42" OLED MASTER THREAD

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It's crazy that the C1 48" is going for $896 new in America right now. With how much brighter QD-OLED is and all the media attention I don't think the 42" will be over $1000 for long. Let's hope $700 this time next year.
 

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It's crazy that the C1 48" is going for $896 new in America right now. With how much brighter QD-OLED is and all the media attention I don't think the 42" will be over $1000 for long. Let's hope $700 this time next year.


Because it's a better device, with a high-quality semi-gloss coating; it also doesn't force you to go with curved ultra-wide (for a device that doesn't have the same vA viewing angle problem, it makes zero sense!)
 

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Curved isn't only about viewing angles :)


Immersion curved OLED TVs died 6 years ago, because they serve no purpose.

This thing is nearly as wide as a 40" TV, while forcing you to do that broken 21:9 aspect in everything you do - curved!
 
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Immersion curved OLED TVs died 6 years ago, because they serve no purpose.

This thing is nearly as wide as a 40" TV, while forcing you to do that broken 21:9 aspect in everything you do - curved!
Clearly it has not died in the PC world. I've been on and off 21:9 34" monitors for a while.
 

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Clearly it has not died in the PC world. I've been on and off 21:9 34" monitors for a while.


And how many of those were introduced to combat VA gamma shift?

I mean really ,you can count the number of curved IPS panels on one hand, while the VA show obvious value in this.
 

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And how many of those were introduced to combat VA gamma shift?

I mean really ,you can count the number of curved IPS panels on one hand, while the VA show are obvious value in this.
No idea, I've been using IPS models the whole time :) the curve actually helps being able to see the outside of the monitor easier.
 

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Immersion curved OLED TVs died 6 years ago, because they serve no purpose.

This thing is nearly as wide as a 40" TV, while forcing you to do that broken 21:9 aspect in everything you do - curved!

Curved televisions died 6 years ago because people sit 4-10+ feet away from their televisions and curves are worthless in that setup.

Having your face 20-30" away from your 34"+ screen is an entirely different scenario.
 

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Curved televisions died 6 years ago because people sit 4-10+ feet away from their televisions and curves are worthless in that setup.

Having your face 20-30" away from your 34"+ screen is an entirely different scenario.
Agreed. In a desktop situation, I actually wish my LG CX 48" was a little bit curved. It would make it feel less large and would make it a bit easier to use the edges of the display. Curved large screens could be awesome for desktop use but the TV industry just went with something bonkers stupid by making curved TVs for the living room.

In the same way ultrawide TVs never became a thing despite some prototypes shown off even though many movies are not in 16:9 aspect ratios and are instead shown with black bars on top/bottom. They would make sense as film enthusiast models.
 

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I love the curve on my 49" ultrawide monitor for gaming and desktop use, one of my very best PC decisions.
The large flat 16:9 TV gets movies.
We wouldnt mind a curved TV but it would have to be truly massive!
 

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48C2 is already down to $1190 on the LG partner store, 42C2 is sitting at $1147 but still not available to actually order.
 

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Vincent at Value Electronics mentioned on a recent stream with Stop the Fomo on youtube that he wasn't expecting to see the 42" C2 Oled until July. He typically is one of the first to receive new stock so I think we will be waiting for these 41" TVs for a few more months. Anyone remember when the 48" came out last year? i remember it was several months after the larger TVs were available.
 

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Vincent at Value Electronics mentioned on a recent stream with Stop the Fomo on youtube that he wasn't expecting to see the 42" C2 Oled until July. He typically is one of the first to receive new stock so I think we will be waiting for these 41" TVs for a few more months. Anyone remember when the 48" came out last year? i remember it was several months after the larger TVs were available.
He's really not the first to receive stock. I preordered the 48" CX from VE and Bestbuy had them before him by almost a month so cancelled the VE order and got it from Bestbuy the same week.

Yes the 48" lagged behind the 55+ by quite a bit. It was late Q2 almost Q3 from what I remember. BB was the first retailer to have the 48" in stock and I expect the same of the 42. Things might have changed in terms of his dealer relations with manufacturers so dunno about now but I'd still buy from BB or LG direct.

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Vincent at Value Electronics mentioned on a recent stream with Stop the Fomo on youtube that he wasn't expecting to see the 42" C2 Oled until July. He typically is one of the first to receive new stock so I think we will be waiting for these 41" TVs for a few more months. Anyone remember when the 48" came out last year? i remember it was several months after the larger TVs were available.
I received the CX 48" at the end of June here in Finland, bought at release so June/July seems about right.
 

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I hope to buy this at release and will check the Service menu to see if I won the panel lottery, if not, I will return.
 

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I’m confused what model you’re all talking about above that’s coming in June/July?
 

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Yeah even here in Finland it seems to be already in stock. 1399 euros.


Well, here n the US, it has yet to appear on shelves

This is the only Google search result that didn't redirect me to the "already shipping here" 48":

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1696683-REG/lg_oled42c2pua_c2_42_oled_4k.html?ap=y&smp=y&lsft=BI:514&gclid=CjwKCAjw9qiTBhBbEiwAp-GE0Xi9sKRvrm2Z1AB3SJc_5_nCVZdGIVAzrenYOcwafgobzRlGvOROOxoCKxAQAvD_BwE

The Rtings review is now live! But doesn't seem to be the 42-inch model!

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c2-oled

While you can get these things early in some countries, most of the world is going to have to wait a couple months for wide availability
 
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Well, here n the US, it has yet to appear on shelves

This is the only Google search result that didn't redirect me to the "already shipping here" 48":

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1696683-REG/lg_oled42c2pua_c2_42_oled_4k.html?ap=y&smp=y&lsft=BI:514&gclid=CjwKCAjw9qiTBhBbEiwAp-GE0Xi9sKRvrm2Z1AB3SJc_5_nCVZdGIVAzrenYOcwafgobzRlGvOROOxoCKxAQAvD_BwE

The Rtings review is now live! But doesn't seem to be the 42-inch model!

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c2-oled

While you can get these things early in some countries, most of the world is going to have to wait a couple months for wide availability
Thanks for the notice about the Rtings review. It looks pretty good! I didn't see anything mentioned about text quality when used on a PC. They did have the blurb under resolution support that the chroma is correct 4:4:4.

My 2 questions for those that might know:

1. Will the PC text display be similar to earlier LG OLED TVs? I tried one briefly about a 18 months ago and the text quality was very poor for me (my usage would be half work with text and half gaming/general PC stuff).
2. In the supported resolution section of the review 4K @ 60Hz 4:4:4 is called out but the 4K @ 120Hz does mention the chroma. Is this normal (i.e. will 120Hz have the 4:4:4 chroma)? I'm just getting back into looking for a display so still coming up to speed.

Thanks!
 

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The Rtings review is now live! But doesn't seem to be the 42-inch model!

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c2-oled

While you can get these things early in some countries, most of the world is going to have to wait a couple months for wide availability

It's available throughout the world, shipping just takes longer to NA but it doesn't take an additional 3 months like you're suggesting.

Here's a review comparing the 42" and the 48" C2s.



Note:

Our review sample is the OLED42C2 which we bought ourselves.
 

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TFTCentral's review of the LG C2 42" is now readable for everyone: https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg-oled-42c2

EDIT: Apart from the lack of 120 Hz BFI, everything is very similar here to the LG CX 48" I've used as a desktop display for almost two years. ASBL still needs to be disabled or this will be annoying for desktop use and not being able to do that from anything but the service menu still sucks.

The HDR peak brightness is a bit lower on the 42" model compared to TFTCentral's CX 48" review, 717 vs 772 for 1-10% windows and 396 vs 430 for 25% window. Whether you can actually see this difference I don't know but it's there. I wonder if the ASUS model of this will reach CX levels or higher if it has a heatsink on it?

The things that give me pause are the lack of Displayport and Picture By Picture features. These are of course known things, just relevant to my uses.

The lack of DP is an issue for me because I also use my CX for work. MacOS currently does not support HDMI 2.1 features with anything. DP to HDMI 2.1 adapters don't work like they do on Windows. It's just annoying to go back to the 60 Hz refresh rate for work use and it does not help that my 2019 Intel MBP starts running its fans loud just by connecting the display, an issue still unsolved with the latest MacOS version.

From what I have seen the Multiview option is just complete garbage, showing two 16:9 views at the center scaled down to unusable sizes and put next to each other rather than splitting the screen in half or quads. Useless!

I might wait for the ASUS version even though I'm not overly fond of the idea of adding anti-glare coating on it. While I can see reflections on my CX 48", they haven't been an issue in my use. I don't have any bright light sources behind my sitting position. ASUS' design language is also complete "gamer" bollocks.
 
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Yeah sucks that since the CX we've basically had no progress on the OLED front for monitor use. I dunno what LG's plans are for next year but I hope it's not another side grade refresh.

I know Samsung has a 49" QD-OLED coming next year so probably 2024 until we see a 42" version.

I'm going to wait until the 42 drops to $900 or less like it inevitably will before considering it to replace my 48 while also keeping an eye on the PG42UQ to see if it offers any tangible benefits over the C2 other than DP input. 900nits on a 1-3% window sounds great but how realistic is that for real world content (pretty rare occurrence).

There are so many dumping 48's in anticipation of the 42 that the used market is oversaturated and really causing the value to tank. I know someone selling their 48" C1 for $600 with a $300 Bestbuy warranty that covers burn in and it's gone unsold for a month now.
 

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Yeah sucks that since the CX we've basically had no progress on the OLED front for monitor use. I dunno what LG's plans are for next year but I hope it's not another side grade refresh.
Looking at HDTVTest's G2 review, if LG keeps using the same tech I don't expect we will see much more than heatsinks making their way into more models for increased peak brightness. Seems most of the updates this year are catering towards movie watchers and smart TV users. It might be LG's tech is starting to hit walls for peak brightness.

The only light in the LG tunnel for the desktop monitor use is that they are making a 48GB900 model which seems to be basically the 48" C2 with a Displayport input, anti-glare coating and "g4m3r" design. Why they didn't just make that with the 42" panel I do not understand, that would have been a great move. But I expect that they will do that next year. I wonder if this model is just maybe reusing C1/CX 48" panels or something to get rid of leftover stock.

For the 42" model the only other option to the LG C2 this year seems to be the ASUS PG42UQ. Reading this blurb from ASUS I noticed that there is a * symbol when they talk about the 900 nits peak brightness. At the end of the article it says that means "*3% of the screen with HDR on." For e.g. 10% window the brightness will probably be somewhere above the 717 nits of the 42" C2 but I am pleasantly surprised if it manages above 800 nits in that situation.

Looking at the ASUS specs listed in that article I wonder if they have just crammed two different input circuits into it when it has 1x DP, 2x HDMI 2.0 and then 2x HDMI 2.1. Like why have the HDMI 2.0 at all unless it's just some standard piece of hardware they can reuse?

To be fair, I'm happy with the HDR capabilities of my LG C9 65" and CX 48". Both look just great in HDR gaming or movies. The only things I am left wanting is smaller size and Displayport support.
 

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Looking at HDTVTest's G2 review, if LG keeps using the same tech I don't expect we will see much more than heatsinks making their way into more models for increased peak brightness. Seems most of the updates this year are catering towards movie watchers and smart TV users. It might be LG's tech is starting to hit walls for peak brightness.

The only light in the LG tunnel for the desktop monitor use is that they are making a 48GB900 model which seems to be basically the 48" C2 with a Displayport input, anti-glare coating and "g4m3r" design. Why they didn't just make that with the 42" panel I do not understand, that would have been a great move. But I expect that they will do that next year. I wonder if this model is just maybe reusing C1/CX 48" panels or something to get rid of leftover stock.

For the 42" model the only other option to the LG C2 this year seems to be the ASUS PG42UQ. Reading this blurb from ASUS I noticed that there is a * symbol when they talk about the 900 nits peak brightness. At the end of the article it says that means "*3% of the screen with HDR on." For e.g. 10% window the brightness will probably be somewhere above the 717 nits of the 42" C2 but I am pleasantly surprised if it manages above 800 nits in that situation.

Looking at the ASUS specs listed in that article I wonder if they have just crammed two different input circuits into it when it has 1x DP, 2x HDMI 2.0 and then 2x HDMI 2.1. Like why have the HDMI 2.0 at all unless it's just some standard piece of hardware they can reuse?

To be fair, I'm happy with the HDR capabilities of my LG C9 65" and CX 48". Both look just great in HDR gaming or movies. The only things I am left wanting is smaller size and Displayport support.
That IO setup of the PG42UQ I think is shared from the XG48UQ except they removed 1 of the 2 DP ports and updated the chipset to support 48Gbps for the HDMI 2.1 ports. Pretty sure it's just penny pinching in either hardware cost or engineering time that's stopped them and many others like Samsung (until this year) from providing all ports as HDMI 2.1.

The PG42UQ is looking more attractive after seeing HDTV tests G2 review. The heatsink made temporary IR dissipate way faster than even a QD-OLED. We just have to pray that Asus does the panel right unlike Gigabyte with the FO48U which is a firmware/software/calibration mess.

The problem is if Asus is pricing VA LCD 43" monitors @ $1300, I can't imagine the PG42UQ come in any less than $1999 which will make no sense at all given it's ETA of Q3 where toward the tail end a C2 could drop to $1000 or less.

May 9th is Asus next "virtual launch event" where they announce products and availability so hoping to hear something about it then.

EDIT: Asus got back to me and said the 42" is still in "engineering" (whatever that means). Q3/Q4 is probably accurate but hope I'm wrong.
 
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For the 42" model the only other option to the LG C2 this year seems to be the ASUS PG42UQ. Reading this blurb from ASUS I noticed that there is a * symbol when they talk about the 900 nits peak brightness. At the end of the article it says that means "*3% of the screen with HDR on." For e.g. 10% window the brightness will probably be somewhere above the 717 nits of the 42" C2 but I am pleasantly surprised if it manages above 800 nits in that situation.

what about sony a90k?
https://electronics.sony.com/tv-video/televisions/all-tvs/p/xr42a90k
 

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The PG42UQ is looking more attractive after seeing HDTV tests G2 review. The heatsink made temporary IR dissipate way faster than even a QD-OLED. We just have to pray that Asus does the panel right unlike Gigabyte with the FO48U which is a firmware/software/calibration mess.

The problem is if Asus is pricing VA LCD 43" monitors @ $1300, I can't imagine the PG42UQ come in any less than $1999 which will make no sense at all given it's ETA of Q3 where toward the tail end a C2 could drop to $1000 or less.

May 9th is Asus next "virtual launch event" where they announce products and availability so hoping to hear something about it then.

EDIT: Asus got back to me and said the 42" is still in "engineering" (whatever that means). Q3/Q4 is probably accurate but hope I'm wrong.
Very good points. While I don't mind paying more to get exactly what I want, if the price difference between them ends up being significant enough it doesn't make sense when at Q3/Q4 we are just half a year away from next year's models where LG themselves might bring in more desktop centric features to their range as well as a heatsink. Might put the ASUS in the same position as the 55" Dell OLED was where it's just not a good purchase.

I would not care too much about Displayport if MacOS supported HDMI 2.1 in any capacity, whether through adapters or whatnot but it seems that there is a technical issue in the OS itself that prevents above HDMI 2.0 speeds no matter what so until Apple themselves offer a HDMI 2.1 port on their laptops I don't see that as getting fixed.
 
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