Crypto Miners, Not Gamers, Were The Primary Buyers of Graphics Cards Since 2021, Almost $15 Billion Worth of GPU Sales Reported

Axman said:
Whatever was this guys original claim to fame? Serious question, why do people listen to this guy and his crew?
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As mentioned his ORIGINAL claim to fame was being the guy who talked about tech for NCIX, never watched myself, but the guy basically parlayed that experience to do it himself. Then like other youtube channels, like Hardware Unboxed, he got more and views which allowed "the algorithm" to put him higher which, and due to the views/subs tech companies took notice and got him sponsorships and review samples, unlike channels like Hardware Unboxed though he kept expanding his company, so they have a really high end infotainment model as opposed to some guy simply just sitting at a bench. Why do people listen to him? I dunno. Why does someone like PewDiePie get so many people watching him? I used to watch him a fair amount, but I largely stopped watching all the tech guys during the Great Depression (of video card availability) as I just had no fucking desire what so ever to see any builds, or how great something is, etc.
 
sfsuphysics said:
As mentioned his ORIGINAL claim to fame was being the guy who talked about tech for NCIX
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Which was probably a rather big deal for a while youtube revenues was so low that people could not buy hardware to review them with it and it was not popular for company to send them hardware for them to test, being attached to something like NCIX to have everything new on hands to do the review gave him a big edge.

Now like many channels it is arguably mostly an Office show with the characters, the crew, running gag mixed with techporn than a tech channel people go for buying info (like hardwared unboxed is), a bit like what Bon Appetit became over time before it's implosion, replace food with tech.

I am not sure if people particularly listen to this guy and crew that much, but their direct tech/hardware access is quite large so maybe for niche product they have their hands on maybe, it is for the humors.
 
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DukenukemX said:
So what about 2018 and 2020? The pandemic didn't hit until early 2020 so there's no reason to have avoid that segment of the market
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Sadly there is, you want to print something at 16nm or larger there are dozens of fabs willing to fight for your business. You need to go smaller and your options are Samsung or TSMC, they charge for that privilege. It’s 3x more just for that alone. Now granted they could try doing up different silicon for the low end and do it cheap on Globals 12nm process. But the margins would be so thin that at this stage they would barely cover the design costs.

Sadly I’m thinking we are entering the era where the APU is going to be the only reasonable entry level GPU for a while.
 
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XenIneX said:
Because well produced, search-engine optimized tech journalism covering diverse interests gets more views than hygiene-optional neckbeards reading off spreadsheets?
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Best solution - publish the spreadsheets and leave out the rest of the crap?
 
XenIneX said:
Because tech print journalism is a burgeoning field, with a healthy, vibrant monetization model.....
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Can’t say I give a damn about the monetization models. The spreadsheet, backed by repeatable test conditions and reasonable setup, is the important part and the rest is generally fluff. I pay consumer reports for this kind of data, and I’d easily pay double that for [H] content again.
 
Isn't the 6600xt pretty cheap? 1080ti performance is a lot better then an APU, even the next gen ones that have ddr5 memory. I could see 6600xt used for under $200 happening, and they are a lot safer to buy then the ddr6x cards. Mine draw 55 watts mining and run 59 degrees dual mining. My friends 3090 is constantly around 104C that cant be good for longevity.
 
LukeTbk said:
Cheapest one seem $355 USD, $290 september 2016 USD for a 1060 6gb is around $353 in 2022 dollar for a reference.
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Yeah, well i paid $500 for each of mine and 4 of them are only making $2 a day -- i think they are still going to get cheaper yet.
 
Lakados said:
Sadly I’m thinking we are entering the era where the APU is going to be the only reasonable entry level GPU for a while.
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Not entirely. It depends on the performance of the APU but most people will just buy older graphic cards. Either used or older generation products.
buttons said:
Isn't the 6600xt pretty cheap? 1080ti performance is a lot better then an APU, even the next gen ones that have ddr5 memory. I could see 6600xt used for under $200 happening, and they are a lot safer to buy then the ddr6x cards. Mine draw 55 watts mining and run 59 degrees dual mining. My friends 3090 is constantly around 104C that cant be good for longevity.
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Right now the 6600 XT is new $350 and used $250 at lowest prices I could find. Which for most gamers is still out of their budget range. The RTX 2000 series products were kinda terrible in that they were hardly a performance increase over the GTX series so there's a wide gap that gamers will avoid. A 6600 XT is a decent upgrade for a Vega 56 owner, and a big upgrade for GTX 1060 owners but prices have to drop a lot more before people start picking them up. I would never recommend anyone to buy a RX 5700 or even worse 5600XT. Those cards are just trash.
 
DukenukemX said:
Not entirely. It depends on the performance of the APU but most people will just buy older graphic cards. Either used or older generation products
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I meant as new product launches but yeah, the used market is going to be strong for the next few generations.
 
DukenukemX said:
The RTX 2000 series products were kinda terrible in that they were hardly a performance increase over the GTX series so there's a wide gap that gamers will avoid.
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I know a lot of gamers still using various flavours of the 10 series. Gradually helping them source new machines or cards as budget allows.
 
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