at 15:40. Says AIBs told him (off record) supply is the same or more as past launches.



He also says stock won't be anything but a trickle until October/November, and that the launch inventory was about 5% of what would be available in October/November.
 

Archaea

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If there were all those bots hitting it at the same time, where are all the cards? The bot people are resellers, and if I had a secured pre-order looking to make money, that shit would be on eBay in a second. As of right now, there are only 163 listings, and half of them are "Paper Editions" (just a piece of paper with a picture of the RTX 3080 on it).

This is pointing more and more to artificially low stock.
Crypto miners don’t resell their golden gooses on eBay. These 3080s might make $4-5 per day on ETH mining at close to 100 Mh/s

Crypto miners have the incentive, knowledge, and infrastructure to DoS Newegg, EVGA, and B&H. eBay flippers generally would not.

Newegg reported more traffic to their site yesterday than Black Friday. They got Overloaded and were offline intermittently for about 1/2 hour. Flippers aren’t gonna do that.
 
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Iratus

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As much as it’s possible that people have an inside scoop on these sorts of things, I’m always sceptical. So many of the youtubers just make shit up and hope it sticks.

That said, I used to work in the tech sector and we had similar problems with some launches, goal was to just just get a few pallets in on air freight whilst waiting for the ships to arrive etc.
Global shipping is monumentally fucked at the moment, as is air freight of course so it’s not impossible that that together with manufacturing problems put them behind schedule. Even months ago it had been made very very clear that NVidia REALLY wanted to get into market as soon as possible.

Sidebar, I don’t know if it was LTT that created this whole video cover image style but damn it grinds my gears. “Oh my gosh, what could make him pull a face like that I must click”
 

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Crypto miners don’t resell their golden gooses on eBay. These 3080s might make $4-5 per day on ETH mining at close to 100 Mh/s
I'm not going to lie, that hashrate had me thinking. Briefly.
 

Archaea

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I'm not going to lie, that hashrate had me thinking. Briefly.
Same here... I recently sold the last of my active pascal mining setup. Fire it up again? If I could have sourced 8 cards for a rig? Probably so. Offset heating expense this winter..,

As it was, I tried for most of the day and couldn’t get even one.
 

Ready4Dis

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I just don't buy those twitter images of people buying like 10+ cards... They are showing a list of responses to a single email address. Most sites with a limit of 1 will not allow you to make 47 purchases with a single account.... It's either someone f*cking with others or Nvidia themselves trying to make it look like that actually had a product to sell but all the scalpers got them... Either ways it seems in true.
 

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I don’t understand nVidia’s “ we didn’t anticipate blah blah blah” talk. Like really? You’re the largest graphics card company and have a big ass fan base. I’m sure they have people scouring forums and what not. I mean where’s all that money going to if you’re not paying the foundries to manufacture your graphics chip? Like damn i understand you can’t make millions of GPUs for Launch day so why didn’t they just open up pre orders that way you can see how much GPUs you would need. Or just push back the Launch Day for when you can meet demands.

I agree with the preorders. I get that they can't stock millions of cards or maybe their production ramp didn't go as expected, ect. But why am I F5'ing against bots? Why can't I just preorder a card against my nVidia account and forget about it until one day it shows up?
 

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I'm really tempted to do the Microcenter camping thing for the 3090, but I'm paranoid about the pre-sale voucher thing they've been known to pull. They did that with the 1080 cards in Denver. They mysteriously pre-sold 90% of the cards they planned to get the day before. No warning, no instructions. Probably the sales staff considering their smugness that day.
Plus, if I do that, there's basically no way I'll get one via other means unless I start going bonkers on my phone while in line.
I figure I'm just going to open a pile of tabs and hope I luck out (for at least 30 seconds) on one of the FE models.
 

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I just don't buy those twitter images of people buying like 10+ cards... They are showing a list of responses to a single email address. Most sites with a limit of 1 will not allow you to make 47 purchases with a single account.... It's either someone f*cking with others or Nvidia themselves trying to make it look like that actually had a product to sell but all the scalpers got them... Either ways it seems in true.

The picture I saw floating around all looked like the orders were forwarded to the person's primary gmail, so likely multiple fake emails created to order. Who knows at this point...
 

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Me yesterday at 9:01am EST

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STEM

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I Bought a RTX 3080 Today! Or I did not!

If you did get your hands on a RTX 3080 today, please tell us how. Thanks!

I considered buying it for a second. Then again I have a pair of RTX 2080 Ti cards. Then again if I found it in stock somewhere I know I couldn't help myself. Kids take priority, maybe not over NVIDIA :ROFLMAO:

I would love to find out what caused the space invaders issue on the "old" RTX cards though, since the 20 series has been obsoleted now and all ... :whistle:
 

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1. Low stock on release day - check
2. Lots of complaining about not getting a card on release day - check
3. Nvidia bad - check
4. Stock will be sporadic for a month or two - check
5. Stock gets better folks get their cards - check
6. Only the chronic complainers and fanboys remember this in a few months - check
7. Business as normal every release - check

Rinse and repeat when 5nm comes out and when AMD has their Big Navi release - check
 

Archaea

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I just don't buy those twitter images of people buying like 10+ cards... They are showing a list of responses to a single email address. Most sites with a limit of 1 will not allow you to make 47 purchases with a single account.... It's either someone f*cking with others or Nvidia themselves trying to make it look like that actually had a product to sell but all the scalpers got them... Either ways it seems in true.
Bounce Alerts apparently had an API tie directly to Nvidia’s site through Microsoft Digital River that allowed them to order everything before the nvidia web site ever showed anything available for sale to human consumers. Since it was done at that level any website quantity limits weren’t in effect. This holistic scoop up all happened in seconds. Bounce Alerts has confirmed as much. Unfortunately for the rest of us - those twitter pics are very likely quite legitimate. What’s more only the idiots would post that on Twitter. Rest assured the majority of people who made out like bandits with the huge quantities weren’t posting their mechanisms on twitter for anyone to see. That’s be like a thief posting their haul on twitter for the cops to see. You know the majority of users with these means were face palming when the newbs were broadcasting their success.

Now If nvidia actually cancels those orders is the real question at hand.
 
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STEM

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1. Low stock on release day - check
2. Lots of complaining about not getting a card on release day - check
3. Nvidia bad - check
4. Stock will be sporadic for a month or two - check
5. Stock gets better folks get their cards - check
6. Only the chronic complainers and fanboys remember this in a few months - check
7. Business as normal every release - check

Rinse and repeat when 5nm comes out and when AMD has their Big Navi release - check

NVIDIA perfected playing this game of supply and demand. They release their products with built-in scarcity, and this helps them keep prices and demand high.

The GPUs I am interested in are the 3090 and Big Navi. I need the GPUs for a bit more than just gaming. The 3080 has 10GB of RAM. I guess NVIDIA wanted to build some obsolescence into that one. They might already work on the architecture. However, as good as their engineers might be, they cannot predict how their next product will pan out. So they need their current products to have a finite lifespan. Look how much of a fluke the GTX 1080 Ti was. I doubt that NVIDIA wants a repeat of that one.

The tulip-mania is intense with this launch.
 

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You can buy a PNY 3090 from PNY website. I just don’t think $1633 after tax is the price I am willing to pay for a 3090.
 

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So not a paper launch..... cotton I guess.
Limit the number of review samples.... sell the review samples. Cotton

Hopefully they restock soon... and hey they really did beat AMD by over a month at least it seems.
 

STEM

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You can buy a PNY 3090 from PNY website. I just don't think $1633 after tax is the price I am willing to pay for a 3090.

Thanks, but no, thanks. I'm not too fond of their products, as their QA and build quality leaves a lot, and I mean A LOT to be desired.

This thing is hideous, and those fans look like they can't wait to rattle:

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Archaea

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Thanks, but no, thanks. I'm not too fond of their products, as their QA and build quality leaves a lot, and I mean A LOT to be desired.

This thing is hideous, and those fans look like they can't wait to rattle:

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I mined on eight PNY XLR8 1070 for the better part of three years and I bought them from another miner used before that. I had one card that developed an intermittent squeak in one of the fans. The others were perfect when I sold them. They ran quiet and cool. Definitely great cards. I’d buy XLR8 again without hesitation. I’d say one of, if not my favorite cards I mined with.
 

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Several of the OEM card websites sell cards. Did they all go up at 6AM Pacific, too?
 
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