Walmart Associate Delivery Pays Employees to Deliver Packages After Shift Work Ends

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Walmart has devised a new program that allows employees to deliver packages after their shift has ended. The employees are paid extra to carry packages that are deliverable on their normal route home. This means that the employees simply have to grab the packages from the backroom, load them into their car, and head to the address on the GPS app. Since there is a Walmart store within 10 miles of 90% of the nation's population, this means that many packages can be delivered the next day. Walmart employs over one million associates at their 4,700 locations; thus there is a lot of potential manpower available for the delivery program. Just like with Uber, the employees will use their own cars for the deliveries and this gets the packages to the customers faster than ever. Lastly, the program is completely voluntary so the employees can decide how heavy a package their are willing to deliver and which days they are available to deliver packages. Seems like a win-win for the customers, employees, and Walmart corporate.

I wonder how Amazon will respond to Walmart's new delivery program other than to open more physical locations. I used to work at a Walmart while I was in college, and many of the employees weren't exactly honest. Then again if the packages are already sealed, the impulse to steal will be lessened if you don't know if a PS4 or a box of diapers are in the package. What happens if a Walmart employee gets into an accident while obviously making home deliveries? Can Walmart be sued if the associate is in the wrong or are they considered independent contractors at that point? I hope they bring the program around here as I hate going to the store.

Wal-Mart is tapping into its 4,700 U.S. stores and more than a million retail employees as it seeks to redefine itself in an age of e-commerce dominated by Amazon, which offers delivery of some products in as little as an hour in some cities. Online spending will increase by 16 percent this year -- more than four times the pace of overall retail -- to reach $462 billion, according to EMarketer Inc.

About 90 percent of the U.S. population lives within 10 miles of a Wal-Mart, and the company is using those locations as shipping hubs to compete with Amazon on the last mile of delivery -- the most expensive part of getting goods to customers. By using existing workers in their own cars, Wal-Mart could create a vast network with little upfront cost, similar to how Uber Technologies Inc. created a ride-hailing service without owning any cars.
 

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I'd hope they will only emply drivers that have a long tenure with Walmart. UPS and Fedex drivers have to work their way up the chain to be a delivery driver and that takes years. There may be a reason why UPS and Fedex do what they do with their drivers.
 

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I guess they figure if Chinese and Domino's can reach you perfectly well via Minimum Wage Express, your 36 count Tampax and 2 Party-Sized Doritos bags will probably survive as well.....
 

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With some of the people employed by Wal-Mart, I'm not sure I'd want them knowing where I live...

This would be my biggest concern. The Walmart down the street from me is actually so bad that I drive 20+ miles to the Walmart out in a wealthy suburb to do most of my shopping. I really love Walmart, but probably wouldn't use this type of option.

I would only utilize this if they guaranteed that their best and most tenured employees were doing the delivery. Basically people who have vested themselves in Walmart and are not the here today gone tomorrow type of employees who may be less trustworthy.
 

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I worked at my local Wal-Mart when I was in high school and after my experience with them, NO WAY is anyone delivering an item to my residence. I'll stick with UPS / FedEx and Amazon Prime.
 

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Yeah sorry I want someone delivering my parcels that is, in most circumstances, doing it for a career. I've known my UPS delivery person for years at this point. Same with Fedex, and USPS not too far behind. Heck my Fedex driver spotted a thief at my home and alerted me years ago.

The Walmart employee will wind up being the next thief.
 

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As a Walmart employee I just want to say that we have quite a few "voluntary" programs set up for employees that area anything but. It didn't used to be that way, but as time goes on and fewer associates actually volunteer to do these kinds of things suddenly its management stepping in and then it's voluntold.

And not to mention some of the customers we get, I can see some of the worst ones demanding someone deliver the TV or groceries they bought to their home using this program when that's not the point. No thanks.
 

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I honestly hate these new delivery services a lot of companies are doing now. Just people delivering out of their cars. I get FedEx package same day sure but these people just toss it in a random place and sign a random name. I argued with FedEx about where my delivery is and they say it was delivered and so-so signed for it. Just a random name of no one that works there.I catch them coming in sometimes but they just drop it and haul ass out of they completely ignoring me.
 

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So how are they paying them and how do they avoid paying them OT eventually
 
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This would be my biggest concern. The Walmart down the street from me is actually so bad that I drive 20+ miles to the Walmart out in a wealthy suburb to do most of my shopping. I really love Walmart, but probably wouldn't use this type of option.

I would only utilize this if they guaranteed that their best and most tenured employees were doing the delivery. Basically people who have vested themselves in Walmart and are not the here today gone tomorrow type of employees who may be less trustworthy.
If a Walmart is that close why would you get delivery anyways?
 

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call me superficial but that girl in their little ad is adorable to me. Must be my old love for that look stemming from listening to a shit ton of the Cure and Depeche Mode.
 

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Ah yes, an attractive 20-something girl from Walmart shows up in a nice seemingly new and expensive car. Yeah, that's exactly what will happen. So these people likely work entire shifts and then have to drive around for another few hours delivering packages? Makes a lot of sense.
 
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I'd hope they will only emply drivers that have a long tenure with Walmart. UPS and Fedex drivers have to work their way up the chain to be a delivery driver and that takes years. There may be a reason why UPS and Fedex do what they do with their drivers.
They're not employing extra drivers. They're paying employees to deliver packages that are at destinations between their Walmart and their home.
This would be my biggest concern. The Walmart down the street from me is actually so bad that I drive 20+ miles to the Walmart out in a wealthy suburb to do most of my shopping. I really love Walmart, but probably wouldn't use this type of option.

I would only utilize this if they guaranteed that their best and most tenured employees were doing the delivery. Basically people who have vested themselves in Walmart and are not the here today gone tomorrow type of employees who may be less trustworthy.
This isn't a program for employing drivers to deliver packages. This is paying already existing employees. None of the long term associates would probably want to do this. A lot of 10 year and 20 year associates are probably already making $20/hr and get 1.5x pay for working Sunday, and other extra pay incentives for their long terms with the company. They're not going to be as capable of lifting heavier packages(Which I believe could become the majority of the packages).

Their using a proprietary GPS app, which is required for delivering. It probably tracks time and distance and once they deliver the last package they get automatically clocked out. They probably are only allowed OT using this method and will probably be tracked as a separate time on time sheets. Walmart does pay mileage, so employees could get paid this as well.
So how are they paying them and how do they avoid paying them OT eventually
Employees could start tracking mileage from Walmart to destination and use it as a tax savings. I don't imagine that'll stop people from getting OT, but only allow OT from this form. See above quote on how I think they'll get paid.
Ah yes, an attractive 20-something girl from Walmart shows up in a nice seemingly new and expensive car. Yeah, that's exactly what will happen. So these people likely work entire shifts and then have to drive around for another few hours delivering packages? Makes a lot of sense.
They'll have to use a proprietary GPS app built by walmart and will potentially only allow deliveries to address between Walmart and their home address. I could see a lot of O/N stockers and first shift employees taking advantage of this. However, I work 2nd shift and I leave Walmart at 11PM as do like 1/4-1/3 of the entire staff. A lot of these employees would probably be ineligible for this program, who wants a package delivered at 11:30 at night. If they allowed delivery on the way back to work it might work, but then "My vehicle got broken into." I doubt they'll allow that at all.

Also, I don't imagine you'll see people drive up in nice cars. I know a lot of co-workers who drive cars with broken windows. My car is rusting on the roof. Co-workers who drive really old beat up looking cars.
 
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Walmart's site to store doesn't even work most of the time. I will get an email saying my order is ready for pickup, get there and they can't find it. Happened every time. So ya no way in hell would I use this delivery service.
 

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The big issue I see with this is UPS, FedEx, USPS, and other delivery companies have spent a lot of money to design delivery vehicles to best allow drivers to load, find the right package, get it safely out of the vehicle, and deliver it while the vehicle is parked in the street. The average Camry or Camaro wasn't designed to carry packages, many odd shaped, safely and in a way to allow the driver to extract the package without blowing their back out.

Have to wonder how many worker comp claims will be filed by already tired workers for injuries claimed to happen pulling a 40" TV out of the back of a Mustang? Or stolen car reports when they leave the keys in the running vehicle since delivering the package to the porch will "only take a few seconds"?
 

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I honestly hate these new delivery services a lot of companies are doing now. Just people delivering out of their cars. I get FedEx package same day sure but these people just toss it in a random place and sign a random name. I argued with FedEx about where my delivery is and they say it was delivered and so-so signed for it. Just a random name of no one that works there.I catch them coming in sometimes but they just drop it and haul ass out of they completely ignoring me.

I guess WalMart didn't like the idea of Uber doing ALL the exploiting in this country.
 

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The big issue I see with this is UPS, FedEx, USPS, and other delivery companies have spent a lot of money to design delivery vehicles to best allow drivers to load, find the right package, get it safely out of the vehicle, and deliver it while the vehicle is parked in the street. The average Camry or Camaro wasn't designed to carry packages, many odd shaped, safely and in a way to allow the driver to extract the package without blowing their back out.

Have to wonder how many worker comp claims will be filed by already tired workers for injuries claimed to happen pulling a 40" TV out of the back of a Mustang? Or stolen car reports when they leave the keys in the running vehicle since delivering the package to the porch will "only take a few seconds"?
Sure those trucks are designed for it but it is all for not when they are filled to the brim and shit falls out the back when the driver opens the back door. Then the driver spends the next 10 mins digging through it and never can find the last packages. Which they come back near the end of the day to drop off. FedEx and esp ups work the shit out their drivers.
 

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I think it is an idea worth trying. Its a way Walmart needs to go to compete with E-Tailers.
 

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This would be my biggest concern. The Walmart down the street from me is actually so bad that I drive 20+ miles to the Walmart out in a wealthy suburb to do most of my shopping. I really love Walmart, but probably wouldn't use this type of option.

I would only utilize this if they guaranteed that their best and most tenured employees were doing the delivery. Basically people who have vested themselves in Walmart and are not the here today gone tomorrow type of employees who may be less trustworthy.

But you'll order pizza delivered from a methhead?
 

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So how are they paying them and how do they avoid paying them OT eventually

Full time is 34 hours, so that probably won't be a problem. When I worked there in the 90s they would tell you to go home immediately the moment you came to 39 hours so I'm sure they have that figured out. The biggest problem they had back then was clocking people out without their knowledge and not pulling them but they got sued over that and lost in the mid 00s. They basically funded my original Athlon 64 rig with that unexpected check.
 

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So how are they paying them and how do they avoid paying them OT eventually
Walmart cooperates with a local temp agency, when you're driving, you're employed by the temp agency (at a fraction of the pay) and are under contract to follow orders from Walmart, now you're not technically Walmart's problem!

I'm just pulling that out of my rear, I don't know if that would legally work, but I wouldn't doubt that something shifty like that is possible.
 

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Some of you guys in this thread seem to be very uppity about the worst things that could happen in what seems like an extremely optional option. Most of us here probably orders more things from Amazon so those scary walmart employees who might "Find out our address" probably wouldn't be clicked on to deliver it anyways. Those who do get the service will probably be everyday people who aren't paranoid about suzy q and tom j from walmart seeing their home.

While I've got no love for the waltons and their shitty stores, I think it's kinda cool that Walmart, a company tradition inept at paying their workforce is allowing options for their employees to make more money. I'm sure down the line they may ruin it.

It's pretty cool to see companies try new stuff, it's what gaves us things that are better alternatives in the first place...but like some of the sentiment above there's probably gonna be a lot of growing pain like stolen stuff, broken stuff, injury claims, and all that...cause well that's people.
 

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Employees robbing customers hours after delivery, employees delivering items to their own home, orders to abandoned lots or houses so armed people can rob employee.
 

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Some of you guys in this thread seem to be very uppity about the worst things that could happen in what seems like an extremely optional option. Most of us here probably orders more things from Amazon so those scary walmart employees who might "Find out our address" probably wouldn't be clicked on to deliver it anyways. Those who do get the service will probably be everyday people who aren't paranoid about suzy q and tom j from walmart seeing their home.

While I've got no love for the waltons and their shitty stores, I think it's kinda cool that Walmart, a company tradition inept at paying their workforce is allowing options for their employees to make more money. I'm sure down the line they may ruin it.

It's pretty cool to see companies try new stuff, it's what gaves us things that are better alternatives in the first place...but like some of the sentiment above there's probably gonna be a lot of growing pain like stolen stuff, broken stuff, injury claims, and all that...cause well that's people.


It's like the idiots that post cars for sale and blur out their license plate... WTF. What are people gonna do with your license plate? If you want to steal license plates numbers, JUST LOOK OUTSIDE, IT'S NOT HARD.

People are dumb.
 

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I guess WalMart didn't like the idea of Uber doing ALL the exploiting in this country.
Oh shut up, not even close to the same thing. The only expectation for an Uber driver is to be able to drive and have a nice car. The only expectation for a WalMart employee is to be able to mop the floor and shrug your shoulders whenever a customer asks for help. One is not like the other. Tasking WalMart employees with delivers is outside of their skillset, just like tasking uber drivers to mow your lawn would be outside of theirs.

Furthemore a delivery service by walmart would be substandard compared to what people are used to, whereas a taxi service by Uber is actually an upgrade over traditional smelly taxi cabs that rip you off. WalMart delivers would be filled with nothing but issues. Uber rides are filled with nothing but compliments.
 
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Aiding their part time workers in scoping out houses for their other job of B&E. How very helpful Walmart!
 

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It's like the idiots that post cars for sale and blur out their license plate... WTF. What are people gonna do with your license plate? If you want to steal license plates numbers, JUST LOOK OUTSIDE, IT'S NOT HARD.

People are dumb.

Because you can then go online and look up the owners name and address via public records.

I'd rather only have people that actually contact me coming to look at stuff I have for sale and not have thieves casing the joint.
 

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I'd hope they will only emply drivers that have a long tenure with Walmart. UPS and Fedex drivers have to work their way up the chain to be a delivery driver and that takes years. There may be a reason why UPS and Fedex do what they do with their drivers.

I would rather they only let their best employees handle my package. I prefer a merit over tenure.
 

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I would rather they only let their best employees handle my package. I prefer a merit over tenure.

What does it matter?

UPS hires thousands of seasonal workers for the holidays, then slings packages out of vans/uhauls/whatever vehicles they can find.
 

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I would not shop at those shithole stores unless I had no other option. Pretty much a magnet for the lowest form of humans. Let alone let their employees deliver to my house in their shitty personal vehicles.
 
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Sounds like a logistical and liability nightmare

This.
If you are a Walmart employee, and they are paying you to make a delivery, then Walmart is liable.
If you get in an accident, Walmart would likely be held responsible,

I don't thing classifying a employee as a contractor while they are delivering Walmart product would fly in most states.
 
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