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I want 2042 to be a great game but so far I'm seeing nearly universal criticism. Not confidence inspiring...
There would be criticism no matter what. That's just the time we're in now. "This game doesn't conform perfectly to my personal hierarchy of needs for the perfect Battlefield game - therefore its a SHITSHOW!"

And that's why I invite you to join me and GoldenTiger in reporting any posts that are critical of the game or EA/DICE in any way. Let's nip this in the bud before it gets even more out of hand!
 
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There would be criticism no matter what. That's just the time we're in now.

And that's why I invite you to join me and GoldenTiger in reporting any posts that are critical of the game or EA/DICE in any way. Let's nip this in the bud before it gets even more out of hand!
That's right! Dice got admins for this sort of roundup! Report away people!
 

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I mean, I just want to know objectively if the game is good or not. But it's hard to find any unbiased opinion.
Its the same as everything these days, release a beta as a final product. its not bad but its not great, it could be a 7-8/10 with patches.
 

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Is the gameplay loop fun? How is the gunplay? Does it play like BFV from a gunplay mechanics standpoint?

I really enjoyed the gameplay of BFV, all other issues aside, but I hear they removed some of the movement changes they made in BFV with 2042, and that's a disappointment.
 
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I've pretty much only been playing portal so far. 1942 is pretty awesome. I'm so conditioned to modern gameplay I got hit and found a quiet corner waiting for my health to regen only to find nothing happened. Had to actually find a medic.

Just played a round of BC2 and it was like coming home. Still got it why the underbarrel HE launcher.
 

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I mean, I just want to know objectively if the game is good or not. But it's hard to find any unbiased opinion.
its not good, but its fun. but if its not fun for you, then its not good. its got a ton of issues. maybe wait for the patch. the beta was the alpha and this is the beta, and we're waiting for a release candidate
 

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There would be criticism no matter what. That's just the time we're in now. "This game doesn't conform perfectly to my personal hierarchy of needs for the perfect Battlefield game - therefore its a SHITSHOW!"

And that's why I invite you to join me and GoldenTiger in reporting any posts that are critical of the game or EA/DICE in any way. Let's nip this in the bud before it gets even more out of hand!
You make me want to vomit.

I mean, I just want to know objectively if the game is good or not. But it's hard to find any unbiased opinion.
It's objectively terrible.
 

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Played 6 hours today and the game is growing on me fast! My eyes are seared from my PG32 1,600 nit HDR in the game, but it looks glorious! Haven't had this much fun in years in a PC game.

A lot of patching and tweaking required by the devs, but the foundation is there. Sucks release is a beta, but it's still a blast.
 

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You make me want to vomit.


It's objectively terrible.
Name checks out. j/k, we're goofin' around here. But a lot of people just complain "it just sux" with no specifics. And when pressed, double down with "it just does".

Need actionable information.
 
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Name checks out. j/k, we're goofin' around here. But a lot of people just complain "it just sux" with no specifics. And when pressed, double down with "it just does".

Need actionable information or it becomes harder to take seriously.
Someone already posted a decently comprehensive list of "actionable information":

https://hardforum.com/threads/battlefield-2042.2003186/page-40#post-1045191942

It's hard to take people like you seriously when they don't even read the thread they're replying to.
 

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Someone already posted a decently comprehensive list of "actionable information":

https://hardforum.com/threads/battlefield-2042.2003186/page-40#post-1045191942

It's hard to take people like you seriously when they don't even read the thread they're replying to.
Some of those aren't credible though.

Like rezing in combat. I think only certain specialists will see everyone on the map to rez. Everyone can see there squad mates who need a rez. At least thats what I found.

There is a scoreboard, you just hit tab.

There is vehicle customization.

Some of those complaints are warrented.
 
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I refunded this garbage.

No server browser.
But not just that, kicks you back to the lobby/matchmaking after each game. So you can't have a grudge match against a team that just beat you. Or any type of progression.
No all chat. Fucking gay.
No scoreboard.
No stats.
Shit squad system.
No class system.
Less destruction.
No medic indicators on map.
No vehicle customization.
- This affects Portal heavily. BF3 is now, not BF3.

Lots of other shit I am forgetting. But they have now officially stripped out 90% of what made Battlefield Battlefield. Congrats, it's now a COD knockoff.

Fuck EA in their fucking asses.
Yeah the game is trash. They made the maps huge, 128 players? WHY? Just to say we did it! When every game mode is filled with bots to take up player slots LOL. Because of the size,iIn order to make up for the shitty performance they made the object detail, geometry and textures all simple and bland. Literally a trashcan game. BF:V, BF:1, Starwars battlefront 2, BF4 all looked better than this garbage. LOL
 

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The social section for joining/inviting a friend is absolute garbage, I still cant figure out if there is a way of changing squads or not. The game is far from optimized, turning on ray tracing can drop the frames by 60 fps or more with a AMD card.I can play it with everything else maxed out for graphic settings, getting 100-150fps, as soon as RT is turned on it'll drop me to the teens at times making the game unplayable. The map El Alamein crashes/hangs every time, this probably is a driver issue.

I think the game has potential. but like most games today it seems like a beta then a finished product, it defiantly needs a major patch.
 

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Yeah the game is trash. They made the maps huge, 128 players? WHY? Just to say we did it! When every game mode is filled with bots to take up player slots LOL.
I agree, for years 64 man servers were just fine, now I don't know if Im fragging real players or bots. That and the game just runs worse with that many players.
 

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I prefer the 128 players. You need it with maps this large. The issue though is that squads are so poorly done right now that it just feels like a chaotic trash pile.
 

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I agree, for years 64 man servers were just fine, now I don't know if Im fragging real players or bots. That and the game just runs worse with that many players.
I turned off crossplay, and I havent played 1 game with bots as far as I can tell. I tried to play a game with a friend who had it on, and it was a huge lagfest :/
 

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Yeah the game is trash. They made the maps huge, 128 players? WHY? Just to say we did it! When every game mode is filled with bots to take up player slots LOL. Because of the size,iIn order to make up for the shitty performance they made the object detail, geometry and textures all simple and bland. Literally a trashcan game. BF:V, BF:1, Starwars battlefront 2, BF4 all looked better than this garbage. LOL
Sounds like you haven't even played the game and just joined the bandwagon that this game sucks. Because this game looks night and day better then all those games.

128 players is perfect if you ask me. Sure there are problems and bugs of course, but it isn't as bad as some in here and making it out to be. Shit there have been 2-3 people who said this game sucks in this thread, which have later changed their mind after playing the game.
 

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Sounds like you haven't even played the game and just joined the bandwagon that this game sucks. Because this game looks night and day better then all those games.

128 players is perfect if you ask me. Sure there are problems and bugs of course, but it isn't as bad as some in here and making it out to be. Shit there have been 2-3 people who said this game sucks in this thread, which have later changed their mind after playing the game.

Graphically the games not much of an upgrade at all, as the other guy mentioned some maps have very obvious detail reduction as a performance tradeoff to help manage double the playercount. Maps are far less detailed than they were in previous games and as a result of that just feel very empty and bare bones. There's meant to be a global catostrophe ongoing yet some maps are so sparse it's like the street cleaners have been out working overtime.

As for the playercount on some maps 128 doesn't even seem enough, sometimes theres no sense of being in a battleifeld at all as the audio seems to not reflect whats going on. Personally i think they should have stuck to 64 and not bothered with bots, even if they had have upped the playercount to 80 it would have been better than having maps littered with clueles bots running around like headless chickens.
 

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Graphically the games not much of an upgrade at all, as the other guy mentioned some maps have very obvious detail reduction as a performance tradeoff to help manage double the playercount. Maps are far less detailed than they were in previous games and as a result of that just feel very empty and bare bones. There's meant to be a global catostrophe ongoing yet some maps are so sparse it's like the street cleaners have been out working overtime.

As for the playercount on some maps 128 doesn't even seem enough, sometimes theres no sense of being in a battleifeld at all as the audio seems to not reflect whats going on. Personally i think they should have stuck to 64 and not bothered with bots, even if they had have upped the playercount to 80 it would have been better than having maps littered with clueles bots running around like headless chickens.
I dunno I have all the BF games, and this game to me has some of the best graphics of the bunch. Maybe its the map?

Also, I have yet to run into any bots. Every single game I have played has been total chaos which I love. Been playing with a few friends as a squad and its been so much fun.

Now, don't get me wrong this game ain't perfect at all. But it isn't nearly as bad as some people are making it out to be.
 

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BFV looks better. It's not even close. The level of detail on the Rotterdam map, for instance, is insane when you think about it.

Also, nothing in this game has made my me say 'wow' like playing a good Iwo Jima battle did in BFV. The absolute chaos of holding the mountain top for 10 minutes playing as Japan with explosions going off everywhere is something this game can't replicate.

Of course, beyond the graphical downgrade, the other issue is just the shitty sound design in 2042. That's one of the biggest issues it has. It's hard to have immersion when the sound is so bad. You can hear the importance of good sound design by watching any BFV or BF1 video. Even the music is complete garbage in 2042 compared to most of the prior titles.
 
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I dunno I have all the BF games, and this game to me has some of the best graphics of the bunch. Maybe its the map?

Also, I have yet to run into any bots. Every single game I have played has been total chaos which I love. Been playing with a few friends as a squad and its been so much fun.

Now, don't get me wrong this game ain't perfect at all. But it isn't nearly as bad as some people are making it out to be.
Playing on Manifest when the storm rolls in, wind picks up, random lightning strikes…it’s pretty damn cinematic.
 

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Yes, you can host a private or public server with any setting you can think of: including bots. And from either BF1942, BF3 and or BC2 weaponry and maps too.
Ah dammit, might have to actually check it out then. If I'm understanding this right, I can play my own private server with a few friends and a ton of bots like back in 1942/Vietnam days?
 

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No way to change squads, and because of no server browser you’ll pretty frequently get dumped into the loosing team on a match that maybe has a couple minutes left. It’s great.
 

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No way to change squads, and because of no server browser you’ll pretty frequently get dumped into the loosing team on a match that maybe has a couple minutes left. It’s great.
That really sucks, if you get a squad that sucks or doesn't work together, you're stuck with it, stupid decision that I hope they fix. I also hate the fact that after every game you have to deal with matchmaking rather then a grudge match. There is a browser for the older maps, but each of those game types is two maps each.
 

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Anyone else noticed in the portal options you can have a player crawl around when he's been shot instead of laying on the ground waiting to be revivied? Just like a br game.
 

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Ah dammit, might have to actually check it out then. If I'm understanding this right, I can play my own private server with a few friends and a ton of bots like back in 1942/Vietnam days?


Yup. I made a nice free for all 1942 hardcore match last night. Filled it with hard bots and was pretty fun.
 

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Wow I just refunded the game. Never thought I’d see the day when I’d refund a battlefield game. I may revisit it after they issue a few patches but I can’t even load most maps. I keep getting Discarded over and over again.

There is just better stuff to play. :-(
 

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I got a few hours behind me and... I absolutely love the gameplay. Yes I do hate the movement system regression vs BFV (seriously, why) but other than that I'm having a blast and loving the hell out of the vehicles (the main thing for me in Battlefield). I think the vehicles are more fun than in any other BF title, especially the choppers (the fact that transport choppers are now proper gunships with heavy armour and huge firepower makes them a blast to play even as a weaponless pilot). The huge maps help and I'm frankly very happy with all of them.

I've only really played the base game so far (conquest 128, modern era), so I can't comment on Portal yet. I have no interest in Hazard Zone so don't even ask haha.

Now on the technical side it's a mess. Bugs, networking issues, mediocre performance and puzzling GPU/CPU usage (GPU is pegged at 100% but reducing settings or DLSS does next to nothing?) - 11900k/3090 at 4k

I think the game looks great.. but only in HDR (playing on an LG OLED). Seriously in SDR it looks so bland and boring. Either a fantastic HDR implementation or HDR is literally the native version and SDR was an afterthought. I don't know but it's a staggering difference IMO.
 

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Kalston, I noticed that too. The game looks WAY better with HDR. I think the whole graphics were developed around HDR because they look like crap without it on.

So far I haven't had this much fun in a BF game since BF3. I could see me playing this for a long time, especially once it's polished. I just wish it wasn't so demanding. It's weird going from 4K BFV Ultra (which looks great too) at 130 FPS with my 3090 down to measly ~80 on Ultra in 2042.

BTW the move to 128 players is amazing. If people concentrate one area, it's freaking massive CHAOS I love it.
 
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Wow I just refunded the game. Never thought I’d see the day when I’d refund a battlefield game. I may revisit it after they issue a few patches but I can’t even load most maps. I keep getting Discarded over and over again.

There is just better stuff to play. :-(
Don't say you don't like the game here, they'll tell you to go play COD, lol.
I'm playing Portal but I'm like, I played these maps endlessly 10 years ago, why I'm I wasting my time with this?

Like I said, get this title on GamePass only. You'll be ok with how it is.
 
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