Apple Being Sued for Slowing Down Older iPhones

[Red Falcon]

Not going to happen. Removable batteries aren't waterproof, add bulk, and are more expensive to manufacture.

The entire industry is abandoning them. Give it up. The 90s are over.

The 90s? Seriously?
Even Android smartphones had them up to 2015 with the Galaxy S5.

I guess people weren't so stupid back in the 90s like they are now, but frog in boiling pot and all that... :/

 

[Spidey329]

Not going to happen. Removable batteries aren't waterproof, add bulk, and are more expensive to manufacture.

The entire industry is abandoning them. Give it up. The 90s are over.

90's? Samsung and a few others just abandoned that design not too long ago.

I don't think the iPhone ever had removeable batteries. It's part of Apple's "only let us service this because we love $$$$" business model.

 

[DeathFromBelow]

lol, lawyers will get 95%, and we all will get $5.00.

I don't get this attitude. The lawyers do 99% of the work, all you have to do is fill out a form with proof of purchase and get your money.

Class-action suits hold companies accountable by punishing them for widespread anti-consumer behaviors that don't rise to the level where an individual would sue.

 

[steakman1971]

According to an article I saw on MacRumors: "The iPhone battery is designed to retain 80% of its original capacity at 500 complete charge cycles." That would give approximately ~1.5 years if you charge nightly. If your battery is outside of that usage, Apple will replace it (under warranty). They use lithium-ion batteries.
Basically, all portable devices are using lithium-ion batteries. Are Android devices suffering the shutdowns this is reporting? Not that I'm aware of. (Not talking about the OS modification - talking about failures do to the battery not keeping up).
Apple should have made this an opt-in feature (even if it is on by default, but you can toggle via preferences.) . Just bury it in Settings. I suspect this could happen as a result of the noise being cause by it.
I have an iPhone 7 that is a little over a year old. My battery sucks lately. I bought a case with a battery pack - it's made the phone much nicer to use (although if I were getting throttled, I'd assume the battery case won't make a difference as the internal battery drains and I have to manually press the button for the case to charge the phone...) . Before the case, I was having to charge at least twice a day - maybe I should get it checked out. (Although I don't want to be without my phone while Apple replaces the battery.)

 

[Uvaman2]

I don't get this attitude. The lawyers do 99% of the work, all you have to do is fill out a form with proof of purchase and get your money.

Class-action suits hold companies accountable by punishing them for widespread anti-consumer behaviors that don't rise to the level where an individual would sue.

I was going to post the exact same thing.
I don't get that attitude either, its weird.
I get jokes about lawyers and stuff, to me they are just jokes, you know ha ha ha funny.., to others I think its more than that, they believe them....
not knowing how really fucking important lawyers are, and the best thing you could have is a good lawyer.. you know, like those that big corps and rich people can get.

 

[Uvaman2]

Maybe replaceable batteries with form factor standard should be federally mandated as an environmental issue.
I am serious.

 

[Uvaman2]

Not going to happen. Removable batteries aren't waterproof, add bulk, and are more expensive to manufacture.

The entire industry is abandoning them. Give it up. The 90s are over.

Well said! /s
Yeah, its nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get removable batteries, I mean all they need is THREE contact points.. that is simply IMPOSSIBLE to make that water resistant, it, it just CAN'T be done, you just can seal everything else, and make an isolated area with 3 contact points.
Or you just cant make a very small rubber seal around a lid or a clamp-shell.
IMPOSSIBLE/s

 

[Jim Kim]

Samsung had removable batteries until the S5. Has nothing to do with the 90s or age of the device at all. It's 100% about the form factor of the device and how it's cheaper to manufacture and support a phone that doesn't allow the owners to remove the battery.

Don't forget more profitable in the long run (but i guess "cheaper to manufacture and support" would be part of that equation)

 

[c3k]

Removable batteries are very important to me.

1. They allow replacement with a fresh battery when the old one no longer retains its ability to hold a full charge.
2. When the phone "locks up", pulling the battery forces a shutdown and allows a restart.
3. If I need (or want) to ENSURE my phone is off, I can pull the battery.
4. If I'm going to use the phone heavily and cannot charge it, a spare battery swap will let me use the phone for as long as I want.
5. As battery technology improves, a new battery can change my "8 hour" phone into a "24 hour" phone.
6. If I can remove my battery, I can be assured that no thermal runaway will cause a fire.
7. Removable battery compartments show me that the company recognizes that there are reasons to allow the customer to swap batteries.

Waterproof? Well, I've never gone diving or swimming or waterfall touring with my phone. I guess that makes me the odd scuba diver? A little water resistance is really all that's needed. Hell, add reason 8: if the phone falls into the pool, the removable battery may be ruined (charging port allows fluid in), but the rest of the phone should be sealed off from the battery (contact points only), and that would IMPROVE the protection to the rest of the phone.

 

[DukenukemX]

Come over to Android... Join the dark side!

One of us, one of us.

 

[Deleted member 243478]

Maybe replaceable batteries with form factor standard should be federally mandated as an environmental issue.
I am serious.

Consumers wanted water sealng and they got it. You cant have a removable battery and water seals, its basically impossible without large bulky designs

 

[FlawleZ]

Consumers wanted water sealng and they got it. You cant have a removable battery and water seals, its basically impossible without large bulky designs

You should probably do some research. I'll help you. Start with the Galaxy S5.

 

[Deleted member 243478]

You should probably do some research. I'll help you. Start with the Galaxy S5.

Yes now look up Galaxy S5 water damage.. It is utter crap and not covered under warranty either.\\

If you want proper watersealing then you have to seal the phone with adhesive and o-rings... simple as that.

 

[DukenukemX]

I personally don't have a hard time changing the battery in an iPhone, but even if you change it doesn't seem like you'll get back your performance.

 

[Deleted member 243478]

Thats fine, restore full speed for all the whingers and let the phones start dying and draining batteries quicker. Devices age... live with it.

 

[FlawleZ]

Yes now look up Galaxy S5 water damage.. It is utter crap and not covered under warranty either.\\

If you want proper watersealing then you have to seal the phone with adhesive and o-rings... simple as that.

If you don't install the battery cover properly or remove the charging port cover of course it won't seal. Samsung abandoned it because you can't fix stupid and a large majority of the population will buy one and fall in that category. Mine was wet multiple times and it still works great. In fact, the speed and battery life is still really good the only reason I moved to an S8 is because the carriers the intentionally use band preference to so the older devices don't receive reception or have more frequently dropped calls.

 

[Wine]

Do phones perform better when plugged in similar to how laptops generally do? Were tests done with the phones with degraded battery and performance done with them plugged in vs on battery? Shouldn't think that Apples special throttling algorithm would need to run when on a sufficient charger and with a full battery. Doing basic google searches on such things seem to mostly bring up results for battery charging tips and battery myths.