12900K Overclock 5400Mhz With MSI Adaptive Voltage and AVX Offset

gerardfraser

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Tested now on two 12900K CPU's daily overclock for both 5400Mhz,also switched to Enermax LIQMAX III 360 ARGB instead of Air Cooler

This is on MSI Motherboard and not Asus one that most people seems to show.You have to do your own testing for your setup.

My PC Gaming setting with Offset adaptive voltage and AC line/DC line and LLC. Knocked of some voltage to help CPU temperatures.

Keep single threaded performance for high CPU clocks set.
Heavy workloads set to 75°C to drop CPU clock to default settings on 12900K.You can change the 75°C to higher number to keep full default performance on a Cinebench load.
You still have to test your own personal settings.

My BIOS Settings
https://postimg.cc/HrMcJCq3
https://postimg.cc/06q6DBxv
https://postimg.cc/06dzf02w
https://postimg.cc/tZBY0R6R
https://postimg.cc/KkGRs3Rs
https://postimg.cc/8fvNPTVx




Nothing fancy or difficult to follow,set clocks,voltage your comfortable with.Works the same on Intel/AMD Adaptive voltage
1.Set Turbo ratio for CPU clock
2.Set Adaptive voltage
3.Turn on C-states
4.Set temps and AVX loads to trigging when your cpu gets to hot,so voltage and temps are lowered


My BIOS Settings
https://postimg.cc/ZCwCv6sJ
https://postimg.cc/Hj274v63
https://postimg.cc/6yb2F2Jv
https://postimg.cc/RNZJP18m

Video showing how it works
 
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gerardfraser

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Moved to first post

My PC Gaming setting with Offset adaptive voltage and AC line/DC line and LLC. Knocked of some voltage to help CPU temperatures.

Keep single threaded performance for high CPU clocks set.
Heavy workloads set to 75°C to drop CPU clock to default settings on 12900K.You can change the 75°C to higher number to keep full default performance on a Cinebench load.
You still have to test your own personal settings.

My BIOS Settings
https://postimg.cc/HrMcJCq3
https://postimg.cc/06q6DBxv
https://postimg.cc/06dzf02w
https://postimg.cc/tZBY0R6R
https://postimg.cc/KkGRs3Rs
https://postimg.cc/8fvNPTVx

 
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newls1

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Thank you for this. I will try something like this when my tomahawk and 12900 show up.
 

gerardfraser

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Some Ram test on two different 12900K for the Dual Rank Gear 1 CL14 4000Mhz

(2 x 16GB) Model F4-4000C17D-32GVKB

Here are my setting on MSI PRO z690-A DDR4 on BIOS (E7D25IMS.114)

Just Primary timings not sub timings
Dual Rank Gear 1 CL14 4000Mhz
SA voltage needed to be greater than 1.45v
DRAM Voltage 1.55v
12900K Batch# V1351636
12900-K-2-DR-Gear1-CL14-4000-Mhz1.jpg


Here are my setting on MSI PRO z690-A DDR4 on BIOS (E7D25IMS.100)
Just Primary timings not sub timings
Dual Rank Gear 1 CL14 4000Mhz
SA voltage needed to be greater than 1.45v
DRAM Voltage 1.6v
12900K Batch# V1361515
Dual-Rank-Gear-1-4000.jpg
 

Elios

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Tested now on two 12900K CPU's daily overclock for both 5400Mhz,also switched to Enermax LIQMAX III 360 ARGB instead of Air Cooler

This is on MSI Motherboard and not Asus one that most people seems to show.You have to do your own testing for your setup.

My PC Gaming setting with Offset adaptive voltage and AC line/DC line and LLC. Knocked of some voltage to help CPU temperatures.

Keep single threaded performance for high CPU clocks set.
Heavy workloads set to 75°C to drop CPU clock to default settings on 12900K.You can change the 75°C to higher number to keep full default performance on a Cinebench load.
You still have to test your own personal settings.

My BIOS Settings
https://postimg.cc/HrMcJCq3
https://postimg.cc/06q6DBxv
https://postimg.cc/06dzf02w
https://postimg.cc/tZBY0R6R
https://postimg.cc/KkGRs3Rs
https://postimg.cc/8fvNPTVx




Nothing fancy or difficult to follow,set clocks,voltage your comfortable with.Works the same on Intel/AMD Adaptive voltage
1.Set Turbo ratio for CPU clock
2.Set Adaptive voltage
3.Turn on C-states
4.Set temps and AVX loads to trigging when your cpu gets to hot,so voltage and temps are lowered


My BIOS Settings
https://postimg.cc/ZCwCv6sJ
https://postimg.cc/Hj274v63
https://postimg.cc/6yb2F2Jv
https://postimg.cc/RNZJP18m

Video showing how it works

nice finally some screen shots of bios settings
 
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A little of topic but I notice you have MSI dragon Power installed. That allows overclocking in windows, right? The only thing I didn't see on the list was ref clock overclocking, is that possible from windows as well?

Reason I say that is because I have a MSI MEG z390 ACE and have msi dragon center installed, which allows overclocking from windows as well.

I was able to get my 9600KF up to 5.8GHz because changing frequencies via dragon center on the fly is much lighter load on the system than a windows boot. In other words, I would boot to windows at 5.3 GHz and then use the MSI software to ratchet it up to 5.8GHz. Took a while, wasnt a walk in the park but definitely worthwhile if you get a good result out of it.

Im wondering how your new chip would respond to that... though I don't know if you'd want to push this kind of voltage through your shiny , expensive, brand new CPU.

Here is my validation with the 9600KF rig

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EDIT: And get me wrong. I prefer bios overclocking to windows overclocking every day of the week. Just in this case I can make an exception because it allows you to capitalize on untapped potential :)
 

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A little of topic but I notice you have MSI dragon Power installed. That allows overclocking in windows, right? The only thing I didn't see on the list was ref clock overclocking, is that possible from windows as well?

Reason I say that is because I have a MSI MEG z390 ACE and have msi dragon center installed, which allows overclocking from windows as well.

I was able to get my 9600KF up to 5.8GHz because changing frequencies via dragon center on the fly is much lighter load on the system than a windows boot. In other words, I would boot to windows at 5.3 GHz and then use the MSI software to ratchet it up to 5.8GHz. Took a while, wasnt a walk in the park but definitely worthwhile if you get a good result out of it.

Im wondering how your new chip would respond to that... though I don't know if you'd want to push this kind of voltage through your shiny , expensive, brand new CPU.

Here is my validation with the 9600KF rig

View attachment 444328

EDIT: And get me wrong. I prefer bios overclocking to windows overclocking every day of the week. Just in this case I can make an exception because it allows you to capitalize on untapped potential :)

One could argue that if it can't boot into Windows, then it's not a very stable OC. Unless you're just going for a suicide shot.
 
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One could argue that if it can't boot into Windows, then it's not a very stable OC. Unless you're just going for a suicide shot.
Oh yes I freely admit that. I should have said this OC is for validations only. The system is most definitely not stable it's right at the limit. When you start approaching the limits of the chip you eventually have to trade reliability for performance, just the nature of the beast. It was fun to chase all out frequency for once.
 
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And 1.60+ Vcore = danger zone!
Yeah I wouldn't recommend it. Granted I had pretty good sub zero cooling (ambient, upstate NY) at the time t's still not healthy on a regular basis. I only had it at that speed for a few minutes. Enough to get a couple test results and some validations.
 

gerardfraser

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A little of topic but I notice you have MSI dragon Power installed. That allows overclocking in windows, right? The only thing I didn't see on the list was ref clock overclocking, is that possible from windows as well?

Reason I say that is because I have a MSI MEG z390 ACE and have msi dragon center installed, which allows overclocking from windows as well.

I was able to get my 9600KF up to 5.8GHz because changing frequencies via dragon center on the fly is much lighter load on the system than a windows boot. In other words, I would boot to windows at 5.3 GHz and then use the MSI software to ratchet it up to 5.8GHz. Took a while, wasnt a walk in the park but definitely worthwhile if you get a good result out of it.

Im wondering how your new chip would respond to that... though I don't know if you'd want to push this kind of voltage through your shiny , expensive, brand new CPU.

Here is my validation with the 9600KF rig

View attachment 444328

EDIT: And get me wrong. I prefer bios overclocking to windows overclocking every day of the week. Just in this case I can make an exception because it allows you to capitalize on untapped potential :)

I have not used the tools to overclock on the MSI Motherboard,I never had a need to use them.They were just installed to show the Voltages and Ram Timings.


Funny enough, you have seen these settings before in a thread on overclock.net. I have ran two different 12900K up to 5700Mhz all core for PC Gaming,I did not try any higher. Daily I run 5400Mhz all core and have been since release in Nov 2021 with the same settings posted in first thread.
5700Mhz HWinfo64/CPU-z no offset voltage
5700.jpg

Here is a 5600Mhz all core with no offset voltage. Can get hot but with AVX offset to downclock all is fine and like I mentioned I run the 5400Mhz 24/7 with BIOS settings and offset voltage, set to downclock at 75°C to 4900Mhz

5600Mhz All core with voltage showing on ON screen display for anyone interested on air cooling.


5400Mhz All core 3 Hours PC Gameplay with offset voltage overclock in first post, Temperatures between 25°C -55°C
 

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CPU manufacturers deliberately disabling performance for product stack and relative competition. Same as it has always been.
 

gerardfraser

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CPU manufacturers deliberately disabling performance for product stack and relative competition. Same as it has always been.
Intal putting out the new 12900KS with boost 5500Mhz,they will be tricking a bunch of people.Claiming the fastest PC Gaming speeds at 720p with RTX 3090 and people will eat that shit up.


Very impressive.
Truth is default settings at 4900Mhz on 12900K gives the same FPS with my PC Gaming,I just run 5400Mhz all core for my huge giant E-peen ego.
 
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Intal putting out the new 12900KS with boost 5500Mhz,they will be tricking a bunch of people.Claiming the fastest PC Gaming speeds at 720p with RTX 3090 and people will eat that shit up.



Truth is default settings at 4900Mhz on 12900K gives the same FPS with my PC Gaming,I just run 5400Mhz all core for my huge giant E-peen ego.

If some can get 5.4 ghz on the 12900K, people will likely get a bit more speed and /or lower voltages with the KS.

And let's be real, anything north of a $200 11400 is a waste anyway if your focus is gaming.
 
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