3930k C2 news?

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jblaber

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Read an article that C2's were gonna be shipping on Jan 20th. Does anyone know of any updates? I've looked for news regarding the issue but haven't found anything. Thanks,

-J
 
i havent seen anything yet and this is the last part that i need.
 
Dude, I literally have a brand new comp (2x580 GTX, asus pro mobo, H80, nice corsair case, 16gb ram, 850W TX psu, 256gb SSD) just sitting next to my desk. Everything is assembled but I'm missing the CPU. Very frustrating... I thought they were supposed to start shipping the C2 stepping 3930k today from the articles ive read.
 
jblaber said:
Dude, I literally have a brand new comp (2x580 GTX, asus pro mobo, H80, nice corsair case, 16gb ram, 850W TX psu, 256gb SSD) just sitting next to my desk. Everything is assembled but I'm missing the CPU. Very frustrating... I thought they were supposed to start shipping the C2 stepping 3930k today from the articles ive read.
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That could take over a month before it hits regular stock locally if that was the case.
 
Been reloading newegg all day waiting for the C2s. I guess "released jan 20" and "on sale on newegg jan 20" aren't the same thing :)
 
jdk said:
Been reloading newegg all day waiting for the C2s. I guess "released jan 20" and "on sale on newegg jan 20" aren't the same thing :)
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Same here. All this constant waiting on products to show up at retailers is getting tiresome.
 
Right now there is a worldwide shortage on the Intel® Core™ i7-3930K, it is estimated that there may be a “trickle” hitting some of the OLRs (Online Retailers) around work week 05 or work week 06 (in other words late January or early February).
 
Im going to ask for a warranty because Intel did NOT officially tell me through my sales representative at Microcenter nor did I receive any documented attempts of Intel letting me know that the C1 chips were flawed in anyway.

I personallly depended on them providing the VT-d extensions as was advertised on the ARK before the product was released. I do heavy VM environment testing with my box and regularly load VMware ESX to test interoperability and load balancing between servers.

They better warranty this chip.

Not a good reason for "I told you so" because I surf these tech blogs does and that not make me at fault for purchasing a product that was flawed at release. I did not catch the flaw before I made my purchase unfortunately.

Good luck to those in my boat. Of course if you do NOT plan on using VT-d extensions the C1 chips are going to remain perfect for you. If you thinking they will overclock better, I have no idea but that is a bad reason to blow up the warranty line on these chips.
 
Well, shoot. I hope Intel gets this sorted. I'm glad all I've bought thus far for my upgrade is the case :p No sense in dumping more money into it until the CPU is available.
 
IntelEnthusiast said:
Right now there is a worldwide shortage on the Intel® Core™ i7-3930K, it is estimated that there may be a “trickle” hitting some of the OLRs (Online Retailers) around work week 05 or work week 06 (in other words late January or early February).
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Do you know if this "trickle" going to be C2 steppings?
 
That's pretty incredible that there is only going to be a "trickle" of 3930Ks when the more expensive 3960X is abundant. I'm sure supply all comes down to intel's profit margin being higher on the Xtreme. I want to build my X79 system now but I'm having a hard time justifying an extra $500 just for a few megs more cache and an extra 100 mhz.
 
jdk, you get the upgraded letter from K to X. Lol. I'm also waiting for the fucking C2s. Almost got everything too. I'm stuck with a Phenom 940 Be right now.
 
IntelEnthusiast said:
Right now there is a worldwide shortage on the Intel® Core™ i7-3930K, it is estimated that there may be a “trickle” hitting some of the OLRs (Online Retailers) around work week 05 or work week 06 (in other words late January or early February).
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Most of us have been under the impression that this worldwide shortage was simply due to intel running out of what C1 stepping 3930k's they were going to produce and were in the middle of the transition to the new C2 stepping which fixes at least one of the early flaws of the chip.

I was told by Intel that the new C2 stepping should start shipping on January 20th so once that happens shouldn't stock catch back up with the current demand? Or are you guys actually having trouble in the fab process with low yield compared to where current demand is at?
 
Damn,

Not to add fuel to the fire but according to this article, I figured stores would be in stock relatively quick. Especially since the article mentions that they have already delivered some samples...

I might just fall into Intel's ploy and bite the bullet on the 3960x...
 
jblaber said:
Damn,

Not to add fuel to the fire but according to this article, I figured stores would be in stock relatively quick. Especially since the article mentions that they have already delivered some samples...

I might just fall into Intel's ploy and bite the bullet on the 3960x...
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Really you can't wait? Damn.
 
The stepping change document said that 20th of January was an estimation that retailers would be receiving inventory of the c2 processors as well as c1 being sold out. So basically it means that they should be hitting newegg very soon if the estimation was correct, and hopefully on Monday as its the beginning of the work week. Since newegg has been sold out forever i assume their next shipment should be c2 steppings. Just have to play the waiting game i guess.
 
jblaber said:
Damn,

Not to add fuel to the fire but according to this article, I figured stores would be in stock relatively quick. Especially since the article mentions that they have already delivered some samples...

I might just fall into Intel's ploy and bite the bullet on the 3960x...
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That article makes it sound like the 3960X's also suffer from the same problem :confused:
 
pewter77 said:
The stepping change document said that 20th of January was an estimation that retailers would be receiving inventory of the c2 processors as well as c1 being sold out. So basically it means that they should be hitting newegg very soon if the estimation was correct, and hopefully on Monday as its the beginning of the work week. Since newegg has been sold out forever i assume their next shipment should be c2 steppings. Just have to play the waiting game i guess.
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Newegg had some stock on Monday, at least according to the auto-notify I had setup. By the time I could check they were sold out again. :(

With everybody sold out, even the distrubtors listed on Intel's website, it is a good guess that C2 is coming with all the restocks here on out.
 
will Intel do rmas for the new stepping? i hate knowing that my chip has part of it defective.
 
tangoseal said:
Im going to ask for a warranty because Intel did NOT officially tell me through my sales representative at Microcenter nor did I receive any documented attempts of Intel letting me know that the C1 chips were flawed in anyway.

I personallly depended on them providing the VT-d extensions as was advertised on the ARK before the product was released. I do heavy VM environment testing with my box and regularly load VMware ESX to test interoperability and load balancing between servers.

They better warranty this chip.

Not a good reason for "I told you so" because I surf these tech blogs does and that not make me at fault for purchasing a product that was flawed at release. I did not catch the flaw before I made my purchase unfortunately.

Good luck to those in my boat. Of course if you do NOT plan on using VT-d extensions the C1 chips are going to remain perfect for you. If you thinking they will overclock better, I have no idea but that is a bad reason to blow up the warranty line on these chips.
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According to intel documentation, VT-d was fixed in time for C1: http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1038150417&postcount=9

Did you try it and experience a failure?
 
Called into my local microcenter yesterday, said they're getting a shipment on Monday. He didn't know if it would be c2 stepping, but I'm gonna call and ask on Monday and have them check the S-spec.
 
My hardware vendor at work has 1800 of these on order with an ETA of 1/25 to their facilities.
 
Duuuuude, would they sell to a university? Regardless, good news that they are at least arriving at some places.
 
nyanko said:
The document says C1 is affected, but that the issue is fixed, so will be fixed in the next stepping.
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Are you sure of that? That document doesn't mention C2 stepping, and fixed is past tense.
The document defines it thusly:
Fixed: This erratum has been previously fixed.
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X: Errata exists in the stepping indicated. Specification Change or
Clarification that applies to this stepping.

(No mark) or (Blank box): This erratum is fixed in listed stepping or specification change
does not apply to listed stepping.
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It has an X in C-1 for Stepping. This means that this problem exists in this stepping.

The Fix just means they found a solution. But the problem still exists in C-1.

Still a chance that they could do a microcode update. But people are reading the document wrong. The only Errata they fixed in time for C-1 was ...

H3079039: XSAVE Executed During Paging-Structure Modification May Cause
Unexpected Processor Behavior
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Ok just got off the phone with technical support to comfirm this issue. The issue with VT-d was be fixed on the C1 stepping processors with a simple Bios update that should have been available from the motherboard manufacturers already since late November. So this problem shouldnt be an issue as long as you have updated the Bios.
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PM from Intel employee IntelEnthusiast.
 
So the only point is to fix this issue in the processor instead of with a bios? Seems kinda pointless to release a new stepping if it worked correctly with a bios upgrade. Kinda weird if you ask me. Must be extra issues at hand here. Maybe i just need a full explanation.
 
Stepping changes can cover a wide range of reasons. As a general rule a large change would be going from an "A" stepping to a "B" stepping. For small changes there would be a change in the number so going from "B1" to "B2". While I haven’t seen anything on why there is a change from C1 to C2 on these processors you can bet that it is a fairly small change and in the end it may only affect something down the road.
 
Oh then the latest and previous Rampage IV bios release fixed my problem. Well time to fire up some ESX action and see if it crashes on VT-d.
 
Most of the other Asus x79 boards specify on their BIOS updates that the VT-d fix was for when it is being used with the C2 steppings.
 
That explains the delay. Got 5 workstations with everything but the Core i7-3930K at this point. Never imagined that I'd wait more than a month to see another CPU show up.
 
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