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all in on Linux as my main OS

Vengance_01 said:
I have decided to sell my 2 Windows desktops (1 is mine and the other is my Wifes) and both of us will now use a BC-250 as our main desktop with Bazzite for now. I have been Daily driving this for about 2 weeks. I don't miss Windows 1 bit. I don't game nearly as much and the BC-250 has plenty of power and with the dynamic memory allocation... I can use all 16GB for system ram when needed. I have been super impressed how stable this BC-250 has been with Bazzite. My Kids computers might be next. But we shall see :p
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Welcome to the family! I've been daily driving Linux for last 8 years or so, all my machines are Linux or FreeBSD, not missing Windows at all. And I game a lot. 🙂 Linux is mature enough now, even LTT team is doing a Linux challenge (again).
 
Axman said:
Oh yeah he only had close to 10 times the commits than everyone else put together, he wasn't important.
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Important and un replaceable are not the same thing.

Yes by all reports he was a major contributor. It was still a team project like any other Linux distro. Bazitte from what I have seen has grown a fairly large group of contributes. It was never a one man show. I think the evidence is the 3 or 4 update cycles they have done since this guys booting.

Bottom line he started acting like a bit of an ass. Started treating the project like it was HIS. Seemingly used his position to try and make some personal gain for himself. That will generally get you booted from most open source projects. Even if you do 90% of the work. (which he did not) He has already been replaced, they will roll on. Its not like its impossible to find people to maintain a popular distro.... we aren't talking about kernel development here. Nothing this guy was doing was hard. Just time consuming.
 
ChadD said:
Important and un replaceable are not the same thing.
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That's a big assumption to say that he will be competently replaced. Also, no, he was fired for being "transphobic," which we all know is a BS excuse.

There are other one-man projects like Nobara and Omarchy, so one person working on a project can have an enormous influence.
 
Axman said:
That's a big assumption to say that he will be competently replaced. Also, no, he was fired for being "transphobic," which we all know is a BS excuse.

There are other one-man projects like Nobara and Omarchy, so one person working on a project can have an enormous influence.
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Bro it's been almost 4 months and they've had several big updates since then, including one from a couple of weeks ago ... reported by the same person you linked to talking about the departure. Please, just let it go. This is honestly just sad at this point.
 
Vengance_01 said:
I have decided to sell my 2 Windows desktops (1 is mine and the other is my Wifes) and both of us will now use a BC-250 as our main desktop with Bazzite for now. I have been Daily driving this for about 2 weeks. I don't miss Windows 1 bit. I don't game nearly as much and the BC-250 has plenty of power and with the dynamic memory allocation... I can use all 16GB for system ram when needed. I have been super impressed how stable this BC-250 has been with Bazzite. My Kids computers might be next. But we shall see :p
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Welcome out of maintainance hell and back to owning your own computer again! :p

There are sacrificed to be made using Linux, but there are sacrifices made to use Windows and Mac too.

Windows is the best all-around for hardware and software support.
Mac has a good, but closed ecosystem. Good for professional applications.
Linux is the only OS you can make yours.

I have run Bazzite on my living room PC since summer 2024 and its been a joy to use. Some sacrifices had to be made compared to use Windows, but I felt the sacrifices using Windows instead of Bazzite was worse. Low maintanance, ultra high stability and ease of use for a living room PC made Bazzite the obvious choice for my use case.

I think the longer you and your wife use Bazzite, the more you will appreciate it! Best of luck!

For the kids, check the online games they play on ProtonDB first if they play games. Some online titles dont work on Linux due to developer choices with anti-cheat (Fortnite and Roblox are big kids titles). Maybe you need dual boot there. Bazzite support secure boot if needed.
 
If Windows came out tomorrow with a stripped down OS with zero spy - data collection - Ai, looking like win 7, I would pay 300 bucks and never look back.

I know that will never happen because that's what we all want, in this day and time you rarely ever get a product that has 90% of everything you want.

Looks like dual boot from hear on out.
 
mullet said:
If Windows came out tomorrow with a stripped down OS with zero spy - data collection - Ai, looking like win 7, I would pay 300 bucks and never look back.
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I'm hoping the stripped down Windows OS being made for the next Xbox ends up being this - however, I've been very happy with Bazzite on my gaming desktop and handheld pc.
 
mullet said:
If Windows came out tomorrow with a stripped down OS with zero spy - data collection - Ai, looking like win 7, I would pay 300 bucks and never look back.

I know that will never happen because that's what we all want, in this day and time you rarely ever get a product that has 90% of everything you want.

Looks like dual boot from hear on out.
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I still ain't going back since I know updating would still suck...
 
mullet said:
If Windows came out tomorrow with a stripped down OS with zero spy - data collection - Ai, looking like win 7, I would pay 300 bucks and never look back.

I know that will never happen because that's what we all want, in this day and time you rarely ever get a product that has 90% of everything you want.

Looks like dual boot from hear on out.
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I wouldn't use it much less pay for it. Under the hood it's still going to be trash with a filesystem that was created at the same time as the Giza Pyramids, a scheduler that's dumber than any of the stones making up the Pyramids and bloated resource management that wouldn't fit even inside the Great Pyramid.

The problems with Windows are inherent to the core of the OS. Removing some pieces of a piece of shit still leaves a piece of shit. Short of a complete re-write from the ground up, Windows cannot get better and will only get worse.
 
I'm up to three Bazzite and two Mint machines, the living room PC is still Windows 11 because I'm holding out for the Steam Machine to go there.
 
mullet said:
If Windows came out tomorrow with a stripped down OS with zero spy - data collection - Ai, looking like win 7, I would pay 300 bucks and never look back.

I know that will never happen because that's what we all want, in this day and time you rarely ever get a product that has 90% of everything you want.

Looks like dual boot from hear on out.
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Data collection is only going to get worse. Windows is a cesspool for telemetry, data mining and user profiling. The good, old, Windows 7 days are gone from Microsoft and now an installation of Windows asks you if you want your ads to be targeted personally or generic (and by personally they dont mean a rep from Microsoft is going to call you and ask what your interests are). There is too much money in data collection. Install a driver on Windows and chances are there are some data collection. New laptops come with HP/Dell/Lenovo etc own data collection tools. Its not only Microsoft. Windows as an OS enables a lot of players mining data from you.

You cannot avoid data collection, not even on Linux, but on Linux you have many roadblocks (permissions, containers, sandboxed enviroments) and the OS itself does not work against you. At least you can reduce and manage it better.

As you said, dual boot if you need Windows for anything or when Linux does not have an alternative or there is an online option. Linux is the closest to the Windows 7 experience today and ironically many Windows 7 era programs and games works better on Linux. :p

Windows have things that simply are better then Linux (windows explorer is superior to anything I have seen on Linux as example). But there are many sacrifices to be made using Windows and sacrifices using Linux seems less every day.
 
Mazzspeed said:
Talking about Steam, the 64 bit beta under Linux is actually really good, especially on Nvidia hardware running Wayland.
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Very good news! Having good SteamOS support on Nvidia too is very important to get an install base big enough for developers to target SteamOS.
 
learners permit said:
Please elaborate or link to your findings?
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Hardware acceleration can be enabled without UI glitching, meaning Steam Big Picture Mode doesn't lag anymore, there's really no more to say.

Tamlin_WSGF said:
Having good SteamOS support on Nvidia
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Note: I'm talking about Steam the app, not SteamOS the OS.

Tamlin_WSGF said:
windows explorer is superior to anything I have seen on Linux as example
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Personally I think Dolphin craps on Explorer.
 
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Tamlin_WSGF said:
Data collection is only going to get worse. Windows is a cesspool for telemetry, data mining and user profiling. The good, old, Windows 7 days are gone from Microsoft and now an installation of Windows asks you if you want your ads to be targeted personally or generic (and by personally they dont mean a rep from Microsoft is going to call you and ask what your interests are). There is too much money in data collection. Install a driver on Windows and chances are there are some data collection. New laptops come with HP/Dell/Lenovo etc own data collection tools. Its not only Microsoft. Windows as an OS enables a lot of players mining data from you.

You cannot avoid data collection, not even on Linux, but on Linux you have many roadblocks (permissions, containers, sandboxed enviroments) and the OS itself does not work against you. At least you can reduce and manage it better.

As you said, dual boot if you need Windows for anything or when Linux does not have an alternative or there is an online option. Linux is the closest to the Windows 7 experience today and ironically many Windows 7 era programs and games works better on Linux. :p

Windows have things that simply are better then Linux (windows explorer is superior to anything I have seen on Linux as example). But there are many sacrifices to be made using Windows and sacrifices using Linux seems less every day.
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You have a very outdated view on Linux... might want to try some modern distros & get back with us.
 
CrimsonKnight13 said:
You have a very outdated view on Linux... might want to try some modern distros & get back with us.
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If you were talking about this part:
You cannot avoid data collection, not even on Linux, but on Linux you have many roadblocks (permissions, containers, sandboxed enviroments) and the OS itself does not work against you. At least you can reduce and manage it better.
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He was talking about roadblocks to data collection.

Otherwise, I don't see any other negatives he mentioned other than Explorer being a better file manager than what is available for Linux, which...I almost agree with.
 
Nobu said:
If you were talking about this part:

He was talking about roadblocks to data collection.

Otherwise, I don't see any other negatives he mentioned other than Explorer being a better file manager than what is available for Linux, which...I almost agree with.
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You can definitely avoid a ton of data collection with ad & telemetry blocking on Linux. Also installing apps that have telemetry & ads removed go a long way. If one is so inclined, using a homelab to go even further is helpful.
 
Mazzspeed said:
Hardware acceleration can be enabled without UI glitching, meaning Steam Big Picture Mode doesn't lag anymore, there's really no more to say.



Note: I'm talking about Steam the app, not SteamOS the OS.



Personally I think Dolphin craps on Explorer.
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Thanks for clearing that up as I thought you were talking about Steam OS. I'm hoping they'll eventually bring much broader hardware support to it. I think it may be more than they planned so I'll wait and see.
 
Mazzspeed said:
In what way is Explorer better than Dolphin? I'd really like to know.
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I don't like the way sort works, otherwise dolphin is better imo. And I think sort can be fixed to work the way I want, I just haven't bothered yet.
 
CrimsonKnight13 said:
You can definitely avoid a ton of data collection with ad & telemetry blocking on Linux. Also installing apps that have telemetry & ads removed go a long way. If one is so inclined, using a homelab to go even further is helpful.
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Which is exactly what he said, in other words.
 
Nobu said:
Which is exactly what he said, in other words.
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No, I didn't say the same thing. I said additionally, which is to say that modern distros & open source software offer way more than just what was mentioned with older ones.
 
Nobu said:
I don't like the way sort works, otherwise dolphin is better imo. And I think sort can be fixed to work the way I want, I just haven't bothered yet.
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I find clicking the 'tiles' dropdown and going to 'Sort By' works fine? I love how you can make folders different colors under Dolphin, makes quickly identifying a folder trivially simple. Under Windows you either have to use OneDrive or third party addons.
 
Mazzspeed said:
I find clicking the 'tiles' dropdown and going to 'Sort By' works fine? I love how you can make folders different colors under Dolphin, makes quickly identifying a folder trivially simple. Under Windows you either have to use OneDrive or third party addons.
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I usually use the right-click menu, but it changes back when I change folders. I need to change the default somewhere.
 
Nobu said:
I usually use the right-click menu, but it changes back when I change folders. I need to change the default somewhere.
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The change definitely sticks here, the right click menu may only be temporary. Try using what I call the tiles icon > 'Sort By' as highlighted in the screenshot (for some reason I can't take a screenshot of the dropdown menu):

Tiles icon Dolphin.png
 
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CrimsonKnight13 said:
You can definitely avoid a ton of data collection with ad & telemetry blocking on Linux. Also installing apps that have telemetry & ads removed go a long way. If one is so inclined, using a homelab to go even further is helpful.
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I think you got my post wrong and Nobu got it corret. I was talking about Linux puts up a lot of roadblocks against datacollection (and yes, its possible to put up even more). Permissions, containers, sandboxing prevents in my larger degrees systemwide datacollection. On Bazzite the preferred choice is Flatpak with Flatseal preinstalled if you wish to give an app more permissions, which limits datamining by sandboxing. Bazzite by default puts up more roadblocks against datacollection, while on Windows its the oposite (OS, some drivers, preinstalled software from HP/Dell(lenovo etc wants to collect info as well before you install your first program yourself).

That was my point. You cannot avoid it on Linux with normal usage, but you have much better control on Linux to reduce it. Especially system wide. I am aware that its possible for those that want more privacy can go even further by making a dedicated firewall for this like pfsense/opnsense, but my point is about what can be avoided from the OS side. :)

Mazzspeed said:
In what way is Explorer better than Dolphin? I'd really like to know.
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For me, its context menu and network mounts espectially. Windows explorer feels more fleshed out in function then Dolphin.
 
Tamlin_WSGF said:
For me, its context menu and network mounts espectially. Windows explorer feels more fleshed out in function then Dolphin.
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In the LHS pane under the 'Remote' heading, click 'Network' > 'Add Network Folder', or browse for shares. Once done, add the share as a favorite and it will appear under the Remote heading for quick and easy access. Done.

It's really no harder than the same process under Explorer. See example below of my NAS as a network share as well as a folder shared with my secondary PC running CachyOS with Plasma 6.6.5:

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Nobu said:
I don't like the way sort works, otherwise dolphin is better imo. And I think sort can be fixed to work the way I want, I just haven't bothered yet.
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I hate windows grouping, how many times do I need to ungroup before it will stop grouping.

Funny story this weekend my Windows PC tried to switch to linux all by itself! I wake up in the middle of the night my office is lit up like someone is working in there, fan running, desk underglow is glowing, wall decore is lit up. I walk in slowly, linux is on the PC. WHAT!?!
It took me a few seconds (sleep head)
I have a power strip that turns on lights, speakers, fans, when my PC is powered up.
I just put linux ISO on a usb drive and left it in the PC when I went to bed.
I told windows to sleep for the night and not update.
Windows woke up did the update rebooted into linux then did not go back to sleep.

I want to replace my steamlink, it did a few updates to the steamlink a few months-ish and has been stuttering since claiming poor internet. I even wired the steamlink thinking that would resolve, it did not.
Anyway I am trying Bazzite on a mini. Results so far: I had issues streaming games from my gaming PC, but I suspect it is the wifi card in the mini. I will try wired to be sure, I noticed even thought it is a 2.5gb ethernet card it connected at 1gb speeds. The only other test I did was test some games locally on the mini and every game was flawless. Bezzite boots right into Steambig pic, flawlessly. Leaving is easy. Desktop seems pretty good, and the one button to go back to Big Pic mode is pretty nice.

(I reread what I typed and I can see anyone assuming somehow my wifi network degraded and maybe a coincidence that it happened at the same time as the update, but I have turned on a new for testing and gave it a new SSID and connected JUST the 1 device to it, that and the plugged in is still getting the rare drop out).
 
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Mazzspeed said:
What, exactly, is windows grouping?
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Like when you sort by size (looking for an old iso) but it is grouped by date. So your largest file this week shows at top instead of the actual largest file in the directory.
 
CaffeineMan said:
Like when you sort by size (looking for an old iso) but it is grouped by date. So your largest file this week shows at top instead of the actual largest file in the directory.
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When I select sort by size under Dolphin my results are sorted by size regardless of date.
 
Mazzspeed said:
When I select sort by size under Dolphin my results are sorted by size regardless of date.
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He was talking about an explorer feature, I think, in Windows. Not sure if Dolphin does "group by...," need to check.
 
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