Found a 3070, any reason to keep my 1080TI ?

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I finally found a run of the mill 3070 from EVGA at MSRP $671.00. I have a spare old 980 in case warranties are needed at any time on the EVGA. With the current prices, I am thinking about just trading out my 1080 TI FE so as not to lose the current value.
Please tell me this drought isn't going to last so long that the 1080 will still have value in a year?
 

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I finally found a run of the mill 3070 from EVGA at MSRP $671.00. I have a spare old 980 in case warranties are needed at any time on the EVGA. With the current prices, I am thinking about just trading out my 1080 TI FE so as not to lose the current value.
Please tell me this drought isn't going to last so long that the 1080 will still have value in a year?

To reply to the entire post, buy the 3070 and sell the 1080ti for nearly the same.
 

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Save it for a child or grand child as is my case or even a backup. My grandson got a brand new prebuilt gaming PC last Christmas with a GTX 1660 super in it. The 1080 Ti perform 183% better and the reason why they still have value. Mine (1080ti) is in my everyday PC, backup if you will, or playing Fort Night when my grandson comes over. I let him play on my gamer that has a 2080Ti longing to be upgraded. I've been an early adopter going way back and to not have a 3080ti by now feels weird. I have promised the 1080ti to him when I upgrade hopefully it happens soon but it's not looking too good out there and I suspect we'll have issuses throughout 2022 in to 2023 but the price is getting so ridiculous that I may have to lower my expectations.
 

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Just paid $600 for a MSI 1080Ti from seller here..Got lucky they are usually going for more.
I would kep it for the time being then sell it
 

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I'd sell it. Mining has lost quite a bit of its ROI lately and if ethereum switches to POS in June its going to send a lot of video cards to 2nd hand sales. I sold my 1080ti for $320 just before the 3080 launched (thinking i could get one) I fully regret selling it then, but if you can get $650 for it -- id take it.

The 1080ti is a good mining card if you wanted to dabble in that. It has a lot of compute and memory bandwidth so there is a wide variety of coins you could point it at. I use to make $7-8 a day per 1080ti, today its $1.30. last week it was $2.40 i think.
 

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Do you do gaming at 4k? Your issue is going to be lack of VRAM if you do. You're going to hit a hard wall in quite a few games where the additional compute of the 3070 doesn't matter since you're down VRAM. This is why the only acceptable replacement for the 1080ti was a 2080ti or a 3080ti if you do 4k gaming.
 

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Do you do gaming at 4k? Your issue is going to be lack of VRAM if you do. You're going to hit a hard wall in quite a few games where the additional compute of the 3070 doesn't matter since you're down VRAM. This is why the only acceptable replacement for the 1080ti was a 2080ti or a 3080ti if you do 4k gaming.
I have a 4K monitor but an old LG one limited to 60FPS at 4K so I usually try to crank up all the eye candy at 2K.
 

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Anyone think a change from a 3800X to a 5950X would make any difference?
Pretty much zero if the intent is for gaming. If you really want to upgrade i'd limit yourself to a 5900x, but even then, it's not going to do anything. At 4k the issue is the GPU.
 

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Pretty much zero if the intent is for gaming. If you really want to upgrade I'd limit yourself to a 5900x, but even then, it's not going to do anything. At 4k the issue is the GPU.
Sounds like what I expected. Just hoping to be at the top of the heap even if it is shortly to be last gen.
 

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Been running a EVGA 3070 for over a year. I want that 12 gig 3080 out in a few days. I never sell cards anymore just isn't worth it.
 

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You are so right about the refresh. I am hoping to grab a 5950X at that point hoping the prices will fall on the used H market.
 

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We're talking 1080Ti here vs 3070. Of course you're ditching that 1080Ti.

Want actual reasons?
1080Ti is out of warranty
1080Ti higher vram is useless as it's much slower than 3070.
You can get +50% performance boost for nearly the same price.
 

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We're talking 1080Ti here vs 3070. Of course you're ditching that 1080Ti.

Want actual reasons?
1080Ti is out of warranty
1080Ti higher vram is useless as it's much slower than 3070.
You can get +50% performance boost for nearly the same price.
The comment about the higher vram on the TI seems right. I don't know about 50%+ increase but even comparing the "feel" of the jump from a 1070 to a 1080 makes me believe the bulk of the comments are right. Time to ditch the 1080ti while the prices are good.
 

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We're talking 1080Ti here vs 3070. Of course you're ditching that 1080Ti.

Want actual reasons?
1080Ti is out of warranty
1080Ti higher vram is useless as it's much slower than 3070.
You can get +50% performance boost for nearly the same price.
A card being slower doesn't make the additional vram useless. Texture settings have almost zero impact on GPU performance.
 

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A card being slower doesn't make the additional vram useless. Texture settings have almost zero impact on GPU performance.
Exactly, it depends on the games the OP is playing, and he has a 4K native monitor. There are plenty of games where having the increased VRAM will result in better overall quality versus just having the additional raw compute.
 

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Exactly, it depends on the games the OP is playing, and he has a 4K native monitor. There are plenty of games where having the increased VRAM will result in better overall quality versus just having the additional raw compute.
Well to be clear I'm not saying to take a 1080 TI over a 3070 by any means. I would rather have to turn down texture settings in three or four games than to pass on the increased performance plus the additional features of the current architecture GPU.
 

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While the price is high, I would sell the 1080ti.

I have had both and while the 1080ti was a great card (still good), it's just not in the same class as the 3070.

Regardless of the 8 gb of video ram.
 

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Well not only is the 3070 a tier above the 1080 TI but also having dlss will make 4K gaming so much more accessible in games that offer it.
 

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Well not only is the 3070 a tier above the 1080 TI but also having dlss will make 4K gaming so much more accessible in games that offer it.
Problem is you won’t have the VRAM for 4K. DLSS uses same amount of VRAM at 4K.
 

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Exactly, it depends on the games the OP is playing, and he has a 4K native monitor. There are plenty of games where having the increased VRAM will result in better overall quality versus just having the additional raw compute.

Even if I hit the vram limit of 8gb, I'd rather be gaming on a 3070 than 1080Ti.
Besides, there are very few games that actually require so much vram. Allocate, yes. Demand, No. Some games like MS Flight Simulator can eat up to 14gb of vram. That's too much for everything except Radeon 6800/6900 and 3090. But that's actually how much it allocates, you don't need that much vram.
It's extremely silly that people are recommending 1080Ti over 3070 and actually try to create an argument over it. You won't be playing new games on 4k on 1080Ti because the card is too slow anyway.
 

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Problem is you won’t have the VRAM for 4K. DLSS uses same amount of VRAM at 4K.

Just enable DSR and GPU Scaling and run games in 0.80x resolution or so. Thats 2880x1620 or something like that. Much smaller hit on VRAM and still looks fantastic on a 4k screen. But for 4K it depends on a game how hard they are on vram. Not all games use absolutely bonkers almost uncompressed textures in high resolutions. And if it does then it is better to turn it down a notch anyway because the only way you can tell the difference is if you run your face to the wall (in game that is) and compare the quality side by side. 😅

That said OP, if you are not in desperate need of selling then what about doing a secondary PC? Build a small ITX hometheater PC for your living room to get "gaming on couch" console experience. This is what I was about to do before shit hit the fan and GPU prices skyrocketed. Now my portable HTPC is my only PC while my desktop rig is in parts. 🤦‍♂️
 
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I tend to say keep it as a backup. I'm kind of a hoarder tho and never sell anything. I still have every GPU and CPU I've ever owned but I have used some of them more than a few times over the years when a spare is needed so....
Same... all the way back to my Voodoo 3 3000 AGP and AMD Athlon XP's.... lol. Sadly, don't have my Pentium III, II or I components anymore and anything really prior to 1998. I think I still have the CPUs and some EDO memory though; but the mainboards are long gone and I'm really pissed that the video cards are long gone now too :( Some of those would have been worth some coin now.
 

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Sell the 1080ti while the resale value is still high. I agree with the other comment about upcoming mining crash, I don't think it will solve all the supply problems obviously. But we will see a flood of cards hit the used market when the Eth mining craters.
 

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But we will see a flood of cards hit the used market when the Eth mining craters.

The mining community is too big for it to happen. Humans are expert problem solvers ;-)
Also, LHR cards did nothing to make availability better.
 

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Sell the 1080ti. No warranty left on it now. Prices will drop. I am already seeing my local microcenter have a lot of nvidia cards in stock regularly. The video card shortage is finally getting better, prices will start dropping. Only the 3080’s and 3090’s have a really shortage in my area.
 

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The mining community is too big for it to happen. Humans are expert problem solvers ;-)
Also, LHR cards did nothing to make availability better.
Much of that is because miners found ways to improve LHR performance. When profits were much higher like a month ago, many people were scooping up whatever cards they could, LHR or not.
 

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I finally found a run of the mill 3070 from EVGA at MSRP $671.00. I have a spare old 980 in case warranties are needed at any time on the EVGA. With the current prices, I am thinking about just trading out my 1080 TI FE so as not to lose the current value.
Please tell me this drought isn't going to last so long that the 1080 will still have value in a year?
I would not sell off an extra card if you have it because you may need it. Sure you can make some money off it right now but if a friend had a system die or some other unforeseen situation happens your left spending a lot of money for a new card. As an Avid gamer I hold onto old cards even before this to always have backups as needed.
 

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I would not sell off an extra card if you have it because you may need it. Sure you can make some money off it right now but if a friend had a system die or some other unforeseen situation happens your left spending a lot of money for a new card. As an Avid gamer I hold onto old cards even before this to always have backups as needed.

I think the exact opposite. Sell it now while the price is high. A bird in hand is worth two in the bush.
 

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I think the exact opposite. Sell it now while the price is high. A bird in hand is worth two in the bush.

You don't have warranty where you live? I'd move.
If your card breaks down within these 3 years and you can't live with an integrated GPU for a few weeks, you might want to rethink your life choices.
Unless of course you need it for work, in which case, why have a 4 years old card?
 

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You don't have warranty where you live? I'd move.
If your card breaks down within these 3 years and you can't live with an integrated GPU for a few weeks, you might want to rethink your life choices.
Unless of course you need it for work, in which case, why have a 4 years old card?
My question is how often do people really have bad cards? Over 30 years of buying GPUs and I've never had an issue. I used to hold onto hardware "just in case", but stopped when I realised that hardware would have brought me cash before and now it's garbage. Other than retro builds, I see zero reason to hold onto a card.
 

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My question is how often do people really have bad cards? Over 30 years of buying GPUs and I've never had an issue. I used to hold onto hardware "just in case", but stopped when I realised that hardware would have brought me cash before and now it's garbage. Other than retro builds, I see zero reason to hold onto a card.

It's been a while. The last card that died on me was Asus 670 DirectCU II which I managed to RMA successfully. But I also have a dead GTX 570 (I think).
Haven't really had any issues with several 1060/1080Ti, 2080Ti and currently 3080, and I mine(d) with them 20h/day.
The cards surely failed more often when I was gaming 15h/day compared to mining 20h/day :D
 
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