When will Video Card prices come down lower?

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Because they have like 1.5 million people waiting for cards so they decided to close it probably more than that
 

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Just a little morning reminiscing over the good old days :(

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That post made me go look back through my video card purchase history, and found a few oldies
 

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Cards are still dropping at regular prices, but you need to be watching via discords, etc. I guess it depends how much effort you are willing to put into it, but also what will you compromise for them. For instance...there are combo deals available on asus right now.

https://shop.asus.com/us/store-only-products/ec-only-product/ec-only-category.html

Also ( i have not had any luck) there is Newegg shuffles...one starting again here in a few.

https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle?Tpk=shuffle

EVGA is also having a que system starting today

https://www.evga.com/support/queue3/

Just some options if you are still looking.
 
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Cards are still dropping at regular prices, but you need to be watching via discords, etc. I guess it depends how much effort you are willing to put into it, but also what will you compromise for them. For instance...there are combo deals available on asus right now.

https://shop.asus.com/us/store-only-products/ec-only-product/ec-only-category.html

Also ( i have not had any luck) there is Newegg shuffles...one starting again here in a few.

https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle?Tpk=shuffle

EVGA is also having a que system starting today

https://www.evga.com/support/queue3/

Just some options if you are still looking.


Coincidence that only Asus in stock are the $800+ options ? LOL yeah.. F this new normal. AS others mentioned... Go with Ryzen 5600g and sit this round out.. or give up gaming altogether
 

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Coincidence that only Asus in stock are the $800+ options ? LOL yeah.. F this new normal. AS others mentioned... Go with Ryzen 5600g and sit this round out.. or give up gaming altogether
I hear ya! I got lucky and got the cards i wanted last year but it was still a challenge. I am ready for the new tech to drop so all the scalpers are stuck with all that stock and/or have to sell for a loss.
 

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To really low level, my guest would be not before I can buy a PS5 on amazon, costco or bestbuy.com

Are the new console challenging or already did beat the Wii for how long one cannot simply buy one ?
 

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Also, Newegg can fuck.right off. Check out their return and rma issues. Completely beyond shady. Saying unopened gear has thermal paste on it etc. Not the company that they used to be.
 

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Wow that’s unfortunate. I returned a MSI z690 board because I found a better deal locally on a different board. Even though the board from Newegg was a “replacement only “ returnable the rep in chat gave me a gift card for the amount instead. I just asked what could be done instead of a replacement. Took less than 10 minutes.
 

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Also, Newegg can fuck.right off. Check out their return and rma issues. Completely beyond shady. Saying unopened gear has thermal paste on it etc. Not the company that they used to be.
+1 and another +1.

Once upon a time, they were a great company. I got all my tech (except maybe phones and tablets) from NE. I had confidence that they were honest and the prices were good. That was so 2017.

Now, I just dunno. I stay away from all their resellers, except antononline. First from China and that type, may as well be Covid infested. If I can get something from the Big A, I do that. Or the "little" B&H, even better. It's a shame, but the new owners are just a bunch of bottom-feeders. Their shuffles are just a ripoff.
 

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Also, Newegg can fuck.right off. Check out their return and rma issues. Completely beyond shady. Saying unopened gear has thermal paste on it etc. Not the company that they used to be.
I had a nephew buy a motherboard from Newegg a couple of years back, the board was DOA and so we RMAed the board waiting for a replacement. With no notice after 2 weeks get got the package and it was the SAME board, same serial number and the box was opened and so on. No note or anything in the box. When we contacted Newegg, after waiting a few days for a reply, we were told the RAM was refused because the SLI bridge cable that came with the board was not in the box. So I asked why not pull it from the box of the new board they could have sent as a replacement, or contact us to have us send the cable? No response. I told them we had the cable would put it in the box and send it back, they told us that because we had sent it back without the cable originally the warranty from then was void.

At this point we went to Asus and asked for help, and they told us they could not help until we had the board for over 30 days, that until then we needed to deal with Newegg. (Why I do not buy Asus) We now went to American Express with ALL the emails and challenges the charge. Newegg finally relented and gave us a refund as we had already bought a new motherboard from Amazon. Never spent a time since with Newegg.
 

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Wait for the next crypto crash, it'll be raining cheap cards on ebay and retailers won't have a choice to sell at MSRP or less. Let's hope it happens in 2022.

Newegg bundles are ridiculous, Canada Computers is a bit better only forcing a motherboard or power supply purchase without inflating prices. I've seen a few 3080 show up but as much as I'd like to get it, I don't want to encourage these tactics.
 

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At this rate, maybe PC gaming will die after all. If I were chomping at the bit to pkay the latest games, I'd just buy a console
 

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At this rate, maybe PC gaming will die after all. If I were chomping at the bit to pkay the latest games, I'd just buy a console

Not sure what is meant by rate here (it there any variable trending down about PC gaming ?):
https://www.pcgamer.com/steam-smash...nt-usersnearly-3-million-more-than-last-year/
Peaks reached each Jan:
Jan 2019: 17.6m
Jan 2020: 18.3m
Jan 2021: 25.4m
Jan 2022: 28.2m

At this rate, it will continue to become more and more popular around the world, no ?.

Top 10 played games:
Here are the 10 most played games for January 9:

  • Counter Strike: Global Offensive
  • Dota 2
  • PUBG: Battlegrounds
  • Apex Legends
  • Grand Theft Auto 5
  • Naraka: Bladepoint
  • Rust
  • Team Fortress 2
  • Wallpaper Engine
  • MIR4
Are played on PC instead of on a console for not soon to change reason I feel (and by players that do not care to play on an old 1060 or a gaming laptop).

For recent AAA games maybe, it will end up more and more being afterthought port from console and not the main target, but that is still up in the air, we just got Cyberpunk and Flight Sim after all.
 

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Wonder what the figures would look like though in 3 or 5 years time if most people can't afford to replace hardware that ages out or are stuck w GPUs and CPUs that can't power the latest game at anything but mid to low settings. Switching to console would be the easiest way to keep gaming mainstream/non-indie titles in that scenario.
 

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Wonder what the figures would look like though in 3 or 5 years time if most people can't afford to replace hardware that ages out or are stuck w GPUs and CPUs that can't power the latest game at anything but mid to low settings. Switching to console would be the easiest way to keep gaming mainstream/non-indie titles in that scenario.

I think it depend how popular custom PC gaming are versus prebuild one (laptop or desktop) because on the dell-hp desktop side, if you are ready to pay a bigger but not that ridiculous amount historically, it does not seem hard to have a good GPU at all for a good amount of time.

if the steam stats are somewhat real, at the planet level, 1080p, old GPU and simple to run games seem to always been the main things going on the PC side, where mouse-keyboard-twitch speed matter a bit.

The PC gaming because you have nicer graphic than on console do exist, but must be small and have to compete with the giant convenience on the console side, it is possible to almost reproduce it all of it on PC and steam made it easier to game than on console in some ways back in the day, but it require a first step.
 
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When supply > demand, so if they ramp up the production 2023-24?
How? New fabs take years and $$$ so it's not really an answer to current demand. Nvidia certainly can do whatever to secure more allocation, and RDNA2 is the lowest man on the totem pole for silicon in AMD's stack.

I think the biggest relief we could see right now is for ETH to finally switch to POS (they've been saying this for years, I'll believe it when I see it), and for crypto in general to take a major hit.
 

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I think it depend how popular custom PC gaming are versus prebuild one (laptop or desktop) because on the dell-hp desktop side, if you are ready to pay a bigger but not that ridiculous amount historically, it does not seem hard to have a good GPU at all for a good amount of time.

if the steam stats are somewhat real, at the planet level, 1080p, old GPU and simple to run games seem to always been the main things going on the PC side, where mouse-keyboard-twitch speed matter a bit.

The PC gaming because you have nicer graphic than on console do exist, but must be small and have to compete with the giant convenience on the console side, it is possible to almost reproduce it all of it on PC and steam made it easier to game than on console in some ways back in the day, but it require a first step.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply
 

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Not sure what is meant by rate here (it there any variable trending down about PC gaming ?):
https://www.pcgamer.com/steam-smash...nt-usersnearly-3-million-more-than-last-year/
Peaks reached each Jan:
Jan 2019: 17.6m
Jan 2020: 18.3m
Jan 2021: 25.4m
Jan 2022: 28.2m

At this rate, it will continue to become more and more popular around the world, no ?.

Top 10 played games:
Here are the 10 most played games for January 9:

  • Counter Strike: Global Offensive
  • Dota 2
  • PUBG: Battlegrounds
  • Apex Legends
  • Grand Theft Auto 5
  • Naraka: Bladepoint
  • Rust
  • Team Fortress 2
  • Wallpaper Engine
  • MIR4
Are played on PC instead of on a console for not soon to change reason I feel (and by players that do not care to play on an old 1060 or a gaming laptop).

For recent AAA games maybe, it will end up more and more being afterthought port from console and not the main target, but that is still up in the air, we just got Cyberpunk and Flight Sim after all.

interesting stats

aren't half of those top 10 "free to play"?
 

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Gpu prices will come down when mining is not profitable anymore. That's the main gpu shortage. Miners are grabbing up a t gpu they can get their hands on. Willing to pay whatever price is asked. The chip shortage is there but the gamers/work station computers will suffer when cards are going into mining. Please do not think I'm bashing mining. Think how many cards are in Miners hands instead of gamers? There are a good bit of cards that fold or run bionic as well but not the amount the Miners have. So when will gpu prices go down? Who knows but rest assured it will be when mining crashes.
 

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Gpu prices will come down when mining is not profitable anymore. That's the main gpu shortage. Miners are grabbing up a t gpu they can get their hands on. Willing to pay whatever price is asked. The chip shortage is there but the gamers/work station computers will suffer when cards are going into mining. Please do not think I'm bashing mining. Think how many cards are in Miners hands instead of gamers? There are a good bit of cards that fold or run bionic as well but not the amount the Miners have. So when will gpu prices go down? Who knows but rest assured it will be when mining crashes.
Soon the mining cavalry will quote this and tell you how wrong you are. Although I and many other gamers agree this is a MAJOR part of the problem. I have no issue with mining, I just hope they figure out a way to do it with different hardware. I know why GPU’s are used currently, but there has to be an affordable alternative some day for miners that doesn’t take away cards from prospective gamers.
 

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You can't even join the wait list anymore.

I feel fortunate that I signed up in 2019 for a bunch of cards and ended up with mine early last year. Wasn't even going to buy it (passed on the first one to come up), but I justified it by saying that I could always sell it off without any trouble. Installed it and it just sat there until few months ago, at which time I got back into my flight sim and was VERY glad I had it.
 

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Soon the mining cavalry will quote this and tell you how wrong you are. Although I and many other gamers agree this is a MAJOR part of the problem. I have no issue with mining, I just hope they figure out a way to do it with different hardware. I know why GPU’s are used currently, but there has to be an affordable alternative some day for miners that doesn’t take away cards from prospective gamers.
Anyone that has any commen sense knows the miners are the reason behind the prices. Like I mentioned I have nothing against mining but one person with 10+ gous leaves 9 gamers without a card.
 

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Anyone that has any commen sense knows the miners are the reason behind the prices. Like I mentioned I have nothing against mining but one person with 10+ gous leaves 9 gamers without a card.

While not funny to the gaming crowd... 10 GPU's are small time.. How many "regular joe's" out there have 20+, 30+ GPU's mining, while leaching off free electric in mommy's basement.. ..etc..etc..
 

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While not funny to the gaming crowd... 10 GPU's are small time.. How many "regular joe's" out there have 20+, 30+ GPU's mining, while leaching off free electric in mommy's basement.. ..etc..etc..
Yes very true but I said 10 just as a point.

Like I have said I'm not flaming mining. Just stating facts.
 

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Thanks for the head's up on that. How do we get notified when a new product is going to show up in the queue?
Good question....not sure. I go there often as I am following a discord that drops all this insight to GPU availability and pretty much look at all the EVGA 30 series as well as B stock to see whats out there. I have a few friends that are still looking for GPUs sub $1k so i just stayed in the discord after I got mine.
 

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Anyone that has any commen sense knows the miners are the reason behind the prices. Like I mentioned I have nothing against mining but one person with 10+ gous leaves 9 gamers without a card.
I used to think bitcoin was cool and it was as great way to get used GPUs. I am over that now with mining farms buying all the GPUs. I am so tired of waiting for a new reasonably priced GPU to drop. I plan on mining on my home PC to supplement my house heater, but I am afraid to burn up my GTX1080.

It's not about me, I am happy with my 1080, but when I upgrade my wife and kids all get upgrades. My wife's 1060 3gb isn't keeping up with her game. Not to mention my son's 1050 2gb and my daughter's HD6870.
 
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I used to think bitcoin was cool and it was as great way to get used GPUs. I am over that now with mining farms buying all the GPUs. I am so tired of waiting for a new reasonably priced GPU to drop. I plan on mining on my home PC to supplement my house heater, but I am afraid to burn up my GTX1080.

It's not about me, I am happy with my 1080, but when I upgrade my wife and kids all get upgrades. My wife's 1060 3gb isn't keeping up with her game. Not to mention my son's 1050 2gb and my daughter's HD6870.
My daughter has my hand me down 1080 in her PC. It does what she needs it.to do. She doesn't game intense games. My wife doesn't need anything to Facebook scroll. Lol. So she has no use for a 1060 3gb that's in hers. For my son? He is 23. So he is o. His own. He just picked up a laptop with a 3070 in it. Lol. I personally have a 2080ti KingPin in my rig. None of those are mined on. I do ha e 2 rigs with 5 gpu's that fold. So maybe I could be called part of the problem but I payed for my cards not got them from scalpers.
 

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just wanted to join in and say GPU prices will stay high is my guess

an yes i complained months ago on twitter about it on twitter < Kyle YES our good friend and HIOST here on [H] told me MSRP is a lie . his recent blog goes into some details
BUT IN OCTOBER 2021 i was lucky enough to finally get my name picked in the EVGA line of folks waiting on a 3060 just for the chance to purchase one 3060 XC gaming 12 gig card , was in line since FEB 2021 ..and yes got it at MSRP not nvidia MSRP.... but EVGA MSRP of $429

i do agree parts are probably holding back AIB's from making more cards at a low cost .. demand is high for gamers to find a card as well as yes mining is taking its toll on the higher end cards
does NVIDIA CARE ABOUT YOU>? ..NO

DOES AMD CARE ABOUT you >? .. NO
they take a risk and put out tons of cash to make and develop new tech .. and covid is kinda hitting them hard ..with production and costs, plus the global shipping issues add in high demand for those that skipped the past gen cards and now want a new one ,, the miners acted on buying up all they could find to make GPU's a hot commodity that can make them so called coin cash

the scalpers saw an opportunity to cash in on it .. both NVIDA and AMD..................... if ya ask me are loving that

the AIB card makers that they put out is usually ... a card with better cooling and chips .. those chips are in high demand so they get the price they need to make a profit ..and those are souring

hence higher price for those guys

what we need now is INTEL to come up with a better option for the high end as well as mid range cards ..will it happen>? and we get back to low prices for mid range GPU's ..i do not think so .. i think the market now has spoken and we will see if anything a higher price for a video card ..the days of a $200 decent gpu are over

and yes i about spit out my coffee this morning when i saw the price for the new RTX 3080ti cards ..over 1500 bucks for a GPU >?? is the new MSRP
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/a...force-rtx-3080-12gb-starting-at-1519-eur.html

i mean holy crap that's more then i budgeted for my whole PC build 4 yrs ago ,,just for a vid card >?

and we still do not see the prices of the refurb 2060 >??? sorry but yes yes NVDIA is cashing in on the shortages

on the AMD SIDE over 600 for a 6600 XT a card meant for 1080 P ,,then they cripple the 6500 series with less ram ..and yep costs more then the 5700 XT that performed better with 8 gig of ram

sp yea GPU prices will not come down .... only go up............ and some time MSRP is NOT A LIE ..its just how shit works ..bend over folks ..if ya want new tech and all the crap they wanna add your never gonna need for a few more years to play your games ..get ready to pay more thanks to mining for coin
 
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