- Mar 22, 2008
I tried it but I didn't see much of a difference.
now that's freaking coolLumen is really cool.
I set Echo's face material to be emissive as hell, which subsequently turned her face into a fireball... which will actually cast light into the scene.
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And lighting a room with just emissive textures - there's no lights placed in the scene.
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I think the nanite stuff is cool but, like, isn't it just more mainstream tessellation or is there actual tech behind it outside of "hardware is good enough to do crazy tessellation now"?
Still looks good don't get me wrong but it still just seems like they're using tessellation more than other engines/developers...like you still have to create all these assets by hand, it's not some magical thing. Like they talk about in one video all the detail in the giants model, how even up close it looks super detailed and rich in polygons. However, someone still made that by hand so it's not really different then having something that high-end modeled in UE4, or Unity, or any other engine that supports tessellation, right? Like, unless you create something this detailed UE5 isn't going to somehow MAKE it that detailed.
Anyways getting hung up on the technicalities I suppose, my bad, but yeah great looking demo regardless. The lighting is definitely great! Playing Days Gone now and it uses screen space global illumination which looks really good too. Not ray-tracing good, mind you, but definitely enjoying a lot of the more subtle lighting effects and WAY better shadows because of it. So I'm definitely glad to see UE5, which you know everyone will be using, finally get this tech on a basic software level.
Starting to get over all this pre-baked lighting and shitty SSAO still being used...I really am thankful, inevitable or not, that Nvidia decided to push the ray-tracing game up SEVERAL notches quick as hell. I've always enjoyed ray-tracing for years and years. Always played the different demos and stuff I could find online back even in the DirectX 9 days. So to see the games that use it now and how good they look (like Control or Cyberpunk) has me really over a lot of these more tradition rasterization techniques. Even then, just give me some sort of global illumination, please! It just looks that much more real even if it's still faked.
This actually annoys me. The ease of doing things in unreal will make it more likely that more games will use it. I have not really likely the quality of games made in unreal and the unreal look is often easy to spot. But it's popular. Eg. Final fantasy remake in another engine would have had better fidelity in the environment.I downloaded the engine and the demo.
Nanite indeed works, it's very cool, and the Quixel stuff is extremely seamless. Literally just a couple clicks to open Quixel up and dump whatever to the engine - it's fantastic. The dev experience is exceptional. They really crushed it here. The asset quality is generally immaculate, both in mesh and texture detail. When you export a mesh to the engine, you can pick a couple options, from like Low, Medium, High, and Nanite. I haven't tried the others, but I'm guessing Nanite is the happy medium they came up with where it's not so utterly overdetailed that it's basically completely imperceivable (and basically wasting disk space) but still wildly above any mesh you'd use in a game prior. The mesh I imported was still well into the millions triangle wise.
I picked whatever the craziest looking mesh I could find was and threw it in the scene. It was multiple millions of triangles and drop a couple in. Instantly cleave my framerate from like 60 to 25 with just a couple of them. Couple minutes later, I figured out how to convert them to Nanite. It takes a moment to process the mesh, then bam, done. Framerate is instantly back up. So I keep adding more and more. Eventually I have like a hundred of these rock formations covering every inch of my view and framerate is still smooth and barely seems to budge at fall no matter how many I throw into the scene. It's wild. Literally individual pebbles and rocks and modeled, the detail was astoundingly high. It definitely does what it says on the tin, it's an incredible piece of tech - I've never seen anything quite like it. Nanite seems very cheap and fast from a performance point of view. So yeah, their claim that you can practically throw Nanite meshes around with near impunity seems to be pretty much true, even on older hardware like mine.
I'm not sure what they did to dynamic shadows, but it looks like Nanite plays a role in rendering them. They're EXTRMELEY sharp up close, seem to have no real issues catching even very tiny bits of detail and geometry, and filter out to a nice soft penumbra. Honestly, they're probably among the highest quality I've seen in a game. They're excellent.
Lumen is pretty heavy, but doable. Didn't screw with it much. Looks like it can accelerate certain things if you have hardware raytracing available (I don't, GTX 1080). It's definitely usable on this card. I'm sure I could dial a few things back a little and make the performance more tolerable. The quality looks very good.
The new temporal upsampling definitely works well. It's very clean when you're sitting still. Without much motion, even going to half res was good quality. As the resolution falls, you'll start seeing artifacts in motion around edges, but it resolves to a very clean image. I have a 1440p monitor, and I think I could definitely live with whatever it was pumping out at 75% screen resolution. I don't know if it's as good as DLSS since I haven't used it before, but it definitely works very well as it stands, and I'd presume will continue getting better.
This is definitely feels next gen - the entire thing is amazingly impressive.
This actually annoys me. The ease of doing things in unreal will make it more likely that more games will use it. I have not really likely the quality of games made in unreal and the unreal look is often easy to spot. But it's popular. Eg. Final fantasy remake in another engine would have had better fidelity in the environment.
Even in their demo it still looks unreal. The amount of environmental blurring in the video is insane, though maybe the slower playback speed is exacerbating it. It's also hard to focus on details in the rocks beside her for example. here
Brings up something i noticed in Final Fantasy remake. It was as if they blurred the objects in the world to hide their low quality. But in this case it might be a side effect of the feature.
It's like its all shifted/blurred. Its a step forward for unreal and if the popular but inferior engine ends up coming up to par with what things like frostbite can put on screen, good. If you can make something like spiderman remastered or anthem in unreal with the same results or better, good.
Or motion blur, as if every single LCD screen today doesn't already have plenty of it.If this, along with lens flare, isn't the most annoying and fucking STUPID "graphical effect" I've ever seen in games I don't know what is. What's the fucking OBSESSION developers have with making games look like we're viewing them through a camera lens from the 1930's???
IMO that is the real next generation, where you can have an earth size planet, go anywhere, walk into a stranger's house, cut them up in any way you wish to see their insides, then maybe mix it into your own poop and bake a cake out of it, feed it to the neighbors, etc...Remember when Euclideon came out with their Unlimited Detail voxel-based engine demos, and people pointed-out that it's only with non-animated objects and said there'd never be 'unlimited' detail? Euclideon were savaged for even claiming the concept is attainable.
Sounds a little too well thought out to be a fantasy... You sure you didn't already do this in real life?!IMO that is the real next generation, where you can have an earth size planet, go anywhere, walk into a stranger's house, cut them up in any way you wish to see their insides, then maybe mix it into your own poop and bake a cake out of it, feed it to the neighbors, etc...
BroIMO that is the real next generation, where you can have an earth size planet, go anywhere, walk into a stranger's house, cut them up in any way you wish to see their insides, then maybe mix it into your own poop and bake a cake out of it, feed it to the neighbors, etc...
IMO that is the real next generation, where you can have an earth size planet, go anywhere, walk into a stranger's house, cut them up in any way you wish to see their insides, then maybe mix it into your own poop and bake a cake out of it, feed it to the neighbors, etc...
i can't wait to die irl when i step on a claymore in COD 326 and it subsequently blows me out of my chair and splatters me across the room
then the nurse removes my neuralink and tells me it's time to take my medication
Maybe, but I didn't say what visual fidelity it should be. Procedural generation of a lot of things is certainly possible, as is voxels, they just be chunky lookin:What you are talking about though is basically impossible right now. I don't see this happening until we legit just have real life simulators that mimic every atom in an object.
Unreal Engine 5 Beginner Tutorial- UE5 Starter Course!
Yeah, I downloaded it just in case it gets removed for some reason.Don't sleep on this! This may be the biggest infodump of UE5 training that isn't behind an expensive paywall.
The amount of graphical power that anyone has access to learn and create with now is staggering. Historically you'd have to grind your way up the ladder for many years before you could dream of being able to work with a game developer's multimilliondollar, proprietary engine.
how are you downloading/saving it?
I uh … wow.