Core i7-5960X 5930K 5820K Overclocking & Performance @ [H]

Yarp

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Has any one use the M.2 ssd with these chips? I am running a 4.2 OC on a i7-5930k with a Asrock X99 extreme 3. I run in to problems with the M.2 causing a 124 BSOD. The system restarts and cant find the drive any more. If i clear the caps the drive shows back up and runs as if nothing happened. I have tried increasing the cache/ring voltage and the i/o voltage on some of the chips this work. But isnt working on this one. Any suggestions?
 

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4-5 is a long time. Depends how reliant games become on 6+ core systems. With dx12 and mantle the push is less cpu reliance.

Today a handful of the big games use 6+ cores, fewer use 100% of those cores.

The thing is this PC will only be used for gaming, hence why I kept my X58 platform so long because with the exception of some games I was always GPU bond. This is why I never really upgraded the CPU. Personally I would be fine with the z97 platform, if there was an option for 32+ lanes. To the defense of the 6 cores, I suspect that games will only have better multi-threaded support in the future, but you do have a point about DX12 and mantle.
 

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This threads seems dead.
Why not posting your overclock results?

I starts with mine (not that good but is the best I can do to be rock solid on every synthetics):

i7 5930K @ 4.2GHz, 125MHz Strap, 127.3MHz BLCK, 33 multiplier.
vcore offset +0.250 with Load Line Calibration to 8, up to 1.296V under prime,
CPU input voltage Auto, up to 1.92V.

RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX 2800MHz, 4x4GB @ 3050MHz, 16-18-18-36-1T, 1.35V
 

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My system:

i7 5820K @ 4.2GHz on a MSI X99S Sli Plus, offset -0.010 with 1.210 vcore under P95 v27.9. The system can't pass P95v28.5 but it seems to be stable for everything I do with it (rendering, gaming).
Ram is Crucial Ballistix sport 2400MHz CL16, running XMP profile.

I'm quite satisfied with the system since it doesn't cost a lot more than my old Z77 + i7 2600k setup but gains at least 40% more CPU raw power.
 

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i7 5820k @ 4.2ghz on Gigabyte GA-X99-UD5 WIFI. 1.275 volts 16gb of the cheap crucial DDR42133 at 2400. I am still tweaking. I know I have more reach just haven't had time.

It's a far cry from my 875k at 4.3ghz with 16gb ddr3 1600 corsair vengeance.
 

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Just got my 5820k the other day. Paired with the ASRock X99X Killer Fatal1ty motherboard and G.Skill Ripjaw 4's. Just getting started, but currently seems nice and stable at 4.3Ghz (1.3v), 3500Mhz cache (auto), Input voltage at 1.9v and ram just at XMP settings (2400Mhz). Will see if I can push memory and cache.
 
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Help me overclock please. I just tried my first x99 OC with X99S Gaming 7, i7-5930K

Currently @ 4.4GHz 1.3 vCore
Fixed Cpu Ratio
Only changed CPU Ratio to 44, XMP 1, Cpu core voltage 1.3, didn't touch anything else

Seems to be stable with XTU.
Idle on stock cpu was 29-36, load 55-60
With this over clock idle ~50, load 75-80

What can I fine tune to get stable 4.4 and lower idle temps/load temps?

Do i need to change cpu ring ratio, cpu ring voltage, Cpu input voltage, cpu ratio fixed to dynamic etc.?

How can I get better results here?
 

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Help me overclock please. I just tried my first x99 OC with X99S Gaming 7, i7-5930K

Currently @ 4.4GHz 1.3 vCore
Fixed Cpu Ratio
Only changed CPU Ratio to 44, XMP 1, Cpu core voltage 1.3, didn't touch anything else

Seems to be stable with XTU.
Idle on stock cpu was 29-36, load 55-60
With this over clock idle ~50, load 75-80

What can I fine tune to get stable 4.4 and lower idle temps/load temps?

Do i need to change cpu ring ratio, cpu ring voltage, Cpu input voltage, cpu ratio fixed to dynamic etc.?

How can I get better results here?

What's your cooling? And don't use stress tests that use AVX2
 

shadow85

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Cooling is H240-X, well I managed to lower idle temps by setting CPU RATIO to dynamic instead of fixed.

But it seems my 4.4 GHz 1.3v is still not stable, I played 1 hour of watch dogs it was fine, but when played 15 mins of Left 4 Dead 2 I got a BSOD.

I only have changed cpu core voltage to 1.3 and xmp to 1, cpu ratio to dynamic, did not touch anyhing else.

I thought with 1.3v I should be able to reach atleast 4.4GHz. Guess my chip is not that good, or maybe I need better settings in oc bios. I will try 4.3 GHz on 1.3v.

And does Intel Extreme Utility stress test use AVX2? What other free stress tests can I use then?
 

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I'm running a 5930K @ 4.2GHz (1.26 V) - stable through hours AIDA64 Stability Test and Prime95 (although high temps during blend - none over Tj. Max) - along with Battlefield 4 multiplayer. I was @ 4.3GHz and some change, but it would only pass AIDA64 Stability Test.


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I'm pretty happy with the results (got the parts for pretty cheap; used) - and hoping that as DDR4 memory tuning matures we'll perhaps get to squeeze another 200-300MHz out of our daily OCs.

Full build details here.
 

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at the end on my 5930K (all details in signature) I ended @4.3GHz @1.3V with uncore @4GHz @ 1.250V on 100 strap.

on 100 strap no way to go over 2666MHz on ram.

the OC is 100% stable, AVX2 stable.
 

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at the end on my 5930K (all details in signature) I ended @4.3GHz @1.3V with uncore @4GHz @ 1.250V on 100 strap.

on 100 strap no way to go over 2666MHz on ram.

the OC is 100% stable, AVX2 stable.

Forgive the ignorance - but how would one test their system to be "AVX2 stable"?
 

shadow85

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Forgive the ignorance - but how would one test their system to be "AVX2 stable"?

Use a stress tester that uses AVX2 such as latest Prime95 and IBT. But be warned these are suppose to fire up cpu temps like there is no tommorow. I personally don't use them for testing, I use non AVX2 stressers or just game for a while, if no BSOD it's stable for me. :p

Currently I'm using 5930K @ 4.2 GHz 1.2vCore adaptive mode. Max temps while gaming is 55C using H240-X. But using stresst testers I easily each 67C
 

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Use a stress tester that uses AVX2 such as latest Prime95 and IBT. But be warned these are suppose to fire up cpu temps like there is no tommorow. I personally don't use them for testing, I use non AVX2 stressers or just game for a while, if no BSOD it's stable for me. :p

Currently I'm using 5930K @ 4.2 GHz 1.2vCore adaptive mode. Max temps while gaming is 55C using H240-X. But using stresst testers I easily each 67C

Ah, thank you. That explains why Prime95 suddenly burns the heck out of my CPU. I haven't used it in my stability testing "kit" for sometime because I felt it was not as tough on CPUs as Intel XTU. I can't get Intel XTU to run on Win 8.1 x64 (and it appears from Google searches that I am not alone) due to dot net issues and security stuff...so I've been using some other things.
 

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Ah, thank you. That explains why Prime95 suddenly burns the heck out of my CPU. I haven't used it in my stability testing "kit" for sometime because I felt it was not as tough on CPUs as Intel XTU. I can't get Intel XTU to run on Win 8.1 x64 (and it appears from Google searches that I am not alone) due to dot net issues and security stuff...so I've been using some other things.

That's strange because I am also using Windows 8.1 x64 and have XTU working without any issues at all.
 

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That's strange because I am also using Windows 8.1 x64 and have XTU working without any issues at all.

Yeah - it works on two of my existing boxes (also Win 8.1 x64 - but installed months ago)...but the fresh install I did last week somehow disabled older versions of dot net (I believe 3.5) and I haven't been able to restore it. My guess is I'd need to reinstall Windows 8, enable the dot net version that I want, and then install the Windows 8.1 upgrade from the shop.

I think Microsoft put a rollup patch of some kind that disabled use of older dot net versions because of security vulnerabilities...and with Intel XTU only being used by a minority of the market, it hasn't really caused any kind of uproar. Just a hypothesis.
 

shadow85

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Prime95 scares me. I don't know how ppl justify putting the cpu through so much heat when in real world scenarios it is not likely to get that hot.
 

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Prime95 scares me. I don't know how ppl justify putting the cpu through so much heat when in real world scenarios it is not likely to get that hot.

It's all within the thermal limits of the CPU...and that's the point of stress testing. Although I understand your concern. You can always pay around $25 to get a lifetime warranty from Intel in case your CPU malfunctions. :)

http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/

Just the fact that they have this makes me feel pretty safe. As long as I don't pump 2v into my CPU, that is. ;)
 

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Remember that DX11 is principally single threaded. DX12 is going to do a much better job of distributing tasks to more cores. I suspect that 6-8 cores will appear significantly more desirable under DX12.
 

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Remember that DX11 is principally single threaded. DX12 is going to do a much better job of distributing tasks to more cores. I suspect that 6-8 cores will appear significantly more desirable under DX12.

I'm not here to baby my rig but the latest upgrade from sandy bridge 4 core to haswell-e six cores improved my productivity by a lot.
I manage big compressible data and haswell-e is a monster, I have the little boy, 5930K but is a really bad boy :D
 

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It's all within the thermal limits of the CPU...and that's the point of stress testing. Although I understand your concern. You can always pay around $25 to get a lifetime warranty from Intel in case your CPU malfunctions. :)

http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/

Just the fact that they have this makes me feel pretty safe. As long as I don't pump 2v into my CPU, that is. ;)

Nice!

Thanks for the link!
 

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5820K @ 4.5Ghz (4.5Ghz cache); 1.296v
2800 DDR4 CL15 w/ 100MHz BLCK

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Thanks for the review guys. After reading it and thinking about my next upgrade I'm no longer going to go with devil's canyon just because I have 16 GB of DDR3 waiting around. Instead I'm going to sell that unused memory and jump right in. Am I correct in thinking that the X99 MB (likely with proper bios update) will support the next gen CPU, as has happened with enthusiast platforms in the past? Generally I go with microATX builds, so dual GPU is the most I need. In addition, if the next gen CPU is eventually supported, I can always throw that in there right before it goes out of production (likely will opt for the 8 core if possible), that way I'll extend the life of the build.
 
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Just to keep the results coming in, my first 5820 turned out to be either damaged or just a total dog. Did 4ghz for a month barely then started degrading. Got a new one on intel tuning plan and it went straight up to 4.5, with my deluxe auto voltaging at 1.26. May experiment with reducing the voltage.
 

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So what is the maximum TDP on a 5960x when it has a heavy OC? I'm curious, I am thinking about starting to design the cooling system for my 2016 build.

Nevermind I found something relevant. I think I'll plan for 300 watts. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-5960x-haswell-e-cpu,3918-12.html

I'm late to answering this, but I've personally sent 600W+ into a 5960X when I was going for a hardcore overclock. You should plan on at least 500W if you want to play the game seriously. Make sure whatever mobo you buy has at least 8+4 pin cpu power.

Also on a tangent update, I'm going to be buying 10 5960X's to cherry pick the best of the bunch. Ideally I want to hit 5Ghz, but I'll settle for 4.8. The chip I've currently got will not do 4.7Ghz under any voltage. Just need to wait until my credit card's current billing cycle expires so I get more than 20 days to deal with the finances instead of getting slammed with interest.
 

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This thread hasn't been super active lately but figured I'd chime in.

i7-5930K @ 4.5 GHz
1.25v V-Core, 45x Multiplier
H100i Push/Pull with Corsair SP120 Quiet Edition Fans
MSI X99A XPOWER AC
Crucial Ballistix 32GB at 2400MHz
Antec HCP-1000
Corsair Air 540 Case

Ran 10 Hours on AIDA64. Peak Temp on Core 1 and 3 was 68c.
 
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This thread hasn't been super active lately but figured I'd chime in.

i7-5930K @ 4.5 GHz
1.25v V-Core, 45x Multiplier
H100i Push/Pull with Corsair SP120 Quiet Edition Fans
MSI X99A XPOWER AC
Crucial Ballistix 32GB at 2400MHz
Antec HCP-1000
Corsair Air 540 Case

Ran 10 Hours on AIDA64. Peak Temp on Core 1 and 3 was 68c.

4.5GHz on 1.25 is very hard to get it stable.
don't trust that the system will be stable :D
 

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I have my 5960x set at 4.4Ghz via the Asus Suite III software and it is stable with vcore at 1.31-1.32. Though there are tons of manual settings for the Asus Rampage Extreme V mb I have, honestly, letting the newest Suite III software setup all of the memory parameters etc for a preset 4.4Ghz OC was pretty easy. In a million years I probably would not have been able to do better.

I know there are VERY experience OCers on this forum who can drive their cpus higher BUT I'm thrilled that I can get a true 8 core/16 thread chip to run stable when the stock clock is 3 with turbo at 3.5 and I have all 8 cores at 4.4Ghz 24/7 and vcore not exceeding 1.32. The MB maual OC gamer setting for an 8 core has the vcore set at 1.35 manual. I think Asus really fine tuned it's suite III software to OC these chips. I come from the old school philosophy that manual OCing is always better so it was hard for me to accept that this software OC did a better job. It really did a nice job with my memory.

I have custom water cooling (3-480 rads , EK Supremacy EVO cpu block and 2 EK 290x gpu blocks). Since I have 2 R9 290s I'm throwing some heat into the loop. I don't have the worst or best 5960x from what I can read. 4.4Ghz is a MAX everyday OC which is stable while running ROG RealBench, Aidai64 Extreme etc. If I bump the core higher to get 4.5 or even 4.6 the heat and power output spikes.
Some people got golden chips, probably binned, but I'm thrilled that I can run 4.4 everyday. BTW I ALWAY buy the Intel Protection plan (@$35) for these OC able chips. Small price to pay to protect a $1,000 chip!
 
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4.5GHz on 1.25 is very hard to get it stable.
don't trust that the system will be stable :D

It would be extremely unusual to find a CPU that would handle 4.5GHz and be truly stable at 1.25v. The average seems to be around 1.32v. I have an engineering sample here that does 4.5GHz but requires 1.35v to do it. Many of the earlier CPUs won't even hit 4.5Ghz.

I have my 5960x set at 4.4Ghz via the Asus Suite III software and it is stable with vcore at 1.31-1.32. Though there are tons of manual settings for the Asus Rampage Extreme V mb I have, honestly, letting the newest Suite III software setup all of the memory parameters etc for a preset 4.4Ghz OC was pretty easy. In a million years I probably would not have been able to do better.

I know there are VERY experience OCers on this forum who can drive their cpus higher BUT I'm thrilled that I can get a true 8 core/16 thread chip to run stable when the stock clock is 3 with turbo at 3.5 and I have all 8 cores at 4.4Ghz 24/7 and vcore not exceeding 1.32. The MB maual OC gamer setting for an 8 core has the vcore set at 1.35 manual. I think Asus really fine tuned it's suite III software to OC these chips. I come from the old school philosophy that manual OCing is always better so it was hard for me to accept that this software OC did a better job. It really did a nice job with my memory.

I have custom water cooling (3-480 rads , EK Supremacy EVO cpu block and 2 EK 290x gpu blocks). Since I have 2 R9 290s I'm throwing some heat into the loop. I don't have the worst or best 5960x from what I can read. 4.4Ghz is a MAX everyday OC which is stable while running ROG RealBench, Aidai64 Extreme etc. If I bump the core higher to get 4.5 or even 4.6 the heat and power output spikes.
Some people got golden chips, probably binned, but I'm thrilled that I can run 4.4 everyday. BTW I ALWAY buy the Intel Protection plan (@$35) for these OC able chips. Small price to pay to protect a $1,000 chip!

AI Suite III has been pretty solid now for awhile. You really have to go through many of the BIOS settings and document their precise results and go through much trial and error to get more in some cases. Having said that the auotmatic rules in the BIOS work just as well. You really only need to adjust the CPU input voltage, vCore voltage and the CPU multiplier on these things to accomplish the same goal.
 

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I have an 4960x. Do you think an update from 4960x to 5960x is an right choice ?

all depend in what will be you doing with the chip.. gaming? nope.. in fact it could be a downgrade if you don't overclock a lot the 5960X.
 

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Hello everyone! What is your default core voltage for the 5820K? I've got one that, unfortunately, due to unforeseen event, had to return it, but it was running 1.061v at default voltage fully loaded running AID64 System Stability Test. I thought that was a very good core voltage especially when it's fully loaded. With a low default core voltage, there's potential for high overclocking, right? What do you guys think?
 

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Hello everyone! What is your default core voltage for the 5820K? I've got one that, unfortunately, due to unforeseen event, had to return it, but it was running 1.061v at default voltage fully loaded running AID64 System Stability Test. I thought that was a very good core voltage especially when it's fully loaded. With a low default core voltage, there's potential for high overclocking, right? What do you guys think?

this CPUs doesn't clock well, I have seen a lot of them and if you push that hard they need a lot of voltage.
many kids says 4.5GHz with 1.25V, don't trust them :)
 

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4.5GHz on 1.25 is very hard to get it stable.
don't trust that the system will be stable :D

Trying running prime95 27.9 and then see if its stable. I could run any benchmark at 1.25v with my 5820k @ 4.5GHz but prime95 was not stable. I had to boost the vcore to 1.28v and input to 2.0V to finally achieve stability in prime95.
 

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Trying running prime95 27.9 and then see if its stable. I could run any benchmark at 1.25v with my 5820k @ 4.5GHz but prime95 was not stable. I had to boost the vcore to 1.28v and input to 2.0V to finally achieve stability in prime95.

if prime 27.9 is not stable your system is not stable.
 
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