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DDR6 Development Aims for Commercial Shipments in 2028

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“Last year, we reported that the major players mentioned above had already moved past the prototype stages and embarked on rigorous validation cycles. Perhaps the most interesting aspect is the designated throughput of 8,800 MT/s, with plans to scale up to a staggering 17,600 MT/s, nearly doubling the ceiling of today's DDR5. This increase is driven by DDR6's 4×24-bit sub-channel architecture, which requires entirely new approaches to signal integrity. It also differs from DDR5's current 2x32-bit sub-channel structure. To overcome the physical limits faced by DIMM form factors at higher speeds, the industry is betting on CAMM2 technology. Early indications suggest that server platforms will lead the change, with high-end notebooks following once manufacturing ramps up.

Last year's developments pointed to a 2027 launch. However, this may only apply to customer validation, as commercialization is now expected in 2028. With new server shipments and overall DDR5 usage around 80% last year, and expected to reach about 90% this year, the older DDR4 memory is now being considered for discontinuation. This would make room for newer standards and free up major fab capacity to manufacture these new DDR6 modules.“

Source: https://www.techpowerup.com/348749/ddr6-development-aims-for-commercial-shipments-in-2028
 
And here I am still on DDR 4!
I guess this means the end of the DIMM and SO-DIMM form factors then?
ddr5 memory training is awful

honestly i prefer ddr4 and prior

i had some bad experiences with failed boots, especially my
very first time without knowing what to expect and having never heard about this “memory training”
 
Never had the pleasure of having anything with DDR 5 come my way so I don't even know what "Memory Training" means LoL!
it’s a junk part of ddr5

it has to train each boot

and cold boots (say bios flash, etc) it takes up to 10-20
minutes
 
Never had the pleasure of having anything with DDR 5 come my way so I don't even know what "Memory Training" means LoL!
Ever put together a new computer - and then there's that moment of crossing your fingers just after you button it all up and hit the power button for the first bootup? The memory training feels like that every dang time you boot the computer; there's a random long delay before you see anything on the screen from the bios.
 
Never had the pleasure of having anything with DDR 5 come my way so I don't even know what "Memory Training" means LoL!
Ever put together a new computer - and then there's that moment of crossing your fingers just after you button it all up and hit the power button for the first bootup? The memory training feels like that every dang time you boot the computer; there's a random long delay before you see anything on the screen from the bios.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/186lg6j/am5_memory_training_taking_over_45_minutes/

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Ever put together a new computer - and then there's that moment of crossing your fingers just after you button it all up and hit the power button for the first bootup? The memory training feels like that every dang time you boot the computer; there's a random long delay before you see anything on the screen from the bios.
Must be limited to just some platforms. I have a DDR5 desktop and laptop, and have for quite some time (desktop is over 3 years old) and both boot lightning fast. We have a few hundred DDR5 systems at work and I've never encountered this, though I've not interacted with every one of them.
 
Wake me up when we have QDR available at a reasonable price with supporting hardware. DDR is an old pig being stretched to its limits from 'innovation'. Not that it is bad but I believe we need something that is new, not revised to [H]ell and back.
 
Even DDR4 is skewed in price
Yep that is true! All because of that damn AI BS!

See the current price of this set of DDR 4
Vs. what I paid for it back in December of 2022

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I can't imagine AM5 supporting DDR6 since it's been around for most of the time we've had DDR5, but I'm hoping LGA1954 sockets can handle it. If not Intel won't keep their new socket around all that long. And of course AM6 or whatever AMD calls their next socket will presumably support DDR6.
 
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I can't imagine AM5 supporting DDR6 since it's been around for most of the time we've had DDR5, but I'm hoping LGA1954 boards can handle it. If not Intel won't keep their new socket around all that long. And of course AM6 or whatever AMD calls their next socket will presumably support DDR6.

MLID leak shows/suggested Zen 7 gonna be AM5 so at most (least?) DDR6/AM6 (on AMD consumer side) wont be around till 2029-2030
 
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