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I get that. It's just annoying when you try to compare the gaming merits of a selection of GPUs and someone comes in talking about CUDA. Nvenc I understand somewhat more...but again it seems most people end up streaming for a handful of people, aka a side hobby.
Depends on who you count as your average buyer. It’s been an effect on market supply for sure - I’ve sold a LOT of 2080TI and 3080 for… AI/ML work. You can stuff more of the FE cards in an R740 or DL380 than you can the dedicated RTX datacenter cards - and at lower power. More cores, less ram, wider footprint. There are companies buying consumer kit and modified cables just for this. Also doesn’t require weird licensing. 3060? Nope. But the bigger cards? Ayup.
This technology has nothing to do with ray tracing really.
Digital Foundry breaks it down into frame times/milliseconds. And it does look like FSR 2.0 actually currently takes more time per frame, to process, on AMD cards, than on Nvidia. But its more complicated than simply stating that. As the per frame cost on Nvidia cards actually differs a notable amount, depending upon the architecture. And not in an intuitive way (see: newer architecture doesn't necessarily mean faster processing of FSR 2.0).
Since it's open source; if developers want to, they can tweak and customize FSR 2.0 to mitigate visual issues for their specific game.
Did you watch the video? No amount of tweaking will fix those glaring issues; and as far as mitigating them, I don't see how they can mitigate them to the degree that an AI assisted upscaler does. As far as FSR improving quicker than DLSS, I suspect it will not. There is just no way for an upscaler to insert missing information without the help of AI; so for FSR to improve to the degree that DLSS has, they will eventually have to go with AI assistance.
Kinda of a silly thing to say. Because you wouldn't say that if you looked at how far we have come from FXAA to TXAA to where TAA is today (*shiver* I don't even like reading that in my head. Way to many A's eh? lol). FSR 2.0 can absolutely be tweaked and improved. Even developer side.
FXAA/TXAA smooth an image out. They do not try to insert missing information where there is none.
This example is about tracking the animation properly. Not.....inserting missing information? The amount of frames in the animations doesn't change, based on the rendering resolution. This is the current FSR 2.0 code not correctly tracking Deathloop's animations. Could simply be an issue of sub-optimal motion vectors and/or depth buffers. Or maybe something else. However, something like this should be relatively easy to fix, if they want to.
I proceeded to run some benchmarks, first at native 720p and very low settings, then with native but with temporal anti-aliasing (TAA) and FidelityFX CAS (Contrast Aware Sharpening) enabled, and finally with FidelityFX Super Resolution 1.0 as well as FSR 2.0, both using the "Performance" upscaling mode in order to provide maximum framerates. Screenshots are below, and FSR 1.0 looked quite awful, with a very blurry appearance plus sort of a "static" interference error that kept showing up, possibly from the falling snow. FSR 2.0 on the other hand was still quite serviceable.
Now granted, playing at 720p with 100% upscaling isn't going to be ideal, but was it workable? Almost! I'd even go so far as to say FSR 2.0 looked better than native, at least using the default very low settings that disable temporal AA. But how did Deathloop perform?
(Image credit: Tom's Hardware)
(Image credit: Tom's Hardware)
So yeah, that's actually not too bad! The starting point of 28 fps for Iris Xe was almost high enough to be playable, though with TAA+CAS that dropped to 26 fps. FSR 1.0 gave 22% more performance, averaging 34 fps — at the cost of image quality. FSR 2.0 helped a bit in framerates as well, to the tune of 16%, just clearing 30 fps. That's the minimum we shoot for in order to deem a game "playable."
Yeah the modder mentions that bugs should be expected. But it's still really cool.
No, I mean his shadow seems to stick to his moving foot and it looks like he is walking on sticky oil.
This guy gets it.
Very interesting, the open nature is cutting loose the modders and developers to really make it more useful and universal over DLSS. Nice.
