Dasung Showing New Paperlike Pro

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Dasung introduced it's first E Ink monitor at CES 2015 and was met with complaints about bad drivers and faulty displays. They followed it up with a second model in a successful Indiegogo campaign in July 2016, raising over $190,000. A new model is available for pre-order dubbed the "Paperlike Pro" and appears to receive substantial improvements, including an HDMI port. It retains the Paperlike Second Generation's 13.3" screen, and max resolution of 1600x1200, and has no backlight, and can be run entirely off of a single USB connection.

This has been a difficult product to find information on. When I initially found this news, I was thinking it would be quite affordable based on the E Ink based E-Readers that have come around. While I have no information on the new "Pro" model pricing, some scouring finds that when on Indiegogo they were available for $700, with a price tag of $995 after the campaign. While I love the idea of an E Ink display for work, and the portability of it only needing a single USB connection to power it and provide the picture, the price is off-putting.

Paperlike revolutionizes the convention of a display by bringing the digital space into the paper of real world. To protect eyes, health, and well-being, DASUNG profoundly follows the natural laws of maintaining the way of our human ancestors have been reading the texts and images.
 

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I see absolutely no reason for this? I would much rather have a backlit monitor. MUCH easier on the eyes. At least for me.
 

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I see absolutely no reason for this? I would much rather have a backlit monitor. MUCH easier on the eyes. At least for me.


I thought that was the point of e-ink readers? That they're much better for the eyes?
 

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This would be cool as a second display set up for showing different cpu/gpu usage info, but not 700$ cool
 

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darn if it was $200 i would buy it in a second because it gives my eyes 100% relief from IT ... when at home.
 

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I thought that was the point of e-ink readers? That they're much better for the eyes?

I'm 52, work behind and game behind a monitor 10+ hours a day. My vision hasn't changed much at all in 20 years. Just my gut.
 

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i can't read when i come home ... i can game, play on my phone but my eyes are too tired to focus on reading... from a monitor/smartphone... however e-ink is much easier on my eyes. regular books after work often have pixelated colors on the extreme white backgrounds... while for some reason eink doesnt for me (grayish screen of kindle dx)..

i probably have a weird eye problem though which docs think is concusion or neuropathy (color dots, tripping ballz 247)
 

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Pricing doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you can buy the ASUS MB16AC - it is bigger (15.6"), full HD, colour, backlit, is powered by USB, and is $249 US.
 

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I was wanting something similar to hang on the wall, be the wall calender synced to everything else. Without there being a big glowing box on my wall.
 

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I see absolutely no reason for this? I would much rather have a backlit monitor. MUCH easier on the eyes. At least for me.

Totally disagree and all research seems to show the opposite. Whilst a soft backlight with an e-ink screen (A la the Kindle Paperwhite, and as an aside, I think these Dasung devices should have something similar) is fine, as it has no real glare, a backlit LCD/OLED screen is much harsher on the eyes. My mother for example has a Kindle Fire and to read on it's way inferior to the Paperwhite.
 

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I'm 52, work behind and game behind a monitor 10+ hours a day. My vision hasn't changed much at all in 20 years. Just my gut.

Study has already shown that viewing any screen won't change your vision. Hardly an indicator about anything.

What you do get is eye fatigue, strain, irritation, etc. You probably try to alleviate this by might blinking more often, take short breaks to give your eyes some rest, rub your eyes, etc. Some are affected worse than others. Why companies try to make things like e-ink, for those who are affected worse than others.

Companies don't exist solely for you and will make products to hit others. I sit behind my computer monitors easily 15+ hours a day. 9 hours at work, 6 at home. I also have an eReader to use when I go out and it's definitely less eye strain using it compared to my computer monitors. The strain isn't enough to warrant me blowing $1000 on an e-ink monitor though.

Pricing doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you can buy the ASUS MB16AC - it is bigger (15.6"), full HD, colour, backlit, is powered by USB, and is $249 US.

Can't compare it to a normal monitor, cause it's not. It's e-ink. They simply don't have any competition in the field, not to mention it's expensive anyways. You can't get a 13" or larger e-ink reader for less than $600. Although, I would assume since this doesn't have tablet innards, that it'd be cheaper. Guess not.

Reminds me of when Fujitsu released their A4 sized color e-reader (roughly size of a sheet of paper). Could display 4000 colors and cost $22,000.
 

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Study has already shown that viewing any screen won't change your vision. Hardly an indicator about anything.

What you do get is eye fatigue, strain, irritation, etc. You probably try to alleviate this by might blinking more often, take short breaks to give your eyes some rest, rub your eyes, etc. Some are affected worse than others. Why companies try to make things like e-ink, for those who are affected worse than others.

Companies don't exist solely for you and will make products to hit others. I sit behind my computer monitors easily 15+ hours a day. 9 hours at work, 6 at home. I also have an eReader to use when I go out and it's definitely less eye strain using it compared to my computer monitors. The strain isn't enough to warrant me blowing $1000 on an e-ink monitor though.



Can't compare it to a normal monitor, cause it's not. It's e-ink. They simply don't have any competition in the field, not to mention it's expensive anyways. You can't get a 13" or larger e-ink reader for less than $600. Although, I would assume since this doesn't have tablet innards, that it'd be cheaper. Guess not.

Reminds me of when Fujitsu released their A4 sized color e-reader (roughly size of a sheet of paper). Could display 4000 colors and cost $22,000.

I get eye strain using E-Ink reader in dim light. If there isn't a good light source, it is terrible.
 

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I get eye strain using E-Ink reader in dim light. If there isn't a good light source, it is terrible.

So is a book. That's kind of the point. I don't think you thought your statement through very well... :)
 

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Not so fast. I use Kindle on my iPad and it's superb.. :)

Well, you're comparing reading something that has no backlight at all in a dark room, a la a book, to something that IS backlit and so is visible. Naturally, comparing between those two the backlit one will actually produce LESS eyestrain. However, the soft glow like backlight of the Paperwhite would be even better still as it essentially produces the effect of reading a normal page in good light. :)
 

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Well, you're comparing reading something that has no backlight at all in a dark room, a la a book, to something that IS backlit and so is visible. Naturally, comparing between those two the backlit one will actually produce LESS eyestrain. However, the soft glow like backlight of the Paperwhite would be even better still as it essentially produces the effect of reading a normal page in good light. :)

Pretty much. Backlit e-ink. Sadly, I have an old Sony ereader. No backlight. Although, I can get the led lamp thing for it or I can just turn on some lights.
 

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Pretty much. Backlit e-ink. Sadly, I have an old Sony ereader. No backlight. Although, I can get the led lamp thing for it or I can just turn on some lights.

Yep, the old clip-on LED light was what I used to use before I got my Paperwhite and later Voyage (which is overpriced and not worth it vs. a Paperwhite, just for information)
 

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Yep, the old clip-on LED light was what I used to use before I got my Paperwhite and later Voyage (which is overpriced and not worth it vs. a Paperwhite, just for information)

The Kindles don't have enough storage for me. I only read like 5 books over and over again, but I read a lot of manga. As they're just pictures, they take up a lot of space. I've love to get one of those 13" Onyx readers, but not for $700.
 

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The Kindles don't have enough storage for me. I only read like 5 books over and over again, but I read a lot of manga. As they're just pictures, they take up a lot of space. I've love to get one of those 13" Onyx readers, but not for $700.

That's a fair point, I despise manga so obviously that never impacted me :)
 
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