One of the worse PC builds you seen.....

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Not sure the best place to post this, so MODs move it if you like.

You thought you cringed at The Verge PC build video? Well get a load of this beauty from Britec09 channel!


TimsComputerRepair original video.
 

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Honestly tho, we've all built like this in the past. You see these people spending an extra $100+ just on cable sleeves, longer extensions so they can tuck their runs out of the way, all in the name of keeping the PC "cooler", when in reality its just aesthetics. They want a clean case, its a source of pride as opposed to the rats nest of cables old MB's and case designs forced upon us. You test a rats next box and one of those streamlined boxes, the case temps are usually barely different, and even if they are let's say 5 to 10 degrees.....its ambient temps, meaning unless those are on the die causing your chips to throttle, it's irrelevant.
I, like probably all of you, do a streamlined build as well.....but the reality is if we just shoved that shit into our cases willy-nilly, they'd still work. You aren't getting 100Mhz more overclock out of "really snazzy cable management"....air goes in, air goes out, atmospheric pressure is your friend.....

Unless you're like..deep sea diving then.....pressure is not your friend.....its your bitter, bitter enemy :(
 

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Honestly tho, we've all built like this in the past. You see these people spending an extra $100+ just on cable sleeves, longer extensions so they can tuck their runs out of the way, all in the name of keeping the PC "cooler", when in reality its just aesthetics. They want a clean case, its a source of pride as opposed to the rats nest of cables old MB's and case designs forced upon us. You test a rats next box and one of those streamlined boxes, the case temps are usually barely different, and even if they are let's say 5 to 10 degrees.....its ambient temps, meaning unless those are on the die causing your chips to throttle, it's irrelevant.
I, like probably all of you, do a streamlined build as well.....but the reality is if we just shoved that shit into our cases willy-nilly, they'd still work. You aren't getting 100Mhz more overclock out of "really snazzy cable management"....air goes in, air goes out, atmospheric pressure is your friend.....

Unless you're like..deep sea diving then.....pressure is not your friend.....its your bitter, bitter enemy :(
I take it you didn't watch the video then. o_O
 

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Both the showings of customer PC cases and the 4-5 times repeat talk about the harddrives is a bit strange to me (not sure why one would care so much why the customer want many drive in their PC, nice occassion for you to sales them a PCI to sata adapter and time to setup), specially if they spend the money on 10tb drive less assume they need the space, I thought it would be a collection of old 320gb to 1tb at first the way it was presented.

Same goes to the surprise that the PSU with an literal actual 80 platinum certification logo on it is not a cheap one.... on a computer fill with really expensive part
 

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Honestly tho, we've all built like this in the past.

No, no we haven't. I started building my own PCs with mail order parts right after the Pentium II came out and I've only seen a few PCs like this, usually from craigslist. This is the same kind of thing as people that fill their car with McDonalds bags because they're too lazy and used to living like a pig.
 

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Not sure the best place to post this, so MODs move it if you like.

You thought you cringed at The Verge PC build video? Well get a load of this beauty from Britec09 channel!


TimsComputerRepair original video.

TIm needs to learn how to speak without pausing for thought every three words.
 

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Oof. I don't know that I've ever seen PC builds that... hostile(?)... before.


No. I have secured all my motherboards and video cards to the chassis.

+1. And my cables have never been that sloppy. I remember getting longer IDE and floppy cables to bend/fold and route them to be out of the way of the one or two 80 mm fans cases came with back then. Damn kids and their SATA cables and m.2 slots, too good for floppy disks... And get off my lawn!


TIm needs to learn how to speak without pausing for thought every three words.

I swear every YT video is like that to draw it out to get more ads in. I always have to run at 1.25x speed.
 

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Watching those videos reminded me of the upgrade on the 386 my brother and his friends did to the family computer. Since the case was an 80s desktop case the expansion slots were horizontal (like the case). So the new motherboard with a modern PCI layout (no daughterboard) had to be installed vertically in the horizontal case. I still remember the 8 MB of RAM which were 8 SIPPs so much better than the 2 MB of RAM we had before. Even my brother and his friends knew enough to put stuff in place to isolate the motherboard from the metal of the case. Even then the case was replaced as soon as it could be to fix the exposed motherboard.
 

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20 years ago back when windowed PC's weren't really a thing,

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TIm needs to learn how to speak without pausing for thought every three words.
Nah, you can't speak for 15 minutes without pause. Most youtubers appear that way by editing out the pauses. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, just how the sausage is made. Clearly this guy is not prepared to make that effort, which is why he's stuck at 20k.
 

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Not sure the best place to post this, so MODs move it if you like.

You thought you cringed at The Verge PC build video? Well get a load of this beauty from Britec09 channel!

The video draws the wrong conclusions. You can make things fit into cases that were not meant for them without ruining components.
It's not about money either, sometimes you just have a certain aesthetic of functional goal (or do not want the wife to find out you upgraded the PC again).

I'm a veteran of hacking up cases to make them fit more / different hardware than they were supposed to. I've started with building a PII PC into an old VHS VCR.
 

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20 years ago back when windowed PC's weren't really a thing,

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Maybe premods ( :sick: ) but I was cutting windows in cases and even water-cooling 1999/2000 timeframe. Back when the men were boys, the girls were men, and children were FBI agents. Also junkyards and home improvement stores were a source of PC parts.
 

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Both the showings of customer PC cases and the 4-5 times repeat talk about the harddrives is a bit strange to me (not sure why one would care so much why the customer want many drive in their PC, nice occassion for you to sales them a PCI to sata adapter and time to setup), specially if they spend the money on 10tb drive less assume they need the space, I thought it would be a collection of old 320gb to 1tb at first the way it was presented.

Same goes to the surprise that the PSU with an literal actual 80 platinum certification logo on it is not a cheap one.... on a computer fill with really expensive part

I thought it was strange also... the entire presentation seemed staged to me.... or someone is trolling his shop hardcore lol
 

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Welcome to 2006 when I was 15. My P4 3.4Ghz "gaming server" for Counter Strike and my AMD X2, 6600GT SLI gaming machine. These are the oldest images that I have of those PC's. I built my first PC in 2004 which was basically my dad old PC that I put back together, that's the machine that became the server lol. Also back then, I gave zero crap about wiring management.

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I'm of the opinion that as long as it works, the cables don't get into the fans, and isn't constantly throttling you're good to go. Most PC's used to look pretty ratty back in the day because there were no case windows.
Most cable management and "airflow optimization" is really just for aesthetics. I'm guilty of it, but it honestly rarely matters.
 

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I'm of the opinion that as long as it works, the cables don't get into the fans, and isn't constantly throttling you're good to go. Most PC's used to look pretty ratty back in the day because there were no case windows.
Most cable management and "airflow optimization" is really just for aesthetics. I'm guilty of it, but it honestly rarely matters.
This.
Linus Tech Tips had a video a few years ago where they tested a messy build versus a really tidy one, and the results they got amounted to basically that, unless you deliberately fill the case up completely, it doesn't make a measurable difference. I'm sure Steve of GamersNexus would have an aneurysm and start lecturing me about "But their methodology!!" or crowing about how only he is equipped to do that test properly, but yeah, as long as you're getting air in and out of the case somehow, it apparently doesn't matter in any practical way.
 

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This did remind me of my early days of PC upgrades where I would use two screws to screw in one side of the hard drive, but it was really that I didn't know any better and wasn't thinking about the mechanical drive moving around with only two screws on one side of it. This...this was something else entirely. Wow.

I also managed to accidentally kill two hard drives by using the wrong PSU cables. That was my fault for not checking more carefully to make sure I had the right ones for the PSU. I knew better and it's a mistake I haven't repeated. I'm assuming the knucklehead that built the PC didn't know it mattered.
 

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This.
Linus Tech Tips had a video a few years ago where they tested a messy build versus a really tidy one, and the results they got amounted to basically that, unless you deliberately fill the case up completely, it doesn't make a measurable difference. I'm sure Steve of GamersNexus would have an aneurysm and start lecturing me about "But their methodology!!" or crowing about how only he is equipped to do that test properly, but yeah, as long as you're getting air in and out of the case somehow, it apparently doesn't matter in any practical way.

LOL, yeah GN would probably flip out and disagree. Even in their own videos when they go on and on about throttling, they usually only end up showing a single-digit % performance hit in very specific scenarios. The same % that they would dismiss in video card comparison reviews and such. With ribbon cables being a thing of the past, it takes a metric shitload of cables (and risers and cages and whatnot) to be a major issue. A couple fans and a little space and you're good to go. At least unless you live in the desert, have no AC, no thermal paste, run at full load all the time, have a super-hot Intel chip, etc.
 

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It's bad but it probably worked for a while since the fans have dust. Using thumb screws to hold a hard disk isn't bad, it's actually fine so long as it doesn't interfere with anything. Considering there's also thumb screws on the motherboard, that suggests that the person didn't have any screws and just used what they had on hand. Not a lot of products sold come with case screws, which really should become the norm. Bending the case to fit a GPU is fine so long as you do it in way that isn't stupid. I actually still have that case for an old computer that I have laying around. Also, I've bent Intel PGA socket pins with ease. Not because I've clamped it down wrong but because when I put the CPU in place, sometimes I've had to slide it into place without realizing I'm bending pins. I've been able to correct these mistakes by bending them back, but I'll take AMD's LGA design over Intel's PGA any day. PGA is just more error prone.

I get that these guys made mistakes and should have spent money on a new case but often the situation is do you wanna spend your limited budget to hire someone and build it correctly, but will end up with a RTX 3060 instead of a 3080, or do it yourself and make use of older parts as best as you can? Have a friend of mine that had finally upgraded from his Athlon II with 8500 GT to a Ryzen 5700G with 16GB of ram for $1k. Nearly $200 of that $1k was given to the builder who bought the parts from MicroCenter. It was built well but he ended up with a system that had a very expensive motherboard, 512 SSD, and a PSU of questionable quality. No GPU of any sort, not that he needed one. Just because you went with a builder doesn't mean that you're still getting a good PC for a good price. I priced out his build on PCPartPicker and it's basically a $650 build that he paid $1k for. So he could have went on his own, or with me for free, or paid someone the equivalent of a RTX 3060 to build it. So I can understand why some people might go at it on their own and get a better PC. The problem is either they're too proud to ask for help or too confident in their abilities. Pride is a very expensive trait to have, and also useless.
 

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20 years ago back when windowed PC's weren't really a thing,

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That Nicotine though!
That's what I thought. Brought me back to working on one of my old roommate's PC. Had to do it fast because it was stinking up my apartment.
Remember when round IDE cables showed up? So much easier to work with!
Or rounding your own.
Watch the video before commenting?!? C'mon man, this is THE INTERNET..... ;)
No I didn't, I assumed it was another amateur build where they use zip ties and elmers glue to secure things...
It made The Verge Guy look like a PC Guru.
 

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I can't say my first couple builds weren't as poorly managed, cable-wise, but it didn't look this bad because I might have hid them and there were far less of them. If this were my first build when I was like 12 putting together hand-me-down 486/pentium era parts, I can't say I wouldn't have made some of the same mistakes. I think I might have stopped short of bending a case to make the single most expensive part fit, however. If only because case metal was a far thicker gauge back then!

What I'm curious about is the no-no of mixing and matching flat and sleeved power connectors. In my builds the PSUs are of appropriate wattage and come with all the right kind of power connectors, and I haven't messed with an RTX.

 

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Steve of GamersNexus would have an aneurysm
I like Steve videos, and he's a perfectionist, which is fine. But he spent ten minutes ranting about the restricted airflow in, I think, the Corsair i220t and how it would murder the thermals, only to mumble that it actually wasn't very bad when it came to the numbers.
 

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I like Steve videos, and he's a perfectionist, which is fine. But he spent ten minutes ranting about the restricted airflow in, I think, the Corsair i220t and how it would murder the thermals, only to mumble that it actually wasn't very bad when it came to the numbers.
Steve is one of those youtubers, that I watch for a few months after discovering them, but they run out of new things to say and it's the same song and dance over and over again, so I move on. With gamers's nexus this novel period was even shorter than usual.
 

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That's what I thought. Brought me back to working on one of my old roommate's PC. Had to do it fast because it was stinking up my apartment.

Or rounding your own.

It made The Verge Guy look like a PC Guru.

Ah, so it was clickbait......I see now.
 

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I like Steve videos, and he's a perfectionist, which is fine. But he spent ten minutes ranting about the restricted airflow in, I think, the Corsair i220t and how it would murder the thermals, only to mumble that it actually wasn't very bad when it came to the numbers.

Steve is one of those youtubers, that I watch for a few months after discovering them, but they run out of new things to say and it's the same song and dance over and over again, so I move on. With gamers's nexus this novel period was even shorter than usual.

Y'all mothaf*kas need Hardware Jesus.

But seriously, he does seemingly have a tendency to drone on. There are guidelines for public speaking that suggest his style of presentation, or what he's trying for. For example, if you actually want people to remember what you're telling them, and I think Hardware Jesus does(which is genuinely admirable), you're supposed to do 3 things:

Tell people what you're going to tell them.

Tell them the thing.

Tell them what you told them.

And often he does this and it's not annoying. Sometimes, and I can't tell if it's just my attention span, but it feels like he repeats himself more than 3 times. If it's something I easily understand and/or already know, it's just unbearable. But it's not his fault I already understand something. And I think there are plenty of newbs that appreciate coming away from his videos and remembering the thing. And he does enough things that nobody else did that I'm glad his channel is as popular as it is. I mean, shopping on newegg is something I might even consider again.

Personally, though, I'm less likely to click one of his videos because I know I'll be in for 30 minutes of stuff that could have been covered in 5.
 

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Y'all mothaf*kas need Hardware Jesus.

But seriously, he does seemingly have a tendency to drone on. There are guidelines for public speaking that suggest his style of presentation, or what he's trying for. For example, if you actually want people to remember what you're telling them, and I think Hardware Jesus does(which is genuinely admirable), you're supposed to do 3 things:

Tell people what you're going to tell them.

Tell them the thing.

Tell them what you told them.

And often he does this and it's not annoying. Sometimes, and I can't tell if it's just my attention span, but it feels like he repeats himself more than 3 times. If it's something I easily understand and/or already know, it's just unbearable. But it's not his fault I already understand something. And I think there are plenty of newbs that appreciate coming away from his videos and remembering the thing. And he does enough things that nobody else did that I'm glad his channel is as popular as it is. I mean, shopping on newegg is something I might even consider again.

Personally, though, I'm less likely to click one of his videos because I know I'll be in for 30 minutes of stuff that could have been covered in 5.

The best thing about Gamers Nexus (at least IMO) is the weekly news wrap-up. The reviews are fine, but long-winded. I usually just skip straight to the conclusion since Steve covers any kind of weird anomalies there anyway. I only watch the whole chabang if it's a product I intend to buy at some point. He's clearly a smart guy, but I don't need another video shitting on a pre-build's airflow. For pure entertainment (and folks covering the stuff I usually want to know), I like Linus and his crew. Yes, they're a little goofy, but they tend to ask the questions I actually have instead of circling around a similar topic for 15 minutes.
 

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Trigger warning. :p
If that's a trigger, whatever you do, don't google "4chan battlestations." Just don't do it.
I like Linus and his crew. Yes, they're a little goofy, but they tend to ask the questions I actually have instead of circling around a similar topic for 15 minutes.
I have to tell YT do not recommend their channels. Which of course is only temporary, especially if I accidentally click on them when I'm searching for a topic I need to know answers on. Then I have to spend the next week DRC'ing again. So I try to click on their stuff in a private window if I'm just out of ideas.
 
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