hey mice people, what's your take on Pointer Instruments $270 mouse?

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Dan,

Thank you for a very comprehensive and helpful reply, though sadly not the one I was hoping for. Like you, I like the ergonomics of the Logitech mice, but also like you, I find they wear out far too quickly. I was hoping the Razer mice would be longer-lasting. They'd need to be to justify their high price. I have a Razer DeathAdder V2, which was reasonably priced and has lasted well so far. It's a good gaming mouse (I use a claw grip for gaming) but I dislike it as an office mouse (I use a palm grip for office work). I was attracted to the Lunar Artefacts mouse because it's designed to be repairable, but it seems to have too many other problems. I'm fed up of buying disposable mice. I've been hoping that someone will create the mouse equivalent of a mechanical keyboard (I love my Code Keyboard). In the meantime, it sounds like the choice is to either buy something like a Logitech G502 Hero because it's cheap enough to replace when it wears out or buy something like a Razer Naga and hope that it lasts long enough to justify the considerable extra cost. Have you noticed any significant differences between the different versions of the G502 (other than wired vs wireless operation), or should I go for the G502 Hero because it's the cheapest?

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All of the G502's with the Hero sensor are pretty much the same.
 
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All of the G502's with the Hero sensor are pretty much the same.
Thanks for that. That's very helpful. I'm very tempted to try the G502 Hero because it's so cheap, so it won't matter even if it doesn't last very long. I would prefer to buy a mouse that will last a long time, but I'm wary of spending a lot of money on a mouse unless there's strong evidence that it will last significantly longer than a cheaper mouse.
 
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I bought a Logitech G502 Hero yesterday. It feels nice in the hand, though what I'd really like would be a wired MX Master 3S. I like the optional weights. The scroll wheel feels very nice. Just like the Razer Synapse, Logitech G Hub doesn't let me change the mouse settings when the mouse is connected via my KVM, though fortunately I can download settings into the mouse's onboard memory when it's directly connected.
 

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I'm lefty I use Logitech g902 its only mouse i found that works well being lefty in righty world.
 

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Going back to the OP since by now their product one would have expected to be 'out'. Anyone have this?

And also just ran into this company that seems to make pretty long lasting kits and complete mice/trackballs:
https://ploopy.co/mouse/
 
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Happy Hopping

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in the end, I don't think anything will last under warranty. That my Logitech G502 definitely didn't. I have since use a basic mouse Enhance Voltaic and so far it still works. I didn't pay for it so I don't care if it last or not. It seems all the gaming mouse don't last eventhough I don't pay any PC games.
 

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Can't believe someone out there thought "I wish my Razer Boomslang looked more like my wallet"
 

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As far as the Pointer Instruments mouse goes, I can appreciate what appears to the quality materials, design, and attention to detail. The ability to repair, upgrade and the like seems pretty well thought out and they report that hand stitching, polishing, and assembly is used in its manufacture. They mention they're using the Pixart PAW 3508 sensor with which I'm not familiar, but if its anything like many of the other Pixarts commonly used in high end optical mice it should be suitable, same with the Omron switches etc. USB-C + 2.4ghz + Bluetooth support is nice as well., as is native support for Qi Wireless charging. As others have said, the shape may not be to the liking of some but I don't have experience with the Boomslang so I cant' say, but these things will vary, just like the ambidextrous design as opposed to a perhaps more ergonomic design that necessitates being intended for either left or right hand use; ultimately, its personal preference. By default it seems you can buy the mouse with either A) a leather top surface in either brown or black + a shiny, polished solid brass or aluminum base or B ) a clear or black composite top surface + a white or black anodized/coated aluminum base. Polished Brass + Leather is the most expensive at $221, Polished Aluminum + Leather is slightly less so at $201, and the Coated Aluminum + Composite models considerably cheaper at $118. In addition, it seems like Composite models may lack Wireless Qi charging and a 2.4ghz dongle among perhaps other changes, as they're not listed on the page and don't seem to have their own user guides up yet (the "optic edition" guide was simply the polished base model with all of its features, yet with a composite swappable top). That's a bit annoying if there are separate hardware model types with differing compatibility; I'd want the full feature set included!

They also offer a handful of accessories and upgrades. They offer both leather and aluminum mousepad options; I have to give a little credit as I'm still enjoying my ancient SteelSeries "This was too costly to keep making" SX. even as I endeavor to swap to a desk mat. Putting aside chargers, pouches and the like, they offer a nylon printed Accessory Grip for $28 which changes the ergonomics a bit around the sides. However what caught my attention is the not-yet-available Pro Grip which seems to add 6 additional buttons and even 2 scroll wheels plus is extensible itself! That's the kind of thing I like to see as by itself the Pointer Instrument is a little too limited in terms of buttons for gaming in some cases, but also seeing that kind of support is nice. The questions however are when wil it be available and its compatibility - it is shown exclusively on the composite dark model, but that may just be because it fits aesthetically. Pic below -
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Ultimately I'm intrigued, but I would like a bit more info on things like its configuration (especially with pro grip attached), firmware and the like- I can hope its an open source QMK-ish setup; , maybe its worth a message. For these kind of prices, I want to see their upgrade and repair support and openness extend to firmware and software. However, it seems Lunar Artefacts is focusing on the luxury aspect of their products and materials primarily, so it will remain to be seen if it truly stacks up in tech or usability.

Going back to the OP since by now their product one would have expected to be 'out'. Anyone have this?

And also just ran into this company that seems to make pretty long lasting kits and complete mice/trackballs:
https://ploopy.co/mouse/
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While I've not used their mice, I did get a chance to demo their trackball. Overall, I like their company and the ethos of everything being open source, replaceable and the like. However, they very much make products for that DIY enthusiast, so elements like some 3D printed components and the warning they give about the roller bearings on the trackball models making it louder etc.... aren't likely to bother its primary demographic, but may do so for others. You can save a little cash if you buy the kits vs the fully assembled ones, however they warn that it does require soldering. If you're really interested, they even release specs, material lists, and 3d printing design stuff openly so you may be able to even make one yourself if you have a 3D printer, can buy the electronics, and are so inclined. With the DIY/FOSS-user focus and aside from few well documented and upfront idiosyncrasies like the loud bearings, they do seem to be quite well built and thoughtfully laid out - I like how the mouse has "left-left" and "right-right" buttons in addition to some of the more standard ones. I've been hoping they come out with another updated version of the "nano" trackball model with an updated sensor, USB-C and a couple of buttons (just L, R, wheel) that I was thinking of adding to a planned ergo setup as an alternative pointer. Ploopy seems to take the opposite approach to Lunar Artefacts above, still focusing on high end and repair ability but not specifically on luxury. Overall I've heard generally good things about the company and the products!

And to give one more suggestions for a possible competing mice in this sphere... Zaunkoenig! https://zaunkoenig.co/

Zaunkoenig is a perfect example of an absolutely purpose built tool. It is a mouse made from carbon fiber , is designed to be as light as possible, and used with the fingertip grip exclusively! It has high end electronics, switches and the like designed to pair with its less-than-1-gram weight in order to facilitate performance in FPS and similar games that benefit if you intend to use it as designed. They're handmade in Germany and have gotten hit hard by materials and production shortage like everything else, but they're extremely well regarded if its you type of mouse. The current M2K model is now out of production, but they'll be launching 2 new models in Q2 2023 - the M2S and M3K ; no details on these as of yet but the names.

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I've been considering getting one when the new models arrive and once I know the difference between them. Another entry in the unique, high end, made to last mouse world!
 
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