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5090 in stock and it looks like it is staying in stock

Sycraft said:
I don't think that is stubborn, I think that is accurate and that comes from someone who owns one and uses it to game often. Don't get me wrong: I like mine, I'm glad to have one. It is fun and I enjoy getting good frame rates even when turning shit up to ludicrous detail levels in games like Cyberpunk. But is it absolutely NOT necessary. It is a nice luxury. I also game on my laptop which has a 4080 mobile, so like a 4070 or a bit less of performance. That works completely fine, games still look great and I still get to have lots of fun. Yes I prefer the 5090, of course I do, but it isn't necessary to enjoy gaming.

I would liken it to any other luxury like luxury cars: Yes, nice to have if you can (and choose to) afford one but 100% NOT needed.
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I agree with both of you. I have a 5090 in my main rig. I also have an Intel ARC B580 in the little portable rig I built last year for ~$1k before prices went nuts. The portable rig can handle any game I have, and I went looking for heavy stuff after getting my hands on the 5090. Already had CyberPunk 2077, but I added Doom the Dark Ages (mandatory RT + optional path tracing), Indiana Jones and the Great Circle (mandatory RT + optional path tracing), and Borderlands 4 (runs like path tracing on the "badass" preset even though it doesn't use RT). All of them run ok on the budget portable rig with a B580. Of course I have to lower settings, use XeSS, etc. but if that's all I had I'd still play them.

Comparing a luxury car to a 5090 is an excellent analogy IMHO, at least for gaming. It's nice but totally unnecessary. Of course there are other uses where you might actually need a 5090 or something even more expensive, but for gaming? Nah. Even 8GB cards still work fine even though we shit on them constantly. They're just stuck at lower settings, and it mostly hits textures. They're so common that AAA games will support them for years to come, just at reduced settings.

Personally I won't mind if next gen is delayed a bit. It'll let me have the top card for longer without spending $.
 
zandor said:
Personally I won't mind if next gen is delayed a bit. It'll let me have the top card for longer without spending $.
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I believe this is what's going to happen.

I also agree that a 5070 TI will be good for most if not all people that play games. I just wanted to get one more high end build in before I throw in the towel.
 
I get more out of gaming on my 85 inch oled tv with my ps5 and my couch and my wife gaming with me than any PC game. I enjoy games, and long ago stopped chasing visual candy. That said, I am super excited for games like Fable to have AI powered NPCs that remember conversations and have unscripted behavior (not saying the new Fable will, but it would be great if it did).
 
I wanted a 5090 and I had the money but the power/melt issues were enough to make me go with a 5080.

Also, I used to run a full custom loop (for silence) and now that I'm working in office (and traveling), I didn't feel comfortable not being around should it leak.

I paid the premium for the Noctua edition 5080 and did a full Noctua air conversion.

No regrats.
 
I'm power limiting my HP 5090 to like 450W at the moment for AI use. Barely lost anything in terms of compute speed, went down like 10-12% in exchange for a massive power reduction. Was as simple as "sudo nvidia-smi -pl 450".

Basically running at 4090 power levels and getting a large net compute and vram bump.

On gaming it might be a noticeable drop, but for AI use it matters a lot less. Should be much safer for the connector.
 
StoleMyOwnCar said:
I'm power limiting my HP 5090 to like 450W at the moment for AI use. Barely lost anything in terms of compute speed, went down like 10-12% in exchange for a massive power reduction. Was as simple as "sudo nvidia-smi -pl 450".
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If there's a way on Linux to modify the voltage curve like you can in MSI Afterburner you can likely get that kind of power reduction with no performance hit. I undervolted mine following what this guide said and it seems nice and stable, and draws around 470W max in game (usually less). In my testing (gaming, not AI) I found that Steel Nomad actually gained a little performance whereas Speedway was the same to within less than a percent.
 
Sycraft said:
If there's a way on Linux to modify the voltage curve like you can in MSI Afterburner you can likely get that kind of power reduction with no performance hit. I undervolted mine following what this guide said and it seems nice and stable, and draws around 470W max in game (usually less). In my testing (gaming, not AI) I found that Steel Nomad actually gained a little performance whereas Speedway was the same to within less than a percent.
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Was gonna suggest the same. Seems like the only possible downside is stability for undervolting, but for linux and non-gaming usages crashing isn't as big an issue for the rare workload vs saving 30% of power with the exact same performance as stock.

If anything the 5090 is already a bit undervolted simply due to the limitations of the 12vhpwr/12v2x6 connector being limited to 600w. AIB cards have shown that it can easily handle 1000w+
 
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