9800 pro , cat 4.6 leaving artifacts!

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dcho

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just reformatted with a brand new 9800 pro (ati retail), and after installing the catalyst 4.6 drivers, there are some places on the desktop with distortion... (one or two icons will look messed up, and or dragging across the desktop will leave little white pixels :confused: ) what's going on here?! setup is : barton 3000 (400fsb) on an nf7, 512ddr pc2700 ( i know) and radeon 9800 pro... :confused: :confused:

also, everything was fine before i installed the catalysts ! ( meaning the default crappy generic drivers windows xp installs right after a reformat)
 
4.6's causing problems for me too. In City of Heroes, since installing the 4.6's certain buildings will flash different shades of whatever color they are, very annoying. CoH is the only OpenGL game I have installed at the moment as well. All other games are fine, and I gained almost 300 points in 3DMark03.
 
I'm running the 4.6's on my 9800 pro and havn't seen any artifacts that you are describing. Maybe it's a heat issue like Brent mentioned....
 
i smothered my fingers all over the heatsink just now... not hot at all :cool:
 
dcho said:
i smothered my fingers all over the heatsink just now... not hot at all :cool:
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I know, it is not a heat issue. I think Far Cry would be a good example, I play it with almost all settings maxed, NO PROBLEMS.
 
I am having artifacts in 2D mode even at the windows 2000 startup screen and before I installed these drivers there were no problems at all.
 
oh my lord... this is NOT GOOD!
uninstalled all ATI software and drivers and rebooted, and it shows artifacts in the BIOS screen now! installing det 4.5s didn't fix it, only made it worse...

it all started when i installed the 4.6s... I am positive about that.
 
My 9000 Pro has ahd a few VPu recoveries, the effect I get in games is rainbow textures at the time, signaling its RAM related. Anyone with something 1337 like ATiTool check to see if they've added something to change the cards RAM timings when 3D apps are running or something? This is odd..
 
Tecno-Destructo said:
I know, it is not a heat issue. I think Far Cry would be a good example, I play it with almost all settings maxed, NO PROBLEMS.
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:confused: Not to harp or anything, but how does you playin' Far Cry relate to his artifacts :confused: Maybe I missed something, but I dunno.
 
corruption in the BIOS?

is the card seated correctly?

i'd take it out, get a can of air, blow out your agp port, card connectors, fan and heatsink on the card etc.... put it back in, make sure eveyrthing is seated correctly and connected, plug the computer back in and give it another shot

in the BIOS make sure you haven't accidently upped the AGP voltage, and make sure AGP is locked at 66MHz
 
If you get corruption even in the BIOS screen, I think the problem would most likely be with your GPU or monitor.

I'm actually helping a friend with a same problem except he's using a nVIDIA card. The BIOS is all messed up despite the monitor initializing just fine.
 
As people have already suggested. If this is happening at BIOS level then its not a driver issue (and it wont be until you get into your OS).

Check the seating of the card, check your PSU, check the AGP port. If that doesnt seem to work then I would suggest stripping out everything from your case and running it outside on a piece of cardboard or something...see if u still get the same problems. Again I cant stress enough that if you are having problems at BIOS level then it is not a driver issue.
 
badasspenguin said:
i'm getting the same texture corruption in City of Heroes. Rolled back to 4.5 and it's all good now.
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I am guessing you were not getting issues at BIOS level though?

If you were and now its gone then i would be very suprised...and surely that would mean the drivers also have some effect on the BIOS/firmware of the graphics card?
 
no, I wasn't having any other issues except with City of Heroes. Well, at least Farcry seemed to be ok, that's the only other game I'm currently playing.
 
note: I am an experienced computer tech.

I checked my BIOS, reseated the card, and re-heatsink greased the GPU to its HSF. before I even looked anywhere for anything. I also went back to 4.5's. I think the 4.6's do something to the card's BIOS/timings/etc

and this corruption started happening PRECISELY when I installed the 4.6 det's.

don't be so quick to say things you do not know for sure about.
 
jaqie said:
note: I am an experienced computer tech.

I checked my BIOS, reseated the card, and re-heatsink greased the GPU to its HSF. before I even looked anywhere for anything. I also went back to 4.5's. I think the 4.6's do something to the card's BIOS/timings/etc

and this corruption started happening PRECISELY when I installed the 4.6 det's.

don't be so quick to say things you do not know for sure about.
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Have you read my post above?

and surely that would mean the drivers also have some effect on the BIOS/firmware of the graphics card?

I am not ruling out the possibility that its the drivers, I am just saying that it is unlikely...i would have expected to hear a lot more people complaining about the issue if it were the drivers...
 
it's not unlikely, given some of the things that ATI has done in the past, that it would mess with the cards' bios or something to eke out better performance... and its also possible that some cards just cannot handle the new and different settings.
 
Syphon Filter said:
. . . . Again I cant stress enough that if you are having problems at BIOS level then it is not a driver issue.
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Actually, yes you did rule it out...earlier.
 
Just thought I'd chime and say that the 4.6s are running great for me on my 9800 Pro 256 (XT core and RAM). I've only been playing Far Cry, Jedi Acad, Tenebrae Quake and KOTOR since the update and all are running solid if not better in some areas.
 
Swat said:
:confused: Not to harp or anything, but how does you playin' Far Cry relate to his artifacts :confused: Maybe I missed something, but I dunno.
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Meaning that Far Cry taxes the shit out of hardware and it plays fine. CoH running in OpenGL, with Cat 4.6's is fucking up. Everyone saying heat is the issue, it's not, it's the drivers.
 
Tecno-Destructo said:
Meaning that Far Cry taxes the shit out of hardware and it plays fine. CoH running in OpenGL, with Cat 4.6's is fucking up. Everyone saying heat is the issue, it's not, it's the drivers.
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He never mentioned FarCry being his problem..actually I don't recall him even mentioning FarCry. My statement was just how does you playing FarCry with max settings help him out at all?

Anyways, back to the topic...Did you recently come from Nvidia card to the ATI? I remember when I switched from Nvidia to ATI I'd get bios corruption due to the conflicting drivers.
 
Swat said:
He never mentioned FarCry being his problem..actually I don't recall him even mentioning FarCry. My statement was just how does you playing FarCry with max settings help him out at all?

Anyways, back to the topic...Did you recently come from Nvidia card to the ATI? I remember when I switched from Nvidia to ATI I'd get bios corruption due to the conflicting drivers.
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I'M TALKING ABOUT HEAT U FUCKIN RETARD.
 
Tecno-Destructo said:
I'M TALKING ABOUT HEAT U FUCKIN RETARD.
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Whoa..chill there little one. I still think you don't realize what I'm trying to say and other then try and do it again I'll just leave it alone. No point in sparking the hormones accompanied with puberty.
 
with me, my card has been giving errors even when not hot.

I decided enough was enough.

I installed the 4.4 det's.
I opened my case like I do nearly everyday and reseated EVERYTHING. CPU RAM ribbon cables vidcard power to mobo and all devices...

I turned my system on and lo and behold the artifacts were gone, EXCEPT on the startup screen. maybe it corrupted the actual file. *shrug* about to test in games now.
 
Unfortunately, I had the same problem with a 9500 pro that started with icon coruption and ended with the dreaded checherboard pattern. Gave me a good excuse to by a 9800 pro. :D :D :D
 
ok another update if anyone really does care about whats happenin to me.

seems that did the trick...kind of sort of.

errors in ATItool, and the bootup screen is still corrupted, and some very very miniscule glitches in games, but the 2d corruption is gone and so is the startup screen corruption.

Ill let things sit for a while and see if I run into any further problems...

I think ill try the 4.7 dets when they come out.
 
Or go grab the omegas, they often fix things like this for me. I'll grab the 4.6 versions when they come out and see how that goes. *waits on omega*
 
BLECH getting artifacts again. in 2D

k, guess I should try the third party drivers. havent run omegas since my v4 4500 days.
 
if the third party dont work Im going to ask for an RMA. I emailed tech support telling them I had uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers properly, and that didnt work, and I also tried doing the same and going to 4.5 det's... and guess what they sent me.

Please reinstall your drivers like this, it will fix your issue. (same way I already did it)

idiots in tech support.
 
So you went back to old drivers and you are still having problems?

That means its either a hardware issue, or when u installed the 4.6's they caused the card to do something that permanently screwed it or they changed the way the card behaves at firmware level?
 
I went to 4.5 det's and the problems worsened! then I went to 4.4s and did all that other stuff and its not nearly as bad but its still happenin'...
 
4.5 Cats i assume you mean? What are the det's? Unless you mean Detonators? As in Nvidia drivers?!

I am assuming that that was a typing error and you meant cats. So if rolling back a couple of driver versions didnt help then i dont know what to suggest other than your hardware is knackered. Either try and get another Radeon card and see if it works in your system, or try your card in someone elses system. Its the only way to be sure. But this could always be a problem that is due to your particular config....ie your card and everything will work fine in other peoples setups but as soon as its in yours it will freak out...it happened to me with my old 9800Pro and my machine. Ended up RMA'ing the whole lot getting a refund and purchase different parts from elsewhere.
 
*sigh* ok ive been saying det and meaning cat for quite a while now. oh jeez I feel like a dumb blonde now.
 
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